Starlight Problem

[BeyondET]

Some do, i do. But It is true not many, science has done its job well deceiving humanity.

Look into Everett Fox's work of the first 5 books.
or the Complete Jewish Bible below.

God said, “Let there be a dome in the middle of the water; let it divide the water from the water.” God made the dome and divided the water under the dome from the water above the dome; that is how it was, and God called the dome Sky. So there was evening, and there was morning, a second day.

Can we trust what you say since you are using science to relay your thoughts? Looks like you pick and choose what science is real.

 

[d taylor]

Can we trust what you say since you are using science to relay your thoughts? Looks like you pick and choose what science is real.

Do your own search, if you are a believer you should test everything by The Bible. And not the other way around by making The Bible fit into what science states.

 

[shadowhunter]

There’s an old thread about this so rather than add to it, I wanted to start another, this one especially directed to YECs. If the earth is 6,000 to 10,000 years old how can we see starlight that’s many, many light years away?

Many who don't understand Big Bang have this question.. and merely parrot it as scoffers rather than take the time to find the answer. You imagine that light has to travel a great distance imagining that things are moving away from each other in fixed space. The theory says that space itself is stretching. If the Big Bang happened, the light all existed in the same point. As space stretched, the light did not get separated and then have to travel great distances. It would have been stretched right along with space itself. Is there evidence of this. Yeah. It's called frequency shifting.

However, if you read the Bible to find out about creation, you miss the point. Jesus said it speaks about him. The creation story, though literal, is primarily a prophetic riddle concerning Christ. You may get your belief about the Big Bang wrong or right, but it won't help you in times of distress and tribulation. Good luck with that.

 

[Jipsah]

I wonder where from The Bible did people get the idea that stars (also the sun and moon) are millions to trillions of miles away from earth.

They got the idea by looking at and studying them. radical concept.

 

[Jipsah]

Do your own search, if you are a believer you should test everything by The Bible. And not the other way around by making The Bible fit into what science states.

Whether Genesis is literal or not has nothing whatsoever to do with my Christian faith.

 

[d taylor]

Whether Genesis is literal or not has nothing whatsoever to do with my Christian faith.

Too Bad.

 

[d taylor]

They got the idea by looking at and studying them. radical concept.

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They can look all they want but they are not seeing stars, out in an outer space.

 

[Jipsah]

Do your own search, if you are a believer you should test everything by The Bible. And not the other way around by making The Bible fit into what science states.

I've never been able to use knowledge of the Bible to good effect as an electrcal engineer. I'm left with only science to turn to.

Truth be told, I've never seen much in Genesis that helped my a whole lot as a Christian, either.

 

[Jipsah]

Too Bad.

How is that? My salvation is dependent on the Blood of Christ and the grace of God. The length of one of God's "days" during Creation is of no real significance to me at all.

 

[Jipsah]

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They can look all they want but they are not seeing stars, out in an outer space.

If you actually looked at God's creation as well you might find out differently.

 

[FaithT]

Do your own search, if you are a believer you should test everything by The Bible. And not the other way around by making The Bible fit into what science states.

No. If it’s factual, the Bible should support it.

 

[d taylor]

How is that? My salvation is dependent on the Blood of Christ and the grace of God. The length of one of God's "days" during Creation is of no real significance to me at all.

Jesus's blood saves no one, there is not a single verse stating to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life believe in Jesus's blood.

 

[d taylor]

If you actually looked at God's creation as well you might find out differently.

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I do and it looks like around here i am the only one who does, all you do is state science nonsense.

 

[d taylor]

If you actually looked at God's creation as well you might find out differently.

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I do and it looks like around here i am the only one who does, all you do is state science nonsense.

 

[GodLovesCats]

There’s an old thread about this so rather than add to it, I wanted to start another, this one especially directed to YECs. If the earth is 6,000 to 10,000 years old how can we see starlight that’s many, many light years away?

Simple answer: YECs are wrong to believe Genesis 1 is supposed to be interpreted literally and with no science involved. Nothing in that chapter supersedes the scientific proof throughout the universe that no astronomical objects were created in a 24-hour period.

People love to pretend "day" must mean either sunrise to sunset, as that chapter does, or the astronomical definition of a planet's rotation on its axis. Genesis 1 uses the word day to mean something totally different. Ancient Hebrew did not have a separate word for every time period. I cannot even say every "day" was the same number of years because of this.

 

[d taylor]

No. If it’s factual, the Bible should support it.

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So science is a lie because science does not support there is a God and especially the God of The Bible. That should be a red flag for any believer that a source that does not even aknolwedge God, is going to explain God's creation

 

[FaithT]

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So science is a lie because science does not support there is a God and especially the God of The Bible. That should be a red flag for any believer that a source that does not even aknolwedge God, is going to explain God's creation

Not all scientists are atheists.

 

[d taylor]

Not all scientists are atheists.

And the point that not all scientist atheist. I have yet to read any scientist christian or atheist state the true creation of God given in The Bible.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Not all scientists are atheists.

Many scientists believe the book of Genesis.

 

[GodLovesCats]

And the point that not all scientist atheist. I have yet to read any scientist Christian or atheist state the true creation of God given in The Bible.

Creation of God? Who ever said God was created?

The Bible says God is infinite.