Who is Jesus? The Identity of Jesus Father (Marduk / Yahweh)

[AlephBet]

We are told that if we seek, we will find. My trouble, as a believer, is the fact that all roads lead to perceived deception. My primary concern is that Yahweh sheds blood, desires to be worshiped and acts very arrogant. Compared with the words of Jesus, we have trouble if we do not fully investigate this matter. They cannot be one in the same God. Something is not right here.

1) Luke 2:25 - 25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was on him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Messiah.

2) Luke 2:49 “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”

Note that Jesus is the Lord's Messiah. We get this from Isaiah 53 as well. Jesus Father is Yahweh, the Lord occupying the temple.

Of course, Zechariah is the topic of the first few chapters of Luke. We then return to Zechariah 3, where we meet Joshua / Yeshua be prepared by Yahweh as the branch / messiah taking away the sins of the people of Israel. Note that Yahweh Silences the Satan he had made, puts a new robe and turban on Joshua, then tells them this foreshadows things to come. Joshua then prepares the foundation of the 2nd temple. 430 years later, we meet the High Priest Jesus / Yeshua / Joshua as the Messiah of Yahweh, teaching in the Lord's House as a human.

All Christians state that Yahweh is God based on his words in the Old Testament. Jesus is clearly stated as the Messiah of the Lord, in the Lord's house, which is revealed here as the house of Jesus Father.

To recap so far, Yahweh is the Father of Jesus. Jesus speaks only the words of his Father Yahweh. Yahweh made Satan in Genesis 3, which must be seen by light of the enemy presented in the Bible. Jesus then fights against the same Satan Yahweh made, being tempted by the accuser in the desert.

Jesus is called the Son of God. We see here, according to Luke, that Yahweh is Jesus Father. Here is my problem with this. I do not believe Yahweh can be God. Elohim from Genesis 1 fits the description of God, creating from nothing (Bara). Yahweh forms, plants and makes in Genesis 2. He never creates. We then have these words of Elohim in Genesis 9:

6 Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans his blood will be shed,
because in his image, Elohim made humans.

HIS (JESUS) blood was shed on the cross by human hands. Jesus is the messiah of Yahweh according to Luke. Yahweh is the Father of Jesus according to Luke. Jesus says this about the Father of Israel:

John 8:44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language (HEBREW), for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Do you see the problem here?

Yahweh is the father of Jesus. I am assuming you know scripture enough to know that Israel is called the Son of Yahweh.

Exodus 4

‘This is what Yahweh says: Israel is my firstborn son. 23 I told you to let my son go so that he may worship me. But you refused to let him go. So now I’m going to kill your firstborn son.’”

Clearly, Yahweh is the Father of Israel. Jesus is called the first born Son of God. Jesus says the leaders of the temple of Israel come form the Devil, the same Devil who was made by Yahweh in Genesis 3 to be cunning (Arum) against a naked (Arummim) mankind.

To further complicate this matter, the Abaddon that rules the abyss in the book of Revelation holds the name Ab (Father) of Adon (Son of God). Abaddon is Apollo, the Son of Zeus. Again, these are all connections to who the Lord of the Old Testament really is. Names identify him from every region he rules. Abbadon is also called Apollyon the destroyer in the book of Revelation. Who do we know as the destroyer of nations in the Old Testament?

To further complicate this, King Cyrus was called the Messiah (anointed one) of Yahweh in Isaiah 45:

"This is what the LORD says to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armor, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shut:

Who does the Babylonian Clay Cylinder Seal of Cyrus give credit to as the God of Cyrus?

Marduk.

TRANSLATION

Quote form the Translation: "He made the land of Guti and all the Median troops prostrate themselves at his feet, while he shepherded in justice and righteousness the black-headed people whom he had put under his care. Marduk, the great lord, who nurtures his people, saw with pleasure his fine deeds and true heart, and ordered that he should go to Babylon. He had him take the road to Tintir (Babylon), and, like a friend and companion, he walked at his side."

Why do I say that the identity of Jesus Father is Marduk? The oldest artifacts we have, dating to the sky gods of the Sumerians, fits the description of the fallen watchers of Enoch. The Cyrus Cylinder Seal is tangible evidence. The nature of Marduk by comparison to Yahweh is evidence. The Sumerian Cuneiform scriptures are tangible evidence. We know who Marduk is in relation to the other Sumerian gods that existed from the beginning of civilization. ALL revelation we have has come from Angels saying they are from God.

To know more about Marduk, see this Scripture: ENUMA ELISH

Who is the Son of Marduk?

WIKI: Nabu (in Biblical Hebrew Nebo נב&#1493 is the Assyrian and Babylonian god of wisdom and writing, worshipped by Babylonians as the son of Marduk and his consort, Sarpanitum, and as the grandson of Ea. Nabu's consort was Tashmetum.

Who is the Son of God? The WORD. Who is the Father of the Son?

Aleph Bet (Letters).

Good luck figuring it out by seeking the answer. The more you look, the more this story points to deception of the nations by Angels. Does this mean I doubt Christ? My speculation into this subject does not determine the truth. The truth will come for all of us when the Son of God returns to demonstrate his peacemaking and love for enemies. He must fulfill his own words. All eyes will see this directly. Faith will become fact.

From my point of view, we are all deceived by the one that made Satan in Genesis 3; the one that delivered revelation to us by the hands of his angels and the one that claims to be our savior, saving us from the Satan that he made. What is the truth? We have yet to see for ourselves. The heart is what matters and nothing more.

To once again recap this babeled mess: Yahweh said his firstborn Son is Israel. Jesus called the father of Israel the Devil. Luke called Yahweh the Father of Jesus. Luke stated that the Lord's (Yahweh's) messiah is Jesus, his Son. Abaddon is the Father (AB) of Adon, who is the son of Zeus (Apollo). Cyrus was called the anointed one of Yahweh. Cyrus gives credit to his LORD Marduk. We know Marduk's story.

Paul says the Son of God is ALL rulers, authorities and powers in one. All things are in and through the Son of God, who's Father is Yahweh, who made Satan to deceive mankind.

Genesis 3

1 The snake was more clever (ARUM) than all the wild animals Yahweh Elohim had made.

Genesis 2

25 The man and his wife were both naked (ARUMMIM), but they weren’t ashamed of it.

One thing about it: You've got to be clever to figure it out. It's a good thing you can't. Deception holds us harmless as naked children being harmed by those who know better. Hell is prepared for those who deceive.

 

[followingtruth]

I have recently begun researching the "Marduk link" I have read both Enuma Elish, The Sumerian List of Kings tablet and the Epic of Gilgamesh translations and have wound up with more questions than answers. There does seem to be a remarkable correlation between the history given on these tablets and the Old Testament book of Genesis. The more I read the more I feel there are many things the folks who canonized the bible way back at Carthage in 397 omitted. If there has been a deception I believe it was theirs rather than god's or angels, men being fallible and driven by their own intentions and ambitions. If it is true that the Enuma Elish and the book of Genesis both speak of the same God or Gods (let "us" create them in "our" image) it would seem to me that the truth was meant to be told, since it was laid out, centuries earlier than the Genesis account, in the Enuma Elish, and no deception was intended by our ancient ancestors. If there is a deception I theorize it was set in place by the Church Councils at Carthage and the Synod of Hippo Regius (Canon of Trent), i.e. The Catholic Church. I do agree with you that it all does seem to be a "babeled mess"

I am currently reading The Book of Enoch, as well as other "books" which were left out of both the new and old testaments, in an effort to make sense of it all. I have also considered learning biblical Hebrew to enable myself to read the Old Testament in its original format rather than a translation, driven again by my belief in men being "fallible and driven by their own intentions and ambitions". The implications of this could be religion shattering for Catholicisim and Protestantism. The questions you raise as to the parentage of Jesus are ones I hadn't yet considered and will have to research further. It is disturbing to think that Christians may have it backwards as to the identities of The Creator and The Enemy. A great deal of food for thought. Thank you for your article, it was enlightening to say the least.

 

[Tony C]

On my way to discovering that the one we call Lucifer is actually a female, I also learned that she is Tiamat from the Enuma Elish and I THEORIZE that Apsu is Jesus Christ (the Word). As for Marduk, he is without a doubt Ba'al, Bel, Zeus, Appolyon, and so on. This is what all christians who read the Enuma Elish need to understand, in my opinion; it is the creation story as told by the fallen angels who lost the war in heaven. There are TWO main angels behind all of those stories and those angels are the same as Ba'al and Ashtoreth. Go down the list, from Ea to Nergal, and they are ALL just different personas of BA'AL. The same applies on the female side. Every female "goddess" is actually ASHTORETH, aka Lucifer.

They tell the stories of creation and the flood from their perspective, which is the losing side. It's claimed that Marduk defeated Tiamat (the Dragon Queen) but the book of Revelation tells us that it was Michael the archangel. So if you believe the bible that means, the Enuma Elish is a lie told by the losing side. The truth is that both Marduk and Tiamat were defeated by Michael the archangel and they were cast down to the earth, and the first thing they did was concoct a different version of how the war went.

Another thing is, I'm not convinced that "Yahweh" is actually God's name. Asherah, who is also Ashtoreth, is called "the wife of Yahweh" and "she who treads on the sea." Ashtoreth is known to be the consort of Ba'al, so if Asherah is the consort of "Yahweh," what does that hint at? That hints at that name "Yahweh" belonging to Marduk. BUT that does not mean that it wasn't really the God of Abraham who is actually at work. His real name was probably just switched out by worshipers of Ba'al. I can only think of one place in the bible where God told us his name and he said it is "I AM," or "Ahayah" in Hebrew. That's the name I prefer to use. I don't get the love of the tetragramaton (YHWH), when God clearly gave us his name in Exodus 3:14-15.

"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations."

Here's a video I did if you don't mind taking a look. It's kinda old so some of my current understanding has advanced beyond what you'll see in it.

 

[Look Up]

AlephBet, I'm not sure how to take your OP. For one thing your opening words "Something is not right here" seems to imply a request for or to intend provocation of counter proposal or clarification and you end with your own conclusions, some of which appear to suggest you are somewhat uncertain about some of those conclusions. Yet your use of the evidence is so selective, reliance on speculation and personal opinion so favored over against ancient Christian creeds or even the Scripture passages you cite (let alone others), that your OP seems more designed to be an airing of opinion without interest in affirming or refuting response. What seems difficult also than is that the OP is placed on a forum (or sub-forum) that is for "Christians only" albeit also a forum for controversial theology. That the OP is controversial is arguable--virtually every line of it and in many ways--but in what sense it falls under the rubric of Christian (historically? confessionally?) I'm hard pressed to understand.

 

[jenny1972]

well noone knows Jesus better than Jesus Himself fortunately Jesus Himself answered this question and explained many times what and who he was and was not and never deviated from it ..........

Matthew chapter 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, "Whom do men say that I the son of man am?" 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets

Jhn 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me

Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Jhn 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

John 20:16-18 : 16 Jesus saith unto her,Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the LORD, and that he had spoken these things unto her.

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. (John 14:28)

Paul is the one who inserted the idea that Jesus was God incarnate it did not come from Jesus who always made a clear distinction between Himself and God and regularly prayed to God. Both 'the son of God' and the term 'Christ' do NOT mean God. They never have, and never will. The term Christ means Messiah, the definition of Messiah is not God, and the Jews who were awaiting their Messiah did not believe the Messiah would be God and in fact is why they were so angry with Pauls rumor that Jesus was God and what caused Jesus to eventually be killed . The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father. Paul + Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes.

 

[Wgw]

There are several errors here including Marcionitism in the OP, and a disturbing occult morbidity in no. 2 and 3. I will be addressing these shortly from my laptop, but first I am going to watch a film.

However, as a sort of verbal appertif, I will mention that the Ethiopian Orthodox regard 1 Enoch as canonical, and this point is uncontroversial among Orthodox Christians in general given that St. Jude in his epistle appears to quote it.

 

[Der Alte]

There are several errors here including Marcionitism in the OP, and a disturbing occult morbidity in no. 2 and 3. I will be addressing these shortly from my laptop, but first I am going to watch a film.

However, as a sort of verbal appertif, I will mention that the Ethiopian Orthodox regard 1 Enoch as canonical, and this point is uncontroversial among Orthodox Christians in general given that St. Jude in his epistle appears to quote it.

That Jude quoted from Enoch does not canonize it. We have no way of knowing if any writing purporting to be Enoch, today, is the same writing that Jude quoted from. Paul quoted from Greek poets and philosophers 5 times. That certainly did not canonize all the writings of those poets and philosophers. There can be a grain of truth in many nonscriptural writings.

 

[Der Alte]

... Paul is the one who inserted the idea that Jesus was God incarnate it did not come from Jesus who always made a clear distinction between Himself and God and regularly prayed to God.

Jesus was accused of making Himself God long before Paul's Damascus road experience.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

NET Joh 1:18 No one has ever seen God. The only one, himself God, who is in closest fellowship with the Father, has made God known.

Joh 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. [John speaking]

Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. [Jews speaking]
...
Joh 12:35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
...
Joh 12:37 But though he [Jesus vs. 33] had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:
Joh 12:38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? [Isa 53:1]
Joh 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
Joh 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. [Isa 6:10]
Joh 12:41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, [Isa 6:1] and spake of him. [Jesus vs. 33]

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. ​

Both 'the son of God' and the term 'Christ' do NOT mean God. They never have, and never will. The term Christ means Messiah, the definition of Messiah is not God, and the Jews who were awaiting their Messiah did not believe the Messiah would be God and in fact is why they were so angry with Pauls rumor that Jesus was God and what caused Jesus to eventually be killed .

Nobody has ever argued that "Son of God" and "Christ' means God. But the Jews believed that when Jesus called Himself the "Son of God." He was claiming to be God.

The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father. Paul + Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes.

Mostly irrelevant because neither Paul nor pagans are responsible for Jesus being called God.

 

[jenny1972]

we can only speculate i guess about which man came up with the idea first but Jesus clearly made a distinction between himself and God and Jesus had the closest relationship with God and i would thing Jesus would know if He was God or not .

The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father. Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. pagan beliefs can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. all religions are an evolving combination of beliefs dont forget that human beings create religions and humanity is flawed .

 

[Der Alte]

we can only speculate i guess about which man came up with the idea first but Jesus clearly made a distinction between himself and God and Jesus had the closest relationship with God and i would thing Jesus would know if He was God or not .

The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father. Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. pagan beliefs can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. all religions are an evolving combination of beliefs dont forget that human beings create religions and humanity is flawed .

No, we don't have to guess, it is clear from the scripture I posted. You simply ignored my post and repeated your argument. I wonder if God knew what He was talking about when He called Jesus His beloved son.

 

[Job8]

Something is not right here.

That's for sure, and the problem is not with the Bible. If you are serious about knowing who Jesus is and who the Father is, then the first thing that is necessary is to forget about Marduk and Enuma Elish, and focus on the Bible itself. As to the rest of your ramblings, they will all disappear once you clearly understand who Jesus is from the written Word of God, since He Himself is the Word of God.

 

[Job8]

we can only speculate i guess about which man came up with the idea first but Jesus clearly made a distinction between himself and God and Jesus had the closest relationship with God and i would thing Jesus would know if He was God or not.

What makes you think that Jesus did not know that He was (and is) God? When He said "Before Abraham was, I AM" that was a clear and unequivocal declaration that He is God. When He said that the one who had seen Him had seen the Father, that too was a clear declaration of His Deity. When He said that He was in the Father, and the Father was in Him, that was another declaration of His Deity.

How is it that people who should know better (calling themselves "Christians") do not believe that JESUS IS GOD? There are a multitude of Scriptures and passages which make this crystal clear. In Jesus YAHWEH = YAHSHUA.

 

[Der Alte]

That's for sure, and the problem is not with the Bible. If you are serious about knowing who Jesus is and who the Father is, then the first thing that is necessary is to forget about Marduk and Enuma Elish, and focus on the Bible itself. As to the rest of your ramblings, they will all disappear once you clearly understand who Jesus is from the written Word of God, since He Himself is the Word of God.

What he said

 

[jenny1972]

No we don't have to guess it is clear from the scripture I posted. You simply ignored my posted and repeated your argument. I wonder if God knew what He was talking about when He called Jesus His beloved son.

which scripture made it clear ? regardless of what the jews accused Jesus of saying , Jesus was never recorded in the synoptic gospels of claiming He was God those and those were eyewitness accounts not accusations by people who had an axe to grind against Him.

 

[jenny1972]

What makes you think that Jesus did not know that He was (and is) God? When He said "Before Abraham was, I AM" that was a clear and unequivocal declaration that He is God. When He said that the one who had seen Him had seen the Father, that too was a clear declaration of His Deity. When He said that He was in the Father, and the Father was in Him, that was another declaration of His Deity.

How is it that people who should know better (calling themselves "Christians") do not believe that JESUS IS GOD? There are a multitude of Scriptures and passages which make this crystal clear. In Jesus YAHWEH = YAHSHUA.

Jesus never said that before Abraham existed He existed and that He was " I AM " . Jesus said that " before Abraham was , I AM " aka before Abraham existed God existed.

 

[Der Alte]

which scripture made it clear ? John was not God right ?

You seem to have forgotten what you said in the post I was responding to. Here it is again, "We can only speculate I guess about which man [Paul or John] came up with the idea first, "

 

[Der Alte]

Jesus never said that before Abraham existed He existed and that He was " I AM " . Jesus said that " before Abraham was , I AM " aka before Abraham existed God existed.

So why did the Jews pick up stones and attempt to stone Jesus in the temple desecrating the most sacred place in Jewish history and violating about 15 laws at the same time? If all Jesus was saying was something they already knew?

 

[jenny1972]

You seem to have forgotten what you said in the post I was responding to. Here it is again, "We can only speculate I guess about which man [Paul or John] came up with the idea first, "

right one of these men Paul or John came up with the idea that Jesus was God incarnate it didnt come from Jesus as my first post shows Jesus made a clear distinction between Himself and God . He saw Himself as a servant of God and had a relationship with God , prayed to God and told others " my Father as He is your Father ... my God as He is your God "

 

[Der Alte]

and regardless of what the jews accused Jesus of saying , Jesus was never recorded in the synoptic gospels of claiming He was God those and those were eyewitness accounts not accusations by people who had an axe to grind against Him.

What would have happened if Jesus had openly said "I am God?" What happened when He only said "I am the Son of God?" Here let me refresh your memory.

Mar 14:61-64
(61) But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
(62) And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
(63) Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
(64) Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.​

 

[jenny1972]

So why did the Jews pick up stones and attempt to stone Jesus in the temple desecrating the most sacred place in Jewish history and violating about 15 laws at the same time? If all Jesus was saying was something they already knew?

the jews who were questioning him what was their intention of questioning him ? what was their attitude toward Jesus were their intentions good or were they scrutinizing his words for anything that could be taken for blasphemy ? they were questioning Jesus for a reason (and if jews were expecting a God - Messiah why would they see that as blasphemy anyways?)