Please don't give up. Its not the end of the world! Everybody slips and stumbles. Even people whove been Christians for years do sometimes. Just trust God because he loves you
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It's not useless Destiny. There are people who know how you feel, you just have to reach out and ask for help. From real life people. And we have all fallen before, so don't let the remorse of that steal your hope. Please.Destiny78 said:i cant do it...so much for staying sober..it's usless..i will regret typing this in the morning. I am drunk right now so I dont care..but you all can quit wasting your time here on me..it's useless. thanks anyhow
Nobody here is going to give up on you. I will keep you in prayer as will others here.Destiny78 said:i cant do it...so much for staying sober..it's usless..i will regret typing this in the morning. I am drunk right now so I dont care..but you all can quit wasting your time here on me..it's useless. thanks anyhow
I don't have a problem with these steps. These steps keep me alive, keep me sober, and keep me healthy.debiwebi said:the twelve steps of AA
1 We admitted that we were powerless over alcohol-
that our lives had become unmanageable
2 Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves
can restore us to sanity
3 Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to
the care of God as we understood him
4 Made a searching and fearless moral inventory
of ourselves
5Admitted to God, ourselves, and to another human
being the exact nature of our wrongs
6 Were entirely ready to have Him remove all these
defects of character
7 Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings
8 Made a list of all the persons we have harmed, and
became willing to make ammends to them all
9 Made direct ammends to such people whenever possible,
except when to do so would injure them or others
10Continued to take personal inventory of ourselves and
when we were wrong promptly admitted it
11Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our
conscience contact with God as we understood Him, praying
only knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry
that out
12Having had a Spiritual awakening as a result of these steps,
we try to carry this message to other alcoholics and practice
these principles in all our affairs
Now can someone please tell me what is the problem with these steps....
About A.A.
Alcoholics Anonymous® is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for AA membership; we are self-supporting through our own contributions. AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy, neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
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"some label"? Alcoholism is a disease, not a label. Please, stop trying to counter the help the rest of the people in this thread are trying to provide. I would also, politely, suggest you find somewhere else for your anti-AA rhetoric, please.O'Factry said:Destiny78
It is not important for you to accept some label in order to improve your life. You recognize that you are better off without alcohol, and yet still have a desire to drink. That's a great start.
You probably realize that after two weeks, you feel better in all aspects. You should also be experiencing a reduction in cravings. This should give you hope and motivtion. It is a fact that cravings only last for a few minutes. Almost anyone can bear up for a few minutes.
It's largely a matter of wanting to do the right thing. In this case, it's to NOT do something. Many times finding the one right thing to do can seem impossible in a forrest of choices, but we know one thing not to choose. At any given time we have thousands of things to choose from, things to do, things to think about, things to pray about. Maybe finding the single best choice is impossible, but avoiding the few bad ones shouldn't be that difficult. In time, it will become second nature to ignore the lure of alcohol. There must be millions of products on the market that do not interest you at all, and alcohol will just be another one.
Hmmm, and by your logic, isf I were experiencing hair loss, am I to stop saying I am balding. If so, will this stop me from losing my hair? Facts are facts. If a person is an alcoholic, no amount of not saying the words "I am an alcoholic" will change that.Starcrystal said:Even if the desire is still there, we can overcome it by drawing closer to God. Its like that "New Mind" message I posted last week. Sometimes our minds transform slowley, other times right away. We pray that the desire goes away as well.
Please don't let people tell you you are an alcoholic after you've been sober. I found that one very large detriment to staying away from alcohol myself. It was a constant reminder, and who needs to be reminded of what they were when they are no longer that. I've been free from alcohol several years and am not an alcoholic. I just don't think about it, so there is little to remind me.
We really hope you continue this path and draw closer to the Lord, experiencing the joy through Christ that only he can give. Each day pray and thank God for the blessings he's given you....
I second that request. Next this guy will be complaining that we shouldn't use the word "sinner" because it's just a label, all we have to do is accept that we violate God's will for our lives.Bartimeus said:"some label"? Alcoholism is a disease, not a label. Please, stop trying to counter the help the rest of the people in this thread are trying to provide. I would also, politely, suggest you find somewhere else for your anti-AA rhetoric, please.
Destiny78 said:Hi...hmm...guess I will post something in here. I keep coming in here to see if there are any new posts on this, but not so far, so I will post. What makes someone an alcoholic? I have a friend that drinks everyday, but she only drinks maybe one or two mixed drinks. On the weekends she often gets drunk or "tipsy" though. She doesn't usually drink in the morning unless she is really stressed out, but just one or two in the evening socially. I don't know if she feels addicted or not, but where do you draw the line between a social drinker and an alcoholic? Are there different levels of alcoholism? Thanks...
What makes someone an alcoholic is the fact that they cannot control their drinking. We are not normal in that sense. It has only a little to do with escape. I had noting to escape from and still was an alcoholic. We are not bad people getting better, but sick people getting well.....kerusso said:I used to get drunk all the time. I think what makes a person an alcoholic is the fact that they find some kind of relief from issues in thier life by getting drunk. A type of escape from lifes pressures. And after dinking for reason of some sort of escape for some time it becomes a way of life. Once a person developes a way of life it's very hard to chage that habit, especialy when that habit it provoked by lifes pressures. The pressuers of life never go away so the habit is alway's in persuit of the alcoholic. I found that when I wanted to stop drinking becasue of my beliefs in Christ, their were some christains that showed me verses that they used to say it was ok to drink in a lite socail manor. so i tried that, but my conscience made me feel guilty. So I started to do a study on drinking to find out for myself about drinking and walking with Christ. It's about 18 pages long if anyone is interested in reading it you can check it out at this webpage
you need acrobat reader to veiw it. It's called "sip..sip.. and being true to your true-self." I don't know if it will help you deal with your friend at all. But I thought I would ad my two cents into this conversation. God Bless.
I'll keep your friend in my prayers. I tried to post the page but it wont let me i haven't posted enough this is my first time posting here.