What do Baptists believe about speaking in tongues?

[OzSpen]

The evidence is the revival that took place in the USA about one hundred years ago. Mushrooming of Pentecostal based denominations with further splits that followed. (Revival also appeared in UK earlier to the USA but it died out). The black pastor who started this died heart broken for the way things went bad to worse.

Where is the evidence that tongues ceased for centuries? Please go back to the Early Church Fathers to discover if they agree with you.

Tertullian (a Montanist) believed in the gifts of the Spirit continuing to function in his time - late 2nd and early 3rd centuries. Tertullian's life-span was c. 155 – c. 240 AD.

See my article: St. Augustine: The leading Church Father who dared to change his mind about divine healing

Oz

 

[Tayla]

I do not believe that the modern tongues movement (ecstatic babbling) is biblical at all nor is it of the Holy Spirit...I believe it is of the flesh (not the devil).

Yes, I agree.

 

[Righttruth]

That's an imposition on the text. For what is the Holy Spirit's gift of tongues given? ' For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God' (1 Cor 14:2 NIV).

Then it is not a spiritual gift.
1 Corinthians 12:7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.

 

[Righttruth]

That cannot be possible for the KJV as it is based on Erasmus's Textus Receptus Greek text that was created from only a handful of Greek MSS:

Erasmus 'had only six Greek manuscripts immediately accessible to him in Basel. They all dated from the 12th Century or later'.

He didn't have a MSS with the last 6 verses of the Book of Revelation, so he translated them from the Latin Vulgate. Since the publication of the Textus Receptus, no new Greek MSS has been found that agrees fully with Erasmus's translation (Textus Receptus).

Whatever, considering Paul's explanation and context, it cannot be Spirit, but only spirit.

 

[Righttruth]

Where is the evidence that tongues ceased for centuries? Please go back to the Early Church Fathers to discover if they agree with you.

Tertullian (a Montanist) believed in the gifts of the Spirit continuing to function in his time - late 2nd and early 3rd centuries. Tertullian's life-span was c. 155 – c. 240 AD.

See my article: St. Augustine: The leading Church Father who dared to change his mind about divine healing

Oz

What mean is that speaking unknown tongue by a person's spirit so also questionable interpretation stopped for centuries. Nevertheless, a person speaking an existing language unknown to him but correctly understood someone present in the congregation may have continued. That is a spiritual gift.

 

[John 1720]

Hi everyone. I am just curious as to what Baptists believe about speaking in tongues. I was raised Southern Baptist but I don't remember this issue ever coming up in church. I am slowly beginning to do research about various denominations because I am considering possibly going back to church again. Anyway, if you could, please identify which specific Baptist denomination you are in. I'll appreciate your answers.

God Bless,
Holly

Hi Holly,
I am an SB Christian. David Platt of the IMB believes the gifts continue to this day and so do I. I am quite at home with Pentecostals and use my gifts as directed by God's Spirit. For the record I actually come from a Charismatic background so I've only been associated with SB for the last 24 years. Some SB's, however, do not share Platt's opinion, nor mine, and believe in cessation. However, I say that the Holy Spirit is God so if He truly is the same yesterday, today and forever then His gifts are also the same yesterday, in our day, and any partiality to complete the work of God only ceases with the fullness of Christ coming when in the blink of an eye we will be forever changed. We will then be complete in Christ as 1 Corinthians 13 alludes to for our knowledge shall also be full and complete in His fulfillment

In Christ, Patrick

 

[OzSpen]

Then it is not a spiritual gift.
1 Corinthians 12:7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.

It is a spiritual gift because Scripture has stated so:

There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work (1 Cor 12:4-6 NIV).​

One of the 'different kinds of gifts' is 'to another speaking in different kinds of tongues' (1 Cor 12:10 NIV).

This gift of tongues has 2 manifestations:

1. 'For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God' . This manifestation is for personal edification in one's speaking to God in tongues, which involves 'mysteries in the Spirit'. People who have been given this spiritual gift 'utter mysteries by the Spirit' (1 Cor 14:2 NIV). Nevertheless, it leads to personal edification.
   
2. Secondly, the gift of tongues in the church gathering must be accompanied by the gift of interpretation:

26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God (1 Cor 14:26-28 NIV).​

I am of the view that in many Pentecostal/charismatic churches in my country, Canada and the USA, that I have attended, there is disorder because there are many people speaking in tongues without interpreters. Thus, any unbeliever who comes into such a gathering, he or she would encounter this: 'If the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? (1 Cor 14:23 NIV).

Oz​

 

[Righttruth]

It is a spiritual gift because Scripture has stated so:

There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work (1 Cor 12:4-6 NIV).​

One of the 'different kinds of gifts' is 'to another speaking in different kinds of tongues' (1 Cor 12:10 NIV).

This gift of tongues has 2 manifestations:

1. 'For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God' . This manifestation is for personal edification in one's speaking to God in tongues, which involves 'mysteries in the Spirit'. People who have been given this spiritual gift 'utter mysteries by the Spirit' (1 Cor 14:2 NIV). Nevertheless, it leads to personal edification.
   
2. Secondly, the gift of tongues in the church gathering must be accompanied by the gift of interpretation:

26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God (1 Cor 14:26-28 NIV).​

I am of the view that in many Pentecostal/charismatic churches in my country, Canada and the USA, that I have attended, there is disorder because there are many people speaking in tongues without interpreters. Thus, any unbeliever who comes into such a gathering, he or she would encounter this: 'If the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? (1 Cor 14:23 NIV).

Oz​

Anyone speaking to God without his own understanding cannot be a spiritual gift, but a personal spirit's response. When spoken in congregation, Paul only wished it could be interpreted. It is has been found that different interpretations have been given for the same gibberish talk. So it is not related to the Holy Spirit.

In the two types you have mentioned, one is the spiritual gift and another is the involvement of person's spirit. Connecting the two would be wrong.

 

[OzSpen]

Anyone speaking to God without his own understanding cannot be a spiritual gift, but a personal spirit's response.

That's your personal view.

 

[Righttruth]

That's your personal view.

That is my unbiased understanding, not based on private interpretations of spiritually unqualified people.

 

[OzSpen]

That is my unbiased understanding, not based on private interpretations of spiritually unqualified people.

Who provide these 'private interpretations of spiritually unqualified people'?

Are you saying I fit that category?

 

[Righttruth]

Who provide these 'private interpretations of spiritually unqualified people'?

Are you saying I fit that category?

Only disciples of Christ are qualified for the interpretations of the writings.

 

[Sam91]

Why do other religions also speak in tongues?

Glossolalia - Wikipedia

The screenshot is taken from the link. In the wiki article it also states Brigham Young spoke in tongues too.

 

[now faith]

1 Corinthians 14: 2. For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. 3. But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. 4. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.


Romans 8: 24. For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25. But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. 26. Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

 

[now faith]

1 Corinthians 14: 27. If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29. Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 32. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 39. Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40. Let all things be done decently and in order.

 

[OzSpen]

Only disciples of Christ are qualified for the interpretations of the writings.

I'm a disciple of Jesus Christ and have been for 56 years.

Do I qualify?

 

[Righttruth]

I'm a disciple of Jesus Christ and have been for 56 years.

Do I qualify?

Do you satisfy these conditions Jesus defined?

Luke 14: 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

 

[OzSpen]

Do you satisfy these conditions Jesus defined?

Luke 14: 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Why are you being judgmental about me and questioning my discipleship integrity?

 

[Righttruth]

Why are you being judgmental about me and questioning my discipleship integrity?

I am not questioning your integrity. It is for clarification. Do you understand the implications of Jesus' words to qualify for discipleship?

 

[OzSpen]

I am not questioning your integrity. It is for clarification. Do you understand the implications of Jesus' words to qualify for discipleship?

You continue to question the integrity of my relationship with Jesus Christ.

Is it not good enough for me to confirm I am an evangelical, born again, disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ?