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Why are Christians more likely to go to prison?
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You can give an address, just type it so that it isn't recognized as a web address by the server.
It really does depend on what poll (or whatever method) gave rise to such statistics, as it's very easy to get skewed results that "look" like real facts.
It really does depend on what poll (or whatever method) gave rise to such statistics, as it's very easy to get skewed results that "look" like real facts.
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I really don't want to break the rules so I'll abstain in giving a link.
However, I will honestly say that if you google it, most likely all the websites that will come up are atheist in nature.
that's for a good reason:
There are no studies that research this in particular, you have to combine two studies.
1) national faith association study.
2) prison faith association study.
and then you compare the results. Now the people that are more likely to announce that atheists are less likely to go to prison are most definitely atheists, but you can verify by yourselves, with government numbers.
Anyhow, diner's ready. See ya around guys.
However, I will honestly say that if you google it, most likely all the websites that will come up are atheist in nature.
that's for a good reason:
There are no studies that research this in particular, you have to combine two studies.
1) national faith association study.
2) prison faith association study.
and then you compare the results. Now the people that are more likely to announce that atheists are less likely to go to prison are most definitely atheists, but you can verify by yourselves, with government numbers.
Anyhow, diner's ready. See ya around guys.
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As to your first question - I really don't know!
As to the second, however:
Matthew 22:37-39
37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
So, no!
Christianity is about Jesus, who is Love!
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An atheist on another site once posted statistics showing that atheists made up a proportionally smaller prison population than theists. I didn't bother posting, but I thought that what atheists lack in numbers, they more than make up for in quality. How many serial killers are atheist? Most of them. The rest seem to be satanists or some such.
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This might be an interesting discussion had you bothered to bring any information. Until you list some sources this thread is a joke
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Hi,
There is absolutely no hatred in Christian teaching, we are told to love our enemies and not to judge, so as i can see no hatred.
But there are some extremists (like with all religions) who arent true christians but pretend that they know the truth. These people ignore the truth - ignore the "love thy enemies" part of the bible and the "do not judge bit".
The bible warns christians of these people:
"My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the spirit, biut test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere". (1 JOHN 4:1-2).
"False prophets appeared in the past among the people, and in the same way false teachers will appear among you. They will bring in destructive, untrue doctrines" (2 PETER 2:1-2).
"Such teachings are spread by deceitful liars, whose consciences are dead, as if burnt by a hot iron. Such people teach that it is wrong to marry and to eat certain foods." (1 TIMOTHY 4:3-4)
There is absolutely no hatred in Christian teaching, we are told to love our enemies and not to judge, so as i can see no hatred.
But there are some extremists (like with all religions) who arent true christians but pretend that they know the truth. These people ignore the truth - ignore the "love thy enemies" part of the bible and the "do not judge bit".
The bible warns christians of these people:
"My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the spirit, biut test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere". (1 JOHN 4:1-2).
"False prophets appeared in the past among the people, and in the same way false teachers will appear among you. They will bring in destructive, untrue doctrines" (2 PETER 2:1-2).
"Such teachings are spread by deceitful liars, whose consciences are dead, as if burnt by a hot iron. Such people teach that it is wrong to marry and to eat certain foods." (1 TIMOTHY 4:3-4)
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Regarding being imprisoned:
Romans 7:1-25 (New International Version)
7What shall we say, then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! Indeed I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "Do not covet."[b] 8But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead. 9Once I was alive apart from law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death.
11For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good. 13Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through what was good, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.
14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
Regarding hatred:
1 John 4:20 (New International Version)
20If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
1 John 3:15 (New International Version)
15Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.
1 John 2:11 (New International Version)
11But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness; he does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded him.
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What a statement. No, christians don't preach "hatred". In fact, the God we worship is Love itself. How have you arrived at such conclusions? What are your sources?
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Unless you are willing to site something specific it's a bit hard to have a decent discussion, but supposing for a minute that you are claiming that proportionally more prisoners self identify as Christian than the general population, there are any number of factors that might need to be investigated.
Firstly, in most western countries far more people self identify as belonging to one or other Christian denomination on official forms than are ever seen in churches, and many of them have next to no knowledge of the religion they put on their form. Therefore it's moot whether they are Christian at all in any meaningful sense. If you figures are based simply on this form of self-identification then they are pretty meaningless.
Secondly, correlation is not evidence of causation. In most places and through most of history Christianity has been more common in the poor, and the uneducated, where as atheism is more common in the rich and well educated. Both these factors (wealth and education) correlate extremely strongly with the likelyhood of serving a prison term.
Firstly, in most western countries far more people self identify as belonging to one or other Christian denomination on official forms than are ever seen in churches, and many of them have next to no knowledge of the religion they put on their form. Therefore it's moot whether they are Christian at all in any meaningful sense. If you figures are based simply on this form of self-identification then they are pretty meaningless.
Secondly, correlation is not evidence of causation. In most places and through most of history Christianity has been more common in the poor, and the uneducated, where as atheism is more common in the rich and well educated. Both these factors (wealth and education) correlate extremely strongly with the likelyhood of serving a prison term.
No.
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