What is the significance of the Seamless Garment Jesus Wore?

[AlexDTX]

I have always wondered this. It seems that there is something significant beyond fulfilling prophecies.

Psa_22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Joh_19:24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Joh_19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.​

It seems (no pun intended) significant. What do you all think?

 

[miggles]

It seems (no pun intended) significant.

lol

 

[eleos1954]

I have always wondered this. It seems that there is something significant beyond fulfilling prophecies.

Psa_22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Joh_19:24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Joh_19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.​

It seems (no pun intended) significant. What do you all think?

To fulfill prophesy for one.

Matthew 27:35

And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, as in Psalms 22:18 They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

Yes, there is definitely theological meaning to the seamless woven garment (John 19:23). The mention of the garment tells us the Jesus was acting as High Priest. The High Priest wore such a garment at Passover. In fact, without the garment, the priest was not fit to serve (Ezekiel 44:19). The garment is not the ONLY thing that makes the priest fit to serve, but it is a MUST. The Levitical priests all wore this garment; it is mentioned specifically in the narrative telling of king Saul's order to murder 85 priests (1 Samuel 22:18). Mentioned elsewhere I am sure.

So Jesus is BOTH the Lamb AND the High Priest who offers the Lamb (himself). Jesus was crucified "at the sixth hour" (John 19:14). That was the very hour in which the High Priest began the slaughter of the Passover lambs in the Temple.

Psalms 77:13
King James Version
Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?

 

[Carl Emerson]

The prophetic word is accurate to minor detail.

The seamless robe was covering the first seamless body.

Do you think the robe was bought by a wealthy believer and Jesus was buried in it ?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Do you think the robe was bought by a wealthy believer and Jesus was buried in it ?

Jesus was buried in the Shroud and there was a head cover also. The Catholic Church has the Shroud and they allow science to take a peek at it every now and then.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

I have always wondered this. It seems that there is something significant beyond fulfilling prophecies.

Psa_22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Joh_19:24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Joh_19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.​

It seems (no pun intended) significant. What do you all think?

I believe there is some allegorical significance to it.

Consistent life ethic - Wikipedia

I don't believe in all of the above link but I do think there is something to be said for having some kind of consistent out on theology as far as not having a patch work outlook, one that is not compartmentalized etc. Truth in Hebrew Emeth deals with Truth as far as something that has strength, coherence, stability and integrity.


The Church likewise is suppose to be whole and not divided a reflection of the Godhead that is united as One.


21 Bible verses about One Church

 

[fwGod]

I have always wondered this. It seems that there is something significant beyond fulfilling prophecies.

Psa_22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Joh_19:24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Joh_19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.​

It seems (no pun intended) significant. What do you all think?

The dividing of Jesus garments among the soldiers got more excessive when the casting of lots resulted in a particular soldier getting the whole thing. The other soldiers weren't satisfied until they viciously ripped it up between them.

Why did they want it? The spoils of their victory? Bragging rights?

 

[Carl Emerson]

I thought the other garments were divided evenly among the soldiers but the Seamless Garment remained whole and was won by casting lots, to one of the soldiers.
In this case it was almost certainly sold, possibly to a wealthy (secret?) believer. conjecture of course.

 

[AlexDTX]

Yes, there is definitely theological meaning to the seamless woven garment (John 19:23). The mention of the garment tells us the Jesus was acting as High Priest. The High Priest wore such a garment at Passover. In fact, without the garment, the priest was not fit to serve (Ezekiel 44:19). The garment is not the ONLY thing that makes the priest fit to serve, but it is a MUST. The Levitical priests all wore this garment; it is mentioned specifically in the narrative telling of king Saul's order to murder 85 priests (1 Samuel 22:18). Mentioned elsewhere I am sure.

So Jesus is BOTH the Lamb AND the High Priest who offers the Lamb (himself). Jesus was crucified "at the sixth hour" (John 19:14). That was the very hour in which the High Priest began the slaughter of the Passover lambs in the Temple.

That is an excellent answer. But I don't think there is a mention in Leviticus about the High Priest garment being seamless. I've looked at the garments made by the Temple Institute in Jerusalem, but I was not looking to see if they were seamless. I don't think they were.

 

[AlexDTX]

The seamless robe was covering the first seamless body.

Do you think the robe was bought by a wealthy believer and Jesus was buried in it ?

1. Are you equating seamless with sinless?
2. Interesting question. I don't know.

 

[AlexDTX]

I do think there is something to be said for having some kind of consistent out on theology as far as not having a patch work outlook, one that is not compartmentalized etc. Truth in Hebrew Emeth deals with Truth as far as something that has strength, coherence, stability and integrity.


The Church likewise is suppose to be whole and not divided a reflection of the Godhead that is united as One.

Wow. Great insight. I had not thought in those terms. Thank you.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The mention of the garment tells us the Jesus was acting as High Priest.

This is actually a wedding garment. Or the garment the Priest wears at a wedding. "Though your sins be as scarlet They shall be as white as snow". We are cleansed in the river of life that proceeds from the Throne of God. So we can return to a deeper relationship with God. This represents purity, holiness, light and Godliness. Jesus tells us we are judged by the purity of our wedding garment. Without spot, blemish or wrinkle. For some people this represents a proverb 31 wife.

Some say that the scarlet is washed out of the material. Others say God turns the clock back or goes back in time to remove the sin. I have had God go back in time for healing. At least time for me. He is outside of time. So past, present and future is all the same for Him. So they say to renew the wedding garment as if the robe was never stained. To be returned or restored to absolute purity.

 

[Carl Emerson]

1. Are you equating seamless with sinless?
2. Interesting question. I don't know.

Yes...

 

[eleos1954]

That is an excellent answer. But I don't think there is a mention in Leviticus about the High Priest garment being seamless. I've looked at the garments made by the Temple Institute in Jerusalem, but I was not looking to see if they were seamless. I don't think they were.

Additional Priestly Garments
(Exodus 28:31-43)

22They made the robe of the ephod entirely of blue cloth, the work of a weaver, 23with an opening in the center of the robe like that of a garment, with a collar around the opening so that it would not tear.

The blue one piece, wasn't sewn .... it was woven with an opening in the center.

Have you ever done any weaving? One can weave in slits and holes.

When it says woven or work of a weaver ... it means not sewn.

The priestly vestments were not sewn like other ordinary garments ... they were woven.

 

[AlexDTX]

Additional Priestly Garments
(Exodus 28:31-43)

22They made the robe of the ephod entirely of blue cloth, the work of a weaver, 23with an opening in the center of the robe like that of a garment, with a collar around the opening so that it would not tear.

The blue one piece, wasn't sewn .... it was woven with an opening in the center.

Have you ever done any weaving? One can weave in slits and holes.

When it says woven or work of a weaver ... it means not sewn.

The priestly vestments were not sewn like other ordinary garments ... they were woven.

You are a noble Berean. Thank you.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I have always wondered this. It seems that there is something significant beyond fulfilling prophecies.

Psa_22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Joh_19:24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Joh_19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.​

It seems (no pun intended) significant. What do you all think?

No other significance except that it fulfilled prophecy spoken hundreds of years before. Any suggestion of some allegorical significance is just nonsense.

 

[Vicky gould]

Jesus was buried in the Shroud and there was a head cover also. The Catholic Church has the Shroud and they allow science to take a peek at it every now and then.

Hi, I have wondered about this claim for sometime. I read and have heard someone who supposedly knew about burial methods of those days that a number of different spices were used and this made the shroud like a cast. When they looked in the cast was still in the shape of the Body with the head covering left as a carpenter who finished His work and promised to return.

 

[Julian of Norwich]

Hi, I have wondered about this claim for sometime. I read and have heard someone who supposedly knew about burial methods of those days that a number of different spices were used and this made the shroud like a cast. When they looked in the cast was still in the shape of the Body with the head covering left as a carpenter who finished His work and promised to return.

I used to be RCC and I never heard this one!