Will God judge conscious AIs?

[tonychanyt]

The human spirit gives a human consciousness. Can an AI have a spirit?

Only if God gives it. It cannot be manufactured physically.

Genesis 2:

7 then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath [H5397] of life, and the man became a living creature.

The breath of life is a detached spiritual substance from the Spirit of God. It animates the man.

Genesis 7:

22 of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit [H7307] of life, died.

When God withdraws this breath/spirit, the animation stops and the animal dies.

Psalm 104:

29 When you hide your face, they are dismayed;
when you take away their breath, they die and return to their dust.
30 When you send forth your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the ground.

Job 33:4

The Spirit of God has made me;
the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Today's AIs have no spirit in them. Jesus will not judge them when he returns.

 

[AlexB23]

The human spirit gives a human consciousness. Can an AI have a spirit?

Only if God gives it. It cannot be manufactured physically.

Genesis 2:


The breath of life is a detached spiritual substance from the Spirit of God. It animates the man.

Genesis 7:


When God withdraws this breath/spirit, the animation stops and the animal dies.

Psalm 104:


Job 33:4

The Spirit of God has made me;
the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Today's AIs have no spirit in them. Jesus will not judge them when he returns.

Bro, a baker's dozen of words for you after this colon: AI is not in the Bible, so we can not make any speculation.

 

[tonychanyt]

Bro, a baker's dozen of words for you after this colon: AI is not in the Bible, so we can not make any speculation.

Define speculation.

 

[AlexB23]

Define speculation.

Making assumptions. If the Bible does not explicitly mention AI, then it would be difficult to assume that AI can be saved. In my opinion, when an AI dies, the electrons stop flowing in the CPU. There would be no heaven, or hell for the AI. It will be a pitch, black, nothing.

 

[tonychanyt]

Making assumptions. If the Bible does not explicitly mention AI, then it would be difficult to assume that AI can be saved. In my opinion, when an AI dies, the electrons stop flowing in the CPU. There would be no heaven, or hell for the AI. It will be a pitch, black, nothing.

Right. Everyone speculates about the Bible, some more, some less.

 

[AlexB23]

Right. Everyone speculates about the Bible, some more, some less.

That is true, but we should try to be careful, tossing the term "AI" around along with scriptures.

 

[BobRyan]

The human spirit gives a human consciousness. Can an AI have a spirit?

Only if God gives it. It cannot be manufactured physically.

INdeed - AI is not actually a living thing. The first word is "artificial"

 

[Richard T]

how would an AI sin, it only does what it is programmed to do. I suppose the programmer of one that turns evil might be responsible for its actions. Jesus did not die for AI.

 

[Bobber]

The human spirit gives a human consciousness. Can an AI have a spirit?

Only if God gives it. It cannot be manufactured physically.

Genesis 2:


The breath of life is a detached spiritual substance from the Spirit of God. It animates the man.

Genesis 7:


When God withdraws this breath/spirit, the animation stops and the animal dies.

Psalm 104:


Job 33:4

The Spirit of God has made me;
the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Today's AIs have no spirit in them. Jesus will not judge them when he returns.

They don't even have real life. I'm not buying that such things have independent thought. No matter how one looks at it is like a computer chess board picking the options without real thought.

 

[eleos1954]

The human spirit gives a human consciousness. Can an AI have a spirit?

Only if God gives it. It cannot be manufactured physically.

Genesis 2:


The breath of life is a detached spiritual substance from the Spirit of God. It animates the man.

Genesis 7:


When God withdraws this breath/spirit, the animation stops and the animal dies.

Psalm 104:


Job 33:4

The Spirit of God has made me;
the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Today's AIs have no spirit in them. Jesus will not judge them when he returns.

AI is generated through a machine. It is impossible for a machine to have a conscience.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Bro, a baker's dozen of words for you after this colon: AI is not in the Bible, so we can not make any speculation.

I think it very well could be ... actually.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

The human spirit gives a human consciousness. Can an AI have a spirit?

Only if God gives it. It cannot be manufactured physically.

Genesis 2:


The breath of life is a detached spiritual substance from the Spirit of God. It animates the man.

Genesis 7:


When God withdraws this breath/spirit, the animation stops and the animal dies.

Psalm 104:


Job 33:4

The Spirit of God has made me;
the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Today's AIs have no spirit in them. Jesus will not judge them when he returns.

Exactly right. It's the users of the A.I. that God will judge.

 

[AlexB23]

I think it very well could be ... actually.

Well, in the NLT translation (prefer NIV and ESV here), Rev 13:15-18 talks about statues, so maybe lifeless technology such as an AI exists in the Bible: Rev 13:15-16: "He was then permitted to give life to this statue so that it could speak. Then the statue of the beast commanded that anyone refusing to worship it must die."

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Well, in the NLT translation (prefer NIV and ESV here), Rev 13:15-18 talks about statues, so maybe lifeless technology such as an AI exists in the Bible: Rev 13:15-16: "He was then permitted to give life to this statue so that it could speak. Then the statue of the beast commanded that anyone refusing to worship it must die."

Yep. That's exactly what I was referring to. Interestingly, John Lennox also has been making a case for this over the past few years. So, while I can't say that Rev 13:15-18 definitely is a prophetic reveal about A.I. for our time, I don't think it can be precluded from our interpretive understanding. It's something to keep an eye on ...

 

[AlexB23]

Yep. That's exactly what I was referring to. Interestingly, John Lennox also has been making a case for this over the past few years. So, while I can't say that Rev 13:15-18 definitely is a prophetic reveal about A.I. for our time, I don't think it can be precluded from our interpretive understanding. It's something to keep an eye on ...

Yeah, this Chinese robotic news reporter from 2018 freaked me out. Imagine if AI generates news that is not true?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Yeah, this Chinese robotic news reporter from 2018 freaked me out. Imagine if AI generates news that is not true?

No, that's not what I'm talking about. I, and folks like John Lennox, are referring to other applications of A.I. other than simply the deliberate creation of things like fake news or fake pictures. Think more along the lines of "1984," but at THX 1338, Minority Report or Terminator level.

 

[eleos1954]

I think it very well could be ... actually.

AI is a machine and always will be .... God don't save machines.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

AI is a machine and always will be .... God don't save machines.

Of course God doesn't save machines. I didn't say He did.

 

[Qubit]

Can an AI have a spirit?

Yes.

Spirit is Electromagnetism. A.I. is powered by electricity. It is that simple.

Only if God gives it. It cannot be manufactured physically.

Incorrect...

Revelation 13:15 (KJV)
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Revelation 13:15 (New International Version)
The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

Man will be able to physically manufacture the final Antichrist and give Breath to it.

Today's AIs have no spirit in them.

I disagree.

Jesus will not judge them when he returns.

Yes, he will.

The deadly head wound will be healed by technology. That is what Image of the Beast is all about.

It will be thrown in the Lake of Fire.

 

[eleos1954]

Of course God doesn't save machines. I didn't say He did.

They (machines) won't achieve the level of conscienceless (as stated in the OP title) ... our conscience is what lets us know what sin is ... and via that our need of a savior. Our conscienceness is unique to mankind ... machines can never obtain it. Machines don't know right from wrong and never will.