What it is the meaning of Hebrews 10:25?

[carolina16]

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not stop assembling, as some of us do, but let us encourage one another, and with greater reason now that we see that day is approaching.
The Lord made it very clear that when he comes nobody will know, he will come as a thief in the night.
1) So, in the previous verse when it says "now that we see that day is approaching" what day does it refer to?

2) Today there is the digital church, you can help with verses in social networks, forums for people who need it. This forum is a big example. And for training, on Youtube it is full of preaching. So, the church as a physicist is no longer obligatory for the believer?. (i dont mean innecesary). Satisfice the need of social relationships.
If a believer helps people virtually instead of telling them the same thing in person, and instead of going physically, listen to the Sunday preaching on YouTube, is not it the same?

 

[Northbrook]

I think "That day" = Judgment Day. I think this because in Latin, there is a very famous phrase, "Dies Irae, Dies Illa," which means "That Day, Day of Wrath."

 

[JIMINZ]

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not stop assembling, as some of us do, but let us encourage one another, and with greater reason now that we see that day is approaching.
The Lord made it very clear that when he comes nobody will know, he will come as a thief in the night.
1) So, in the previous verse when it says "now that we see that day is approaching" what day does it refer to?

2) Today there is the digital church, you can help with verses in social networks, forums for people who need it. This forum is a big example. And for training, on Youtube it is full of preaching. So, the church as a physicist is no longer obligatory for the believer?. (i dont mean innecesary). Satisfice the need of social relationships.
If a believer helps people virtually instead of telling them the same thing in person, and instead of going physically, listen to the Sunday preaching on YouTube, is not it the same?

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The Lord did make it very clear, but He also said "You know the times and the seasons" it will be the same with My coming, you should be able to understand, by the things happening, that My return is close, even at the door.

True, they didn't know the exact minute, but they knew the approximate time to begin looking.

The People, (Nation) of Israel stopped looking and He would come upon them as a thief in the night, they went to sleep in the last hour, but the Christians were being warned to keep watching.

The Nation of Israel were the Six foolish Virgins, the Christians were the Six Wise Virgins.

 

[AnnaDeborah]

No, it's not the same. If you physically meet, you are accountable to each other and can support each other in a way you can't in the digital world. For example, I can come on here and as long as I am careful what I write, I could come across as really spiritual! But it is much harder to hide wrong from people I see face to face. It's much easier in real life to know how someone is doing spiritually, so you can give each other the support, encouragement, rebuke, advice, comfort...whatever they need.

 

[JohnC2]

Read Numbers 9 to put a little more perspective on the idea that underpins this...

The people often had no idea of when The Glory of The Lord was planning to come or go..... it could be a day, a week, a month, or a year....

The Lord didn’t always give them notice - So they appointed sentries to watch The Glory and then alert the camp...

The sentry’s Job was to sound the alarm whenever The Glory of The Lord took up and left (look at Ezekiel 3).

The people’s responsibility at that point was to respond to the sentry, notify the others, and to maintain a readiness to pack up and go at any moment....

Assembling and being part of the community is absolutely critical to this whole dynamic. How will you know the sentry is sounding the alarm if you aren’t part of the assembly? How will you recognize the specific “Time to go” alarm if you aren’t part of the community? How will you know what to do if you don’t participate in the preparation? How will you even know if something is going on or not?

 

[JIMINZ]

No, it's not the same. If you physically meet, you are accountable to each other and can support each other in a way you can't in the digital world. For example, I can come on here and as long as I am careful what I write, I could come across as really spiritual! But it is much harder to hide wrong from people I see face to face. It's much easier in real life to know how someone is doing spiritually, so you can give each other the support, encouragement, rebuke, advice, comfort...whatever they need.

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So then, what your saying is, just because a person you are talking to face to face is in a bad Spiritual place at that moment, it is impossible for him to have something of value for you to hear because, you see him physically and judge him to be unworthy.

But if you were talking to that same person online in a Forum, you could possibly receive some advice for him because, you were unable to Judge him?

Does a person cease to be Spiritual and not worthy to listen to if at any given moment in their lives they are in a bad place Spiritually, does their ability to understand a situation and give Spiritual knowledge on a matter, stop until they begin living Spiritually again?

 

[Soyeong]

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not stop assembling, as some of us do, but let us encourage one another, and with greater reason now that we see that day is approaching.
The Lord made it very clear that when he comes nobody will know, he will come as a thief in the night.
1) So, in the previous verse when it says "now that we see that day is approaching" what day does it refer to?

2) Today there is the digital church, you can help with verses in social networks, forums for people who need it. This forum is a big example. And for training, on Youtube it is full of preaching. So, the church as a physicist is no longer obligatory for the believer?. (i dont mean innecesary). Satisfice the need of social relationships.
If a believer helps people virtually instead of telling them the same thing in person, and instead of going physically, listen to the Sunday preaching on YouTube, is not it the same?

The Law was given to a nation of people, not to individuals. Next to being about how to love God it is about how to love our neighbor, so much of the instructions in the Bible are in regard to how we should act as a community of believers. Our spiritual gifts are not given to us for our own good, but for the good of others, so isolating ourselves will only hinder our spiritual growth. We need to go to church in order to show our love for God and for our neighbor. If someone has trouble getting along with others, then that it all the more reason to go to church because if we can't learn to love our brothers and sisters in Christ who are difficult to love, then we are never going to learn how to love our enemies. If someone is not located near a church or is physically disabled, then online participation is certainly better than nothing, but it is not the ideal.

In regard to the day approaching, we should always be prepared for it regardless of when it comes. Evil will always look like evil, so we will always be able to look at the world around us and see things that are talked about in Revelation, so it is less about when it will happen and more about being prepared for it to happen.

 

[JIMINZ]

Read Numbers 9 to put a little more perspective on the idea that underpins this...

The people often had no idea of when The Glory of The Lord was planning to come or go..... it could be a day, a week, a month, or a year....

The Lord didn’t always give them notice - So they appointed sentries to watch The Glory and then alert the camp...

The sentry’s Job was to sound the alarm whenever The Glory of The Lord took up and left (look at Ezekiel 3).

The people’s responsibility at that point was to respond to the sentry, notify the others, and to maintain a readiness to pack up and go at any moment....

Assembling and being part of the community is absolutely critical to this whole dynamic. How will you know the sentry is sounding the alarm if you aren’t part of the assembly? How will you recognize the specific “Time to go” alarm if you aren’t part of the community? How will you know what to do if you don’t participate in the preparation? How will you even know if something is going on or not?

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But as we have seen, the sentries are self appointed and are now continually sounding the alarm.

Which is the one to listen to, The Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Charismatic, or the Non Denominational?

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not stop assembling, as some of us do, but let us encourage one another, and with greater reason now that we see that day is approaching.
The Lord made it very clear that when he comes nobody will know, he will come as a thief in the night.
1) So, in the previous verse when it says "now that we see that day is approaching" what day does it refer to?

2) Today there is the digital church, you can help with verses in social networks, forums for people who need it. This forum is a big example. And for training, on Youtube it is full of preaching. So, the church as a physicist is no longer obligatory for the believer?. (i dont mean innecesary). Satisfice the need of social relationships.
If a believer helps people virtually instead of telling them the same thing in person, and instead of going physically, listen to the Sunday preaching on YouTube, is not it the same?

hi it is a similar thing but not the same like vitamins verses food why eat anything if you have all your vitimins in a pill. If you look at being gathered together there is something to corporate worship that is not the same as singing to your ipod. The heavenly realm we will be gathered and the promise is where two or more are gathered in Jesus name He will be in the midst. Jesus being God is always everywhere but he notes that something is different when we are gathered in his name.

 

[AnnaDeborah]

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So then, what your saying is, just because a person you are talking to face to face is in a bad Spiritual place at that moment, it is impossible for him to have something of value for you to hear because, you see him physically and judge him to be unworthy.

But if you were talking to that same person online in a Forum, you could possibly receive some advice for him because, you were unable to Judge him?

Does a person cease to be Spiritual and not worthy to listen to if at any given moment in their lives they are in a bad place Spiritually, does their ability to understand a situation and give Spiritual knowledge on a matter, stop until they begin living Spiritually again?

I'm not sure where you got 'judging' and 'unworthy' from in my post. I said

If you physically meet, you are accountable to each other and can support each other in a way you can't in the digital world.

Supporting each other is not judging each other.

I can come on here and as long as I am careful what I write, I could come across as really spiritual! But it is much harder to hide wrong from people I see face to face.

Notice 'I' - I value this forum, but I'm aware no one here really knows what I am like. It's the friends I see face to face whom I trust to tell me how I'm really doing.

It's much easier in real life to know how someone is doing spiritually, so you can give each other the support, encouragement, rebuke, advice, comfort...whatever they need.

My true friends whom I see face to face can and have given me all of these things, and I value them all, including the rebukes. I don't know if you thought 'rebuke' would only be given to someone viewed as unworthy or whom one judges? Proverbs 27v6 says that the wounds of a friend are faithful - it is a true friend who will gently and lovingly rebuke me when I go astray.

I guess the misunderstanding between us highlights another benefit of face to face meeting over digital - misunderstandings in communication are much less likely to happen with communication in the real world!

 

[bcbsr]

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not stop assembling, as some of us do, but let us encourage one another, and with greater reason now that we see that day is approaching.
The Lord made it very clear that when he comes nobody will know, he will come as a thief in the night.
1) So, in the previous verse when it says "now that we see that day is approaching" what day does it refer to?

2) Today there is the digital church, you can help with verses in social networks, forums for people who need it. This forum is a big example. And for training, on Youtube it is full of preaching. So, the church as a physicist is no longer obligatory for the believer?. (i dont mean innecesary). Satisfice the need of social relationships.
If a believer helps people virtually instead of telling them the same thing in person, and instead of going physically, listen to the Sunday preaching on YouTube, is not it the same?

It seems to me social media generally provides more opportunities for fellowship and exercising one's spiritual gifts than an institutional church.

What does the average Christian do at an institutional church? Not much beyond attendance. He hears a sermon that you can get online, sings songs given to him, doesn't generally talk to anyone (not allowed to talk during the "service"), and puts money in the basket largely to fund the institutionally elite and maintain the building. That's the church life of your average Christian.

 

[Hazelelponi]

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So then, what your saying is, just because a person you are talking to face to face is in a bad Spiritual place at that moment, it is impossible for him to have something of value for you to hear because, you see him physically and judge him to be unworthy.

But if you were talking to that same person online in a Forum, you could possibly receive some advice for him because, you were unable to Judge him?

Does a person cease to be Spiritual and not worthy to listen to if at any given moment in their lives they are in a bad place Spiritually, does their ability to understand a situation and give Spiritual knowledge on a matter, stop until they begin living Spiritually again?

Yes... 1 Timothy 3:2-10 shows us what kind of person qualifies as an overseer (deacon/pastor/elder) in the church.. Titus 1:5-9 also shows us the qualifications of an elder..

There is a reason for that, its that sin is like a blockade to understanding His Word.

Isaiah 59:2-3 is a good example:

" See, the Lord’s hand is not so short that it cannot save, and His ear is not closed that it cannot hear. But your wrong-doings have kept you away from your God. Your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He does not hear. "

There is also this passage in Romans:

For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.’ (Romans 8:14)

Do you think the blind can lead the children without sending them over a cliff?

People living in open sin are less likely to be able to lead you into a deeper understanding of God's Word because they are the least likely to know it.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not stop assembling, as some of us do, but let us encourage one another, and with greater reason now that we see that day is approaching.
The Lord made it very clear that when he comes nobody will know, he will come as a thief in the night.
1) So, in the previous verse when it says "now that we see that day is approaching" what day does it refer to?

2) Today there is the digital church, you can help with verses in social networks, forums for people who need it. This forum is a big example. And for training, on Youtube it is full of preaching. So, the church as a physicist is no longer obligatory for the believer?. (i dont mean innecesary). Satisfice the need of social relationships.
If a believer helps people virtually instead of telling them the same thing in person, and instead of going physically, listen to the Sunday preaching on YouTube, is not it the same?

Nothing can replace the in person experience that is intended in the physical church.

It's intended that those your attending church with know you and know your struggles.

The church is there to encourage one another, help one another, teach one another. When there is a persecuted church that support is all the more important, as it was in the days leading up to the destruction of the Temple.

When someone just had their wife arrested for being Christian, or their husband just stoned to death that physical church is necessary; the in person shoulders to cry on and encouragement is essential.

Even in the absence of persecution we still need one another, it may seem less so, but we still do. Everyone has their trials and it is through the trials of life we are to be there for one another.

There is nothing like coming home and being embraced by family - this is how church should be like..

 

[AnnaDeborah]

It seems to me social media generally provides more opportunities for fellowship and exercising one's spiritual gifts than an institutional church.

What does the average Christian do at an institutional church? Not much beyond attendance. He hears a sermon that you can get online, sings songs given to him, doesn't generally talk to anyone (not allowed to talk during the "service"), and puts money in the basket largely to fund the institutionally elite and maintain the building. That's the church life of your average Christian.

If this is your experience of church, then you need to change your church! Because what you are describing is not church - or not all of it anyway. Yes, in our gathering we sing together and listen to a message and we also give (but not to fund the 'elite'!), but we talk with each other about what we have heard and sung, we pray with each other, some weeks we are rejoicing with a member who has good news, other weeks we are weeping with one who is suffering. The things I value most about my church are not the things that can be replicated online!

 

[carolina16]

Our spiritual gifts are not given to us for our own good, but for the good of others, so isolating ourselves will only hinder our spiritual growth.

What if it´s replace doing things por people, like going out to evangelize?

 

[JohnC2]

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But as we have seen, the sentries are self appointed and are now continually sounding the alarm.

Which is the one to listen to, The Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Charismatic, or the Non Denominational?

Yes - or false alarm, noise, and chaos...

My opinion on the matter is that it’s more a matter of discernment to determine whether the individual church is paying attention to the move of God or not.... Some are, some aren’t and my experience is that it’s not particularly denomination specific....

One part of the miracle at Pentecost was The Glory of The Lord coming upon multiple men - not just one... Aka the authorization that following any one of them was correct.....

God sort of hints at what was going on in Ezekiel 11:16. I will be as a little Holy place to them in all the countries I have scattered them into....

 

[Soyeong]

What if it´s replace doing things por people, like going out to evangelize?

Can you please state your question more clearly?

 

[Righttruth]

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But as we have seen, the sentries are self appointed and are now continually sounding the alarm.

Which is the one to listen to, The Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Charismatic, or the Non Denominational?

You find merits and demerits in all denominations and sects. Nevertheless, there can be only one absolute truth. So know it and share it no matter with who you fellowship with.