They were covered with Ice and Flordia was a lot bigger than it is now. The biggest problem from the climate change is the level of the ocean and the issue of storm surges that cause flooding.Of course they're melting (most of them). That doesn't mean much of anything if Alaska and Canada was completely covered with ice.
If 10 is the most you will give me than I put a 10 on Noah's flood being "local" from OUR perspective. The issue is does Science contradict the Bible. I do not think there is a contradiction but we do have to interpret the word "Earth" to mean the ground or the soil or red clay that God formed Adam from in Eden. All of the eco systems make up the BioSphere. Chapter three in our High School Biology book. In this state this is required reading to qualify for a High School diploma. There is a difference between a Biosphere and a Eco system in science in that the BioSphere is all of the Ecosystems or the whole earth. In the Bible the earth can mean just Eden, and Earth can also be used to mean the whole BioSphere. This is where people get into trouble when they interpret Earth to mean the whole Biosphere and not just Eden or the Land God took Adam from.Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions? The stronger your belief in a proposition, the higher the weight.
Flooding from storm surge is an issue. We see this already in New Orleans and New York City. Also the permafrost is a problem because is is starting to melt in some areas. There are people losing their homes from both of these issues. Mostly people that are native to the land. My son lived in Alaska and his girlfriend was a native Alaskan. Her father and her children lived in their village but she lived in Anchorage.Of course they're melting (most of them). That doesn't mean much of anything if Alaska and Canada was completely covered with ice.
And because the Bible does not say Noah's flood was global, the evidence is consistent with God's word. It is man's revision of God's word that calls for a global flood.Real science never contradicts the Bible. I
Again, you're putting words in God's mouth. Why not just accept His word as it is?Let's just say an asteroid or comet caused the mile-high tsunamis multiple times separated by millions of years and not connected, and that the split of the super-continent wasn't connected to this event but happened slowly over millions of years, and that it rained for a period of 2 million years nonstop.
Of course it does - it has to. It is necessary as God's Word Says So.The issue is does Science contradict the Bible.
Here a former YE creationists debunks these and other YE hoaxes:
The Confessions of a Disappointed Young-Earther
An old-earth creationist explains how he changed is mind, surveyingthe shifts in young earth arguments over the last 50 years.
The Confessions of a Disappointed Young-Earther
An old-earth creationist explains how he changed is mind, surveyingthe shifts in young earth arguments over the last 50 years.peacefulscience.org
The supposed "tissue" in a T rex fossil turned out to be nothing of the kind. Dr. Schweitzer herself debunked that hoax. There was some collagen in the shape of blood vessels. The interesting thing is that in those fossils, there was a bit of heme that survived ( which chemists point out is very possible over millions of years). When tested, the heme turned out to be most like that of birds, once again confirming that birds are the last surviving dinosaurs.
Would you like to learn about that?
Here's a site that debunks more of those hoaxes.
Common Creationist Attacks on Geology | National Center for Science Education
In the last issue of this journal, my article "The Fatal Flaws of Flood Geology" attacked the flood geology model of the Institute for Creation Research (ICR) by citing a number of geological formations the creationists can't explain without inventing hundreds of convenient ad hoc miracles.ncse.ngo
And another:
Controversial T. Rex Soft Tissue Find Finally Explained
A T. rex found with soft tissue preserved in her bones was an 'iron lady,' according to new research finding that iron kept the tissues from decaying for millennia.www.livescience.com
If you'd like anything clarified, let me know.
‘The sedimentological evidence and taphonomic interpretations presented here indicate that the bonebed 43 fossil assemblage was reworked from an, as yet, unknown upstream position and facies."
NO ONE has ever shown me where science contradicts the Bible.Of course it does - it has to.
For me, I believe that the errors are made with the interpretation of scientific evidence and the Bible.
If the Bible agrees with Science and Science agrees with the Bible, where are the errors?For me, I believe that the errors are made with the interpretation of scientific evidence and the Bible.
Attempts have been made to show the erroneous interpretations of scientific evidence and the contradictions towards the Bible. However, Theistic evolutionists don't agree with interpretations made by young earth creationists. Instead, I honestly believe that Theistic evolutionists interprete verses out of context in order to get a meaning that fits into the belief of Old earth creationism.If the Bible agrees with Science and Science agrees with the Bible, where are the errors?
No one has ever show me a contradiction between science and the Bible.
NOTICE non theists never go after the Bible. They go after people's misunderstanding of the Bible.
I wonder if God gives us atheists to point out all the errors that theists make.
Not according to chemists. But I'd be pleased to look at your numbers on iron-stabilized decay for collagen if you disagree. What do you have?Even if it is collagen, it decays too fast to be millions of years old.
Just another confirmed prediction of evolutionary theory. We know that the protein sequences of closely-related species are more similar than those that diverged earlier. While looking it up, turns out the collagen shows close relationships, too.It's ok if the heme is similar to birds.
Of course, it's much, much more similar for humans and chimps, because humans and chimps diverged from a common ancestor much more recently.We actually have genetics similar to chimps
Of course. As D'Arcy Thompson noted over a century ago, it looks as though much of the difference between chimpanzees and humans is in developmental timing. Would you like to learn how we know?but that small percent of difference makes all the difference.
Sounds interesting. Show us that. Meantime...I've seen studies where the points on fossils that are claimed to be where feathers were are actually points where tendons and other tissues were attached.
You're welcome. Enjoy.I'll use secular & evolutionist propaganda if it has evidence
Yeah, that's pretty common. The Karoo formation in South Africa, for example, is the remains of a river delta where millions of large animals were swept downstream and sank. The ankylosaur has a lot of company. Would you like to learn about that?"The 2011 ankylosaur was not found under sediment, though. Rather, this fossil was found in what was once a deep ocean — an open-pit mine in Alberta, Canada. Scientists hypothesize that the animal likely died in a river and was then carried out to sea in a flooding event. Once there, the gasses that built up in its body after death dissipated, and the ankylosaur sank to the ocean floor."
Jesus did not discuss evolution, and He did not say that the flood covered the whole world. Listen to what He says to you, not what you'd like Him to say.They do not trust Jesus.
Bishop Ussher can almost be considered the father of YEC. I have no problem with his almost 2,000 page book because it is a history of the last 6,000 years, He simply does not talk much about what happened before Adam and Eve. The second chapter of Genesis begins with Adam and Eve. That is why I can be OEC and YEC because there is very little in the Bible that they conflict over. ONLY the meaning of one word, the length of a day. Otherwise OEC and YEC are pretty much in agreement.Theistic evolutionists don't agree with interpretations made by young earth creationists.
If you trust Jesus, He may deliver you from the pit.Jesus did not discuss evolution, and He did not say that the flood covered the whole world. Listen to what He says to you, not what you'd like Him to say.