Well jinc1019, wjhat did you think of the stuff I sent you re "The Nicolaitanes Code"? I would point out that part of the code says : "Hold Ability - possessed with" "Be Able" "Take for, - tremble, uncircumcised use"
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Well jinc1019, wjhat did you think of the stuff I sent you re "The Nicolaitanes Code"? I would point out that part of the code says : "Hold Ability - possessed with" "Be Able" "Take for, - tremble, uncircumcised use"
Now one denomination I know has many good basic doctrines but does not follow a full gospel position on the spiritual gifts. It is a rather small denomination but good for other basic doctrine and that is the Plymouth Brethren. It is similar to Baptist but on bible studying steroids without the total focus on salvation but on growth after salvation through study of scripture.
There isn't even a pastor in a PB congregation but a board of elders that alternates on teaching or traveling speakers that go from congregation to congregation. It is strictly set up according to scripture in all aspects but they do hold to an interpretation that the spiritual gifts have ceased.
I would consider it a good starter congregation until you out grow it spiritually. That was my family background until my mother got cast out for getting involved with a deliverance ministry. She was accused of being charismatic before we even knew what that was. We did end up in a charismatic non-denominational church but with much needed scriptural knowledge that seems to be lacking in many charismatic churches that tend to focus mostly on the spiritual aspects but have severe deficiencies in other areas.
Get what you can from whatever denomination. They will generally all have strengths and weaknesses.
LOL. I agree we won't be judged on doctrine BUT overcoming false doctrine is one of the issues with rewards to the overcomer in the 7 letters in Rev 2&3. There is eternal reward for overcoming error. The level of error you overcome determines your eternal position within the kingdom. Some will be of low status like street sweepers living on the outer wall while others will hold positions of authority like 'ruler over nations', 'priest' or even 'king' sharing the throne room.
It is funny because the very first error to overcome is 'loss of first love'. It you don't have the love, obviously your doctrines are way off. The ability to operate in love is the very first problem presented then rooting out false doctrine within you is one of the more advanced issues that grants even greater reward to the overcomer.
So much of Christianity is still stuck in the very 1st problem presented. They are stuck in judgmental self-righteous RELIGION with a total lack of love.
Why are you a non-denominational Christian?
I don't claim any denomination - only a close relationship with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and led by the Holy Spirit and I am a God loving servant of the most high God.
You know it's kind of arrogant to call yourself a "true" Christian, because what you consider "true", other churches (Catholic, Orthodox, Episcopal, Methodist, etc.) might consider false or heresy.
Very good point. One of my biggest problems is that I seem to have a problem with every denomination! Always in the details too.
However, while it is certainly tempting to join a non-denominational church for the reasons you outlined, it somehow feels like I am "making up" my own faith or that I am joining a church that doesn't stand for anything specific. Do you know what I mean? It just feels like an excuse to get out of tough questions....I guess you could make the same argument about joining a denomination though (when one joins one and then defers to whatever they teach no matter what).
Once you are saved, you are part of God's true church, so what is the big deal about trying to emulate it here in human terms through denominations. We belong to Christ and have fellowship with others who believe in Jesus. I love a little Seventh Dad Adventist church (my wife's), but I don't belong to it or any. I already belong to Jesus in his true church. I love to spend time with others in whatever building or place that they wish to meet for the Lord. I researched for a long time about Christian History, doctrines, theologies, dogmas and others. It with prayers made me who I am, knowledgeable about my faith and able to know what I believe in. I don't care to challenge anyone of their faith, the opposite is so, I want them to explore their faith and strengthen it in prayer with God.
I have to wonder if "non-denominational" churches are actually denominations themselves. Each seems to have an specific form of theology their members must adhere to. Whether it's emerging, liberal, literalist, evangelical, charismatic, calvinist, arminian, or any other protestant ideology.
I have to wonder if "non-denominational" churches are actually denominations themselves. Each seems to have an specific form of theology their members must adhere to. Whether it's emerging, liberal, literalist, evangelical, charismatic, calvinist, arminian, or any other protestant ideology.
I don't claim any denomination - only a close relationship with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and led by the Holy Spirit and I am a God loving servant of the most high God.
I never stated that is wasn't a Christian denomination. My wife and her family were God fearing Christians. But the reformation was in breaking away from much of the corruption that had worked its way into the Roman church. Much of that corruption was the mixing of doctrines and practices of pagan origins that got mixed in from the time of Constantine when Christianity became the official Roman religion. Many pagans got swept into the church. Pagan temples got coverted to churches. For example the imagery of naked winged babies comes straight out of the pagan temples.
You won't find anyone saying 'Hail Mary ...' in most of the protestant denominations. They dropped the Mother goddess veneration of the RCC. They generally would NOT be praying to anyone other the Yeshua (Jesus) or Yah (YHVH, the Father). That is part of the corruption that the reformation did away with.
Being a Catholic doesn't make you a Christian BUT there are many Christians in the RCC. It all comes down to if the individual is just taking part in religion they were born into verses having Yeshua as their personal savior. For example the high priestess of Ashtoreth I knew was raised Catholic but was not a Christian. She just attended as a family requirement but rejected the ways of God. She even attended Catholic schools all her life but did all her praying to the 'queen of heaven' who she KNEW was a title of Ashtoreth from her biblical studies required by her Catholic schools.
Now as Catholicism spread, often they would incorporate local pagan gods in as local saints to help recruit pagan societies.
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