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Why does God allow miscarriage

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Why would God allow a Christian couple to experience a miscarriage. I am aware of all the medical reasons cited for miscarriage but it seems to me that God is Master of the natural world so these things need not have been.

I fully believe that God is good and that he desire to give good things to his children. So what stops him in the case of a Christian miscarriage.

These people are not perfect but hardly the worst of sinners - we all live in his grace surely.

Does a miscarried child in some sense pay for the sins of its parents. Does God allow this to better prepare Christian couples for parenting. Does God stop a child being born because the child itself sins or because it woudl grow up into something horrible.

I believe and trust that God is in charge of this universe so there is always a reason for why something happens. Does God alwys share that reason with people who go through things like this. have people had similar situtaions to this one - how did they come to understand what happened in these situations.
 

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A miscarriage isn't a result of the parent's sins...unless the parent was doing something hazardous like drug use during pregnancy. But as far as anything else, no. The new convenant was made with Jesus. It was the last and final covenant where Jesus bared God's wrath in our place. The time of a vengeful God is over and done with.

As for why something like this would happen? I don't know, but I plan on asking the brother I never got to know when I see him in heaven.
 
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The world fell into a state of sin and death at the garden of Eden. The consequences of that fall for man from his disobedience to God's warning was and is death. We have inherited from Adam this curse of sin and death. God cannot be blamed for what man chose, but He can be praised for giving us new life which is eternal through His own sacrifice for our sins.
As long as we live in this world, death comes to all, and those little ones that go immediately back to God suffer no more, but are happy with God.
 
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You have touched on the "problem of Evil."

Pause for a moment, and ask yourself if everything really is there for a reason.

Now ask yourself-- if God is omnipotent, is there anything he could "want" in any sense of the word?

Do you see how the two concepts don't jive.

The world with all its tragedy and joy is the stage on which we learn to love ourselves and love each other. It is that unconditional love that is in question-- love that ignores the now, the horror, the joy-- and simply is.

Christ's path isn't about trying to glean "God's motivaitons" for any event.
Consider that the background on which you have an opportunity to grow, feel pain, be challenged, and love all unconditionally.

If this is not an adequate answer-- consider doing a web seach on "problem of Evil" or POE, as it has been used.
 
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Everyone dies from something or other, its a matter of what, where, and when. We could all question the reason for anyone dying but unless we trust in God doing best we are bound to start a feud with fate we all are bound to lose. I've known good people who have had miscarriages and other people who aborted perfectly fine babys.

I pray God comforts all who experience such tragedys as miscarriages and dissuades those who contemplate abortion.
 
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A miscarriage isn't a result of the parent's sins...unless the parent was doing something hazardous like drug use during pregnancy. But as far as anything else, no. The new convenant was made with Jesus. It was the last and final covenant where Jesus bared God's wrath in our place. The time of a vengeful God is over and done with.

As for why something like this would happen? I don't know, but I plan on asking the brother I never got to know when I see him in heaven.

Jesus never sinned and there is no record of any harm coming to him that he did not in some sense choose to allow to be inflicted upon himself out of love for us. I believe that the imperfection of Christians must be a contributing factor to bad things happening to them even if it is not the main reason why God allows these things.

Those who trust in the efficacy of Christs sacrifice are not spared from making the sacrifices that he made for the sake of others. These sacrifices are made out of love and freely. But when bad things happen to Christians which have nothing to do with human volition or actions then surely it is to God we go to for explanations as he is the one who allowed these things to happen. Would he need to allow these things or could he if the parents were perfect - No I do not think so. Therefore our sin is a contributory factor and a miscarriage is a punishment of sorts among other things.

That a child is saved is in the hands of God but of course one would hope that most if not all would be saved as such a young age of development as they are incapable of the volitionary conscious defiance that might bar them from heaven.
 
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raphe said:
The world fell into a state of sin and death at the garden of Eden. The consequences of that fall for man from his disobedience to God's warning was and is death. We have inherited from Adam this curse of sin and death. God cannot be blamed for what man chose, but He can be praised for giving us new life which is eternal through His own sacrifice for our sins.
As long as we live in this world, death comes to all, and those little ones that go immediately back to God suffer no more, but are happy with God.

Christians may thank God for eternal life and yet wonder at the path he chooses for them.

One can hope and trust that those who die by abortion or miscarriage may all be saved and that we meet them at the last and yet why they were not givn the chance to demonstrate their faith and Gods grace in this life.
 
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Rage4Christ said:
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You have touched on the "problem of Evil."

Pause for a moment, and ask yourself if everything really is there for a reason.

Now ask yourself-- if God is omnipotent, is there anything he could "want" in any sense of the word?

Do you see how the two concepts don't jive.

The world with all its tragedy and joy is the stage on which we learn to love ourselves and love each other. It is that unconditional love that is in question-- love that ignores the now, the horror, the joy-- and simply is.

Christ's path isn't about trying to glean "God's motivaitons" for any event.
Consider that the background on which you have an opportunity to grow, feel pain, be challenged, and love all unconditionally.

If this is not an adequate answer-- consider doing a web seach on "problem of Evil" or POE, as it has been used.

I agree that each experience should teach us to love each other and God more. I disagree that it is wrong to search for Christs motivations because in doing so I believe we improve our own. For those not content with pat answers only a real one will suffice. For some it is sufficient to know that God is sovereign and that what he allows he allows for Good. Others want more detailed answers. Even if they are not forthcoming if the search for them leads us closer to Him then the search is worthwhile.

Regarding the problem of evil this is difficult cause miscarriage does not involve any human actions or sins and in the life of a Christian I cannot believe it involves demonic activity. So who commits the evil - God cannot. So if it is not an evil act then it is something else - what is it then. God taking a child home to be with him or what?
 
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While God does allow certain situations to happen, you can't really look at it that way..To me that statement is like this...Why did Sally loose her leg after getting hit by a bus..
God is the most powerful of all, sometimes you need to experience certain things. Maybe the couple wasn't (really) ready for a child, and God forsaw that in their future. Maybe God allowed this tiny baby to form in the mama's belly to allow the women to grow.
Does that make sense, or just make sense to me?
 
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desi said:
Everyone dies from something or other, its a matter of what, where, and when. We could all question the reason for anyone dying but unless we trust in God doing best we are bound to start a feud with fate we all are bound to lose. I've known good people who have had miscarriages and other people who aborted perfectly fine babys.

I pray God comforts all who experience such tragedys as miscarriages and dissuades those who contemplate abortion.


We all die eventually true- well except Enoch and Elijah thus far - the timing is in Gods hands and I can accept that for myself while still being curious as to when and why God will take me. A person can trust and yet still ask questions - I can worship and still ask for reasons. Does a dad tell his children everything or only as much as he thinks they can handle. If a Christian cannot the handle the truth then i suppose it should be witheld from them out of love. But for those who live for and in the truth and worship Him, to know Him and to understand His ways is vital. It is part of our relationship with Him.

Gods comfort is vital in these situations.
 
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allieisme said:
While God does allow certain situations to happen, you can't really look at it that way..To me that statement is like this...Why did Sally loose her leg after getting hit by a bus..
God is the most powerful of all, sometimes you need to experience certain things. Maybe the couple wasn't (really) ready for a child, and God forsaw that in their future. Maybe God allowed this tiny baby to form in the mama's belly to allow the women to grow.
Does that make sense, or just make sense to me?

Nonetheless for someone who thought they had their eyes open to the traffic the sudden appearance of that bus is difficult to deal with.

God can teach us through good and bad- agreed- and does so - he may also teach the mother in this case and grow her as a woman - but is that the reason or a symptom of the reason why he let this bus hit her.
 
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I had a miscarriage about 2 weeks ago...
my only explaination for why I had mine was,
that maybe the fetus was awefully deformed,
my its God's way of taking the child on to heaven
so it would not suffer at birth...
I found a pasage in Job where it speaks of a miscarriage...
it can be found in JOB 3:16
AND IF YOU recently had a miscarriage let jeremiah 1:4-5 comfort you as well!
MAY GOD BLESS!
 
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Regarding the problem of evil this is difficult cause miscarriage does not involve any human actions or sins and in the life of a Christian I cannot believe it involves demonic activity. So who commits the evil - God cannot. So if it is not an evil act then it is something else - what is it then. God taking a child home to be with him or what?


I was looking at it from a different perspective. God is all powerful, therefore, he could have prevented a miscarriage, much as he could have prevented a tornado. Just as you could prevent car wrecks by driving safely. If you allow accidents to happen, is that negligence evil or something else?

I just don't think you can consistently answer this question by looking at motivations of God, because you invarialby will confront the problem of why does God allow tragedies. Then you're stuck with either God doesn't care, or God can't prevent certain things.. That gets us nowhere.

I prefer to understand it through the concept of unconditional love. The world is as it is, and any meaning we attatch to it is... meaningless... Be that trying to know the mind of God. I know that God's love is unconditional. From that I can proceed. Balance in my love for all is reflected in that.

Then again, I've struggled with skepticism most of my life-- so maybe I'm just comming at this from a unique perspective. Each of us have our own unique path in our walk with Christ. If you think trying to fathom God in relation to tragedy-- that just sounds like a painful search for answers that don't matter and can't be logically answered.
 
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kimwalker said:
I had a miscarriage about 2 weeks ago...
my only explaination for why I had mine was,
that maybe the fetus was awefully deformed,
my its God's way of taking the child on to heaven
so it would not suffer at birth...
I found a pasage in Job where it speaks of a miscarriage...
it can be found in JOB 3:16
AND IF YOU recently had a miscarriage let jeremiah 1:4-5 comfort you as well!
MAY GOD BLESS!

My heart goes out to you in your hour of need. Believe me I know what you are going through. Yet it is encouraging to me that in the middle of all that pain you can find the time to write such encouraging words.

It encourages me to think that God knew this child even before it was conceived and that he knows this child now and loves it as one of his children now and forever.
 
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Rage4Christ said:
I was looking at it from a different perspective. God is all powerful, therefore, he could have prevented a miscarriage, much as he could have prevented a tornado. Just as you could prevent car wrecks by driving safely. If you allow accidents to happen, is that negligence evil or something else?

But if God looks down the time line of a human life and considers 6 weeks old in the womb or 102 years of age the optimum time to take a person to be with Him I think I trust His judgment. In that case why would I want God to prevent something which God had intended to take place at the time it did take place. Why would I interpret it in a negative light. I know that God loves - indeed that He is Love. I know that He is wise beyond all human comparison. I also know that a child has died and gone to be with Him NOW because He is sovereign and sets the time of all of our lives and deaths. I do not dispute His judgment though I feel a loss because of it. I do not rage against him for the way in which He has used His omnipotence , nor doubt him because of it I only seek enlightenment as to why he chose the time he did. Maybe He will not grant me this grace but whether he does or not I will trust that He was right to allow what He did when he did and I do not interpret it as an act of evil.

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I just don't think you can consistently answer this question by looking at motivations of God, because you invarialby will confront the problem of why does God allow tragedies. Then you're stuck with either God doesn't care, or God can't prevent certain things.. That gets us nowhere.

No I disagree on this. Knowing that God has all the right motives means that the tragedy was for the best even though I feel pain because of it. Because He cares he acts positively to bring a child to be with Him not negatively to prevent that child being with its parents. Since I am with God for the long haul I will see that child in the same eternity to which I am predestined- so there is no paradoxical tension between Gods omnipotence and this Tragedy in this case only a question as to why He did it as He chose. Even that question fades as I discuss this and as I realise just how much I trust in Him and in judgment on this.

I prefer to understand it through the concept of unconditional love. The world is as it is, and any meaning we attatch to it is... meaningless... Be that trying to know the mind of God. I know that God's love is unconditional. From that I can proceed. Balance in my love for all is reflected in that.

Then again, I've struggled with skepticism most of my life-- so maybe I'm just comming at this from a unique perspective. Each of us have our own unique path in our walk with Christ. If you think trying to fathom God in relation to tragedy-- that just sounds like a painful search for answers that don't matter and can't be logically answered.

Maybe Gods love is the final answer to this - the experience of it and the comfort of it in the most trying of times.
 
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Very well said. Thank you. I get a real sense of where you're comming from.

I have a different perspective on the issue, but that's just my obsessive philosophical nature probably getting in the way. I think the POE is still much more complex, and I like the aspect of personal responsiblity and choice rather than implicit trust in Chirst.

But that's just me.

Ultimately I agree.. "the question fades..." What a great expression.

Thanks.
 
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