Will we be naked in heaven?

[dazed]

According to Genesis, Adam and Eve were frollicking in their birthday suits. They only covered up after they disobeyed God. Wouldn't be wearing clothes in heaven would be reminding God of the original sin?

 

[Dave-W]

We will wear clothes:

Revelation 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;

 

[Ken Rank]

According to Genesis, Adam and Eve were frollicking in their birthday suits. They only covered up after they disobeyed God. Wouldn't be wearing clothes in heaven would be reminding God of the original sin?

If our destination is heaven, a position I do not hold to by the way... I don't think you'll be naked as we understand the word. It is more likely that Adam and Eve were encased in light, sort of our aura but much much brighter. When he sinned, the light went out and he could see (many things) not the least of which was the fact that he wasn't in Speedos. It is likely if God is "restoring all things" that while we may or may not have on literal white robes (or is that metaphoric for a certain stage of existence?) that we will again be encased in light.

 

[awitch]

We will wear clothes:

It ain't heaven if we have to do laundry.

 

[Dave-W]

If our destination is heaven, a position I do not hold to by the way... I don't think you'll be naked as we understand the word. It is more likely that Adam and Eve were encased in light, sort of our aura but much much brighter. When he sinned, the light went out and he could see (many things) not the least of which was the fact that he wasn't in Speedos. It is likely if God is "restoring all things" that while we may or may not have on literal white robes (or is that metaphoric for a certain stage of existence?) that we will again be encased in light.

I remember hearing that theory from the Wesleyan Holiness Nazarene congregation I attended as a child. The Sunday school books even had drawings of it.

However, that does not square with the actual text; not in the English, and even more so not in the Hebrew. The word "naked" is also used several times in Genesis and elsewhere to mean unprotected. If there is a ball of light, that is a protection.

I chalk it up to Victorian prudery. That same mentality is shown in the preface to Song of Solomon in Benson's Commentary, published London 1860. He said that the book must be taken wholly as allegory; and to take any part of it as referring to marital intimacy was to blaspheme God.

 

[dazed]

It ain't heaven if we have to do laundry.

Amen, brother. Amen.

 

[Zoii]

Does it have to be white? Cant we pick our colour?... But really - since weve been dead n buried long ago - or even cremated - we wont be in heaven in an actual physical body. I really think its a spiritual domain

 

[Dave-W]

Does it have to be white? Cant we pick our colour?... But really - since weve been dead n buried long ago - or even cremated - we wont be in heaven in an actual physical body. I really think its a spiritual domain

Suggest you read (or watch on youtube) Derek Prince's teaching on Resurrection of the Dead. It outlines why it is important that we stand for judgement in our physical bodies.

 

[RC1970]

According to Genesis, Adam and Eve were frollicking in their birthday suits. They only covered up after they disobeyed God. Wouldn't be wearing clothes in heaven would be reminding God of the original sin?

"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away." ~ Revelation 21:4

There will be no anxiety, no jealousy, no vanity, no shame. You are not going to be concerned about what you look like. You will not have to worry about what other people think because they will think the same as you.

Everyone will be deeply concerned about your dignity, and you theirs.

You will be perfect, even as your Heavenly Father is perfect.

 

[expos4ever]

We will wear clothes:

Revelation 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;

While I do not deny that we will be clothed, I don't think this particular text makes the case. It appears strikingly obvious - to me at least - that this particular text is an image, a metaphor.

I would be quite surprised if the original author intended this statement to be taken literally.

 

[expos4ever]

Does it have to be white? Cant we pick our colour?... But really - since weve been dead n buried long ago - or even cremated - we wont be in heaven in an actual physical body. I really think its a spiritual domain

I think the Church has made a significant mistake about this. I suggest it is clear that the ultimate destiny of redeemed humankind entails having a body. So while we will indeed spend some time in heaven in some kind of disembodied state, that is really only a "waiting" period.

We end up with bodies, just like Jesus - Paul could not have been more clear about this.

 

[Papias]

I find bright lights annoying.

I don't see any feasible solution to this question. After all, if we have clothes, then will they all be the same, like uniforms or robots? If so, then what if I want to change mine - as most people will, being individuals?

But if we can change them, then might some get jealous if someone one-ups their clothes? If so, and the second person copies the first, and someone else likes that, might the first person get angry because their idea was stolen?

And what would they be made of? Cloud fluff? What does cloud fluff feel like? what if I don't like that feel?

So then we solve all that by having everyone naked. And so does everyone get their old decrepit bodies they died with, when they were 96years old? Or do we get our young bodies? But if we are all walking around with naked bodies of 20 year olds, then aren't I going to be sexually attracted to many of them, including my great grandmother?

So we solve that by having "no impure thoughts" in heaven. But isn't that mind control? What kind of "heaven" is that if we are all under mind control? What else does the mind control prevent - all other free will?

Or does this get us back to the top, where the mind control makes us like our plain uniforms and not want to add even a colorful button to them?

"I... am... happy... I..... like.... my .... clothes....I ... have...no ....impure.... thoughts...I... am... happy... I..... like.... my .... clothes....I ... have...no ....impure.... thoughts...I... am... happy... I..... like.... my .... clothes....I ... have...no ....impure.... thoughts...I... am... happy... I..... like.... my .... clothes....I ... have...no ....impure.... thoughts......"

And on and on.

Papias

 

[Dave-W]

It appears strikingly obvious - to me at least - that this particular text is an image, a metaphor.

Does that look like a metaphor? Men in white robes (called kittels) and carrying palm branches.

That is the celebration of Sukkot - the feast of Tabernacles.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I will be so happy with God and being with Him, I will not notice what I am wearing.

 

[Douglas Hendrickson]

According to Genesis, Adam and Eve were frollicking in their birthday suits. They only covered up after they disobeyed God. Wouldn't be wearing clothes in heaven would be reminding God of the original sin?

In answer to your question, I don't think we have to worry about what God might be reminded of. It is really VERY SPECULATIVE (and off base) to think God would not be always pretty mindful of how basically sinful the human race is. At that point all such would be rather "history," would it not?

I guess we all have somewhat different conceptions of what heaven might be - I personally think if we wear white gowns it will be the better parts UNDER the clothes (i.e. our basic bodies, our nakedness) that will be most important for RAPTURE.

 

[Zoii]

Suggest you read (or watch on youtube) Derek Prince's teaching on Resurrection of the Dead. It outlines why it is important that we stand for judgement in our physical bodies.

I know what your saying - I just cant accept that I'll have a physical body when its long gone to dust...and if I did well which body...the one I had before I died?... the one when I was 70..the one when I was a teen? Do you get my point?

 

[Ken Rank]

I remember hearing that theory from the Wesleyan Holiness Nazarene congregation I attended as a child. The Sunday school books even had drawings of it.

However, that does not square with the actual text; not in the English, and even more so not in the Hebrew. The word "naked" is also used several times in Genesis and elsewhere to mean unprotected. If there is a ball of light, that is a protection.

I chalk it up to Victorian prudery. That same mentality is shown in the preface to Song of Solomon in Benson's Commentary, published London 1860. He said that the book must be taken wholly as allegory; and to take any part of it as referring to marital intimacy was to blaspheme God.

It depends on what we are being protected from. Before Adam sinned, it was "as if" he was plugged into God as God was his source for everything. After he sinned, Adam had to choose between good and evil and determine a life path. It was "as if" he unplugged."

I came to this conclusion entirely independent of the Wesleyan group you mention.

 

[Ken Rank]

I know what your saying - I just cant accept that I'll have a physical body when its long gone to dust...and if I did well which body...the one I had before I died?... the one when I was 70..the one when I was a teen? Do you get my point?

If there is a restoration of all things happening.. then I think (personal opinion) that we will end up looking like we are in our prime... before we begin to decay... probably what Adam was created to look like.

 

[Dave-W]

I know what your saying - I just cant accept that I'll have a physical body when its long gone to dust...and if I did well which body...the one I had before I died?... the one when I was 70..the one when I was a teen? Do you get my point?

That unease comes from the infiltration of a greek heresy called gnosticism that was endemic in parts of the church in the early centuries. It relegates the physical body to a mere housing for the "true" person made of the mind and spirit. It is a false doctrine. All people will stand before God on Judgement day to give an account and since the body actually was involved in all we did, good or bad, it has to be there also. You are not complete without it.

As to what kind of body we have - it will be a glorified body like Jesus in Rev 1. Same materials but transformed into immortal form.

1 Cor 15.35 But someone will say, “How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?” 36 You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies; 37 and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living soul.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly.

 

[ToBeLoved]

In answer to your question, I don't think we have to worry about what God might be reminded of. It is really VERY SPECULATIVE (and off base) to think God would not be always pretty mindful of how basically sinful the human race is. At that point all such would be rather "history," would it not?

I guess we all have somewhat different conceptions of what heaven might be - I personally think if we wear white gowns it will be the better parts UNDER the clothes (i.e. our basic bodies, our nakedness) that will be most important for RAPTURE.

Let's also keep in mind that Adam & Eve until sin, did not think their birthday suits were any big deal, they only noticed a difference in each others birthday suits but God told them they were different.

So, if we don't think its' a problem, per God removing that 'sin' or the sexual feelings we associate with genitals it won't be a problem.

It is a problem because we associate sexuality to genitals. Our sinful selves.