What is the “Doctrine of Impartation”?

[JimB]

What is the “Doctrine of Impartation”?

Is this it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVdY9ufJmz8

 

[map4]

I'm not sure...is it similar to a double portion of Elijah's spirit/annointing being upon Elisha?

Elisha asked for it and it was imparted to him??

 

[JimfromOhio]

All I know and understand is “impartation” can be defined as the transmission of information or communication by means of transmitted signals through the Holy Spirit in tongues and healing among believers. Doctrine of Impartation is growing among pentecostal churches and ministries. As I understood, they teach that it is to impart and empower believers from all levels by equipping them to reproduce the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit in the area of healing.

If I am guessing correct, then it is not biblical. The Holy Spirit nor any part of the Holy Spirit can be passed from one person to another. The Holy Spirit is a Person Himself: He is God. He does not separate and distribute Himself through humanity.

 

[map4]

What about:
1 Timothy 4:12 Let no one despise your youth, but be an example to the believers in word, in conduct, in love, in spirit, in faith, in purity. 13Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 14Do not neglect the gift that is in you, which was given to you by prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the eldership. 15Meditate on these things; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all. 16Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.


Would that be an example of impartation?

I"ve heard people talk about impartations but I never really thought about it much or studied to see if it is biblical.

 

[gennaoanothen]

All I know and understand is “impartation” can be defined as the transmission of information or communication by means of transmitted signals through the Holy Spirit in tongues and healing among believers. Doctrine of Impartation is growing among pentecostal churches and ministries. As I understood, they teach that it is to impart and empower believers from all levels by equipping them to reproduce the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit in the area of healing.

If I am guessing correct, then it is not biblical. The Holy Spirit nor any part of the Holy Spirit can be passed from one person to another. The Holy Spirit is a Person Himself: He is God. He does not separate and distribute Himself through humanity.

Jim
read Acts 19:1-6
read also Acts 8:12-20
notice verses 17-19

 

[NewSong]

What is the “Doctrine of Impartation”?

LOL!!!! I am still trying to get the cooties off of me that were imparted and some are trying to get my cooties off of them! Just kidding but not really. I used to go around spooked and feeling the creepy crawlers because someone touched me when we prayed. I wanted their nasty hands off of me because I was sure I was going to catch their demons! Instead of focusing on God, I would stand their and pray superstitiously

"'I PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS OVER ME' -please keep this person's cooties away from me. I don't need them and don't want them...I just want you God!"

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Actually the doctrine of impartation technically starts out in the book of Acts (Acts 10:38) when God imparted the power and the Holy Spirit to Jesus. Then it goes to Elijah and a double portion if we keep our eyes on JESUS or the prophet as some will say and do. They say we will catch an impartation from them. Excuse the sarcasm, if it comes across that way but I am so repulsed by this doctrine and the pain it caused me and so many others. As one Revivalist went about NY and Canada preaching and teaching as well as Maria Woodworth-Etter and Amy McPherson, BH, Kathryn Kuhlman and R.H-Browne taught and preached that by the laying on of hands that you could transfer healings, different giftings and deliverances as well as you could catch demons if the wrong person laid hands on you.

Recently at our local AoG, there was a speaker who so convincingly told the congregation that this lady who had a hip problem would be able to run after this doood laid hands on her and imparted healing. He told her to run up and down the aisles. The woman couldn't run worth a hoot... The speaker said he know God healed her because He felt the impartation. So he asks the lady what she experienced and she said nothing but a whole lot of pain. So he pushed her down again and had his people pull her up and he told her to run. I started to cry for the lady because the pain was obvious to her... She again told him she was in a lot of pain. After the third time, she told him NO MORE and I was so angry that this precious lady done what he told her to because of his arrogance and intimidation implying the lady would definitely say yes she experienced an impartation when she clearly didn't. She told the whole congregation that as well. A person I used to go to church with sat in the back seat with me and we both observed and when the lady cut loose and said what she had to say, "we snickered a little at her honesty." I was sure glad I was sitting with this friend from a former church because he was a trusted leader that was hushed by so many in a former church.

I consider it a false doctrine and thankfully the church downtown didn't have the man back.

 

[Svt4Him]

What about:
1 Timothy 4:12 Let no one despise your youth, but be an example to the believers in word, in conduct, in love, in spirit, in faith, in purity. 13Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 14Do not neglect the gift that is in you, which was given to you by prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the eldership. 15Meditate on these things; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all. 16Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.


Would that be an example of impartation?

I"ve heard people talk about impartations but I never really thought about it much or studied to see if it is biblical.

Good verse.

 

[NewSong]

Good verse.

But where does that verse say there was an impartation?

 

[Svt4Him]

Do not neglect the gift that is in you, which was given to you by prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the eldership

First let me state I know of no "doctrine of impartation" in any of the churches I've been involved in, so it is based on the assumption the OP is talking about imparting gifts through the laying on of hands. If that is the case, the verse above, if you break it down, says:

Do not neglect the gift that is in you- Timothy had a gift. How did he get that gift?:
Given by prophecy- words were spoken over him. Shows the power the NT believers had in the spoken word. Any other way it was given?:
the laying on of hands - So was there something in the laying on of hands or the act of laying on of hands? Was it the faith in the hands, or an actual impartation? Well, it's no doubt open to debate, but if you read it as it stands, it says the gift was given by the through prophecy with the laying on of hands, which infers impartation, (given or bestowed.)

 

[NewSong]

I always thought of the laying on of hands, of late, that scripture was saying we approve of you young man and you have our blessing.

 

[Svt4Him]

Possibly that is also true, but this verse doesn't say that. It was prophecy with the laying on of hands.

 

[NewSong]

All I know and understand is “impartation” can be defined as the transmission of information or communication by means of transmitted signals through the Holy Spirit in tongues and healing among believers. Doctrine of Impartation is growing among pentecostal churches and ministries. As I understood, they teach that it is to impart and empower believers from all levels by equipping them to reproduce the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit in the area of healing.

If I am guessing correct, then it is not biblical. The Holy Spirit nor any part of the Holy Spirit can be passed from one person to another. The Holy Spirit is a Person Himself: He is God. He does not separate and distribute Himself through humanity.

Why isn't it biblical? Just for the sake of a healthy discussion, I have to wonder if there isn't something to it because of a personal experience and that is all I will say there but also because scriptures says so in Romans 1:11.

 

[NewSong]

So possibly that scripture in Timothy was trying to connect Timothy up with a message from messengers not necessarily an impartation? Am I understanding what is being said here?

 

[gennaoanothen]

Jim
read Acts 19:1-6
read also Acts 8:12-20
notice verses 17-19

Acts 8:12-20
The Apostles prayed for vs 15, then laid hands on vs17, then they received the Holy Spirit vs 17
vs 18 and when Simon saw that through laying on of the Apostles hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, saying give me also this power, that on whomsever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
Of course Simon was rebuked because he thought he could purchase this gift, from God.

 

[JimB]

Apparently this Doctrine of Impartation does not work very well. If I remember correctly, Todd Bentley went through a highly publicized “impartation” ceremony by some nationally known, self-appointed apostles/prophets just days before He split his unrepentant spiritual britches before the eyes of the world. A lot of good that doctrine did him and the world.

The ceremony used to be on YouTube but somebody has removed it.

~Jim

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis​

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[JimfromOhio]

Apparently this Doctrine of Impartation does not work very well. If I remember correctly, Todd Bentley went through a highly publicized “impartation” ceremony by some nationally known, self-appointed apostles/prophets just days before He split his unrepentant spiritual britches before the eyes of the world. A lot of good that doctrine did him and the world.

The ceremony used to be on YouTube but somebody has removed it.

~Jim

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis​

Hands is one we are to focus.

Hands are attached to a Christian who's life may be questionable, just like Todd Bentley. I have faith in God's hands but I don't have faith in other Christians' hands.

False teachings can work their way into any denominations and Christ have warned us of those wolves who come into our "Spiritual Church" pretending to be one of us. 1 John 4:1 (NIV) Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Lack of accountability between Pastors and elders. Do you know your elders before you allow their hands to be over your heads?

 

[visionary]

It is one thing to lay hands on and bless, pray over,..

It is quite another to lay hands on and command..

God is sovereign and His Will be done... not hands layer.

 

[NewSong]

The one that gets me is when people say lay your hands on the computer monitor or the TV screen and God is going to touch you right there. There is going to be an impartation. I laughed because I can just see millions like me that were so gullible as to touch the screen waiting and then disappointed because there was nothing.

I will say there is something to impartation. I am not sure it is GOD but there is something. I have examined the fruits and wondered what on earth happened but I know what I know and there is no way anyone will take those experiences away. BUT I want more than an experience. I want GOD and HIS SPIRIT to dwell in me. I don't want an occultic ritual, or a cultic ritual but I want God's touch. I have experienced something so powerful that when someone started to touch me or lay hands on me that I can't deny but the fruit did not say it was GOD. I still have to wonder what kind of a mess I got myself into for all those years?

 

[JimfromOhio]

It is one thing to lay hands on and bless, pray over,..

It is quite another to lay hands on and command..

God is sovereign and His Will be done... not hands layer.

If that is the case, hands are not required.

 

[Svt4Him]

Apparently this Doctrine of Impartation does not work very well. If I remember correctly, Todd Bentley went through a highly publicized “impartation” ceremony by some nationally known, self-appointed apostles/prophets just days before He split his unrepentant spiritual britches before the eyes of the world. A lot of good that doctrine did him and the world.

The ceremony used to be on YouTube but somebody has removed it.

~Jim

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis​

Nor does the doctrine of preaching to the lost, because I recall seeing someone preach yet the people didn't get saved.

But I wonder if this is how you determine truth, by taking a Bible verse and applying it to a totally different scenario so you can shoot it down.