US poised to see dramatic drop (~16%) in homicides for 3rd straight year

[Eternally Grateful]

Cool story, bro.

This thread is about the drop in murder rates over the past few years.

fake news.

murder rates are up. not down, look at reality, not what the news wants you to think.

 

[Bradskii]

"Perceived crime"? What drives that?

See the post immediately following yours.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

See the post immediately following yours.

amen, perceived - what people see..

 

[Pommer]

murder rates are up. not down, look at reality, not what the news wants you to think.

We are all free to believe as we like but if you’ve got evidence that murder rates are up…show us, make us believe that what you believe to be true and correct, is.

 

[Bradskii]

Reality came from what I see every morning when I wake up and have al alert on my phone ( I finally shut alerts down)

I've been up since 6:00am and haven't seen any murders yet. No alerts about about them either. Looks like the rate is going down today. Could be that 2025 is going to be a good year for not getting murdered.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

We are all free to believe as we like but if you’ve got evidence that murder rates are up…show us, make us believe that what you believe to be true and correct, is.

shaking my head.

can you hear?

As I said, I wake or woke up daily hearing of murders and I have never seen this before.

I had a local news ap on my phone, for the weather alerts (I live in a zone which has tornadoes) and I want alerted if one is headed my way.

sadly, when you have alerts on. any news that comes across. you are alerted to it. Every morning I would see alerts that a man was shot and killed outside a bar. that there was a drug related murder in downtown. that a husband killed his wife in a murder suicide. That a person was killed by a drive by shooting, that a little girl in a house was killed by a stray bullet fired from outside the house. That a fee bystanders were killed when two people got in a fight and one of them pulled a gun and started shooting. A girl was found raped and stabbed to death here or there.

it got so bad I turned the notices off because I was sickened every day waking up and seeing these alerts on my phone.

Then I see in the news murder rates are down. DO WHAT??

Give me a break man, you want to believe murder rates are down, feel free. the rest of us will live in reality that the lives of people are so downtrodden because of their lives, that the rule of law is out the door. and many of the big cities have cut their police force because of the BLM and other movements and the outcry to defund the police.

 

[iluvatar5150]

actually in this case. I am seeing a report that says murder is down. which goes against what i see in reality

the report came from the news

Reality came from what I see every morning when I wake up and have al alert on my phone ( I finally shut alerts down)

I think you might want to work on your media literacy a bit.

Where are you seeing these things "in reality"? Are you out there every day counting bodies? No, you're not. You're getting alerts on your phone, or seeing headlines, or something of that nature - all of which are forms of media consumption. You think you're eschewing "media narratives" when what you're actually doing is trading one narrative for another. This time, you're either constructing the narrative on your own, or your accepting narratives from other sources with your own biases.

You're using your own awareness of murders as a proxy for the actual murder rate which is, frankly, absurd. Even if your memory were perfect (and it isn't), such a metric would be skewed by subjective things like the editorial decisions of your preferred outlets and your capacity to consume all of the relevant news. You see more murders now because you signed up for news alerts, not because there are more murders.

Regarding your poor memory - murders in Columbus rose through 2021 and then started falling a lot. Murder numbers in 2024 were pretty low relative to 2021, but they may still be high relative to (or on par with) numbers from a decade past.

 

[Pommer]

I've been up since 6:00am and haven't seen any murders yet. No alerts about about them either. Looks like the rate is going down today. Could be that 2025 is going to be a good year for not getting murdered.

HNY and Good morning.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I've been up since 6:00am and haven't seen any murders yet. No alerts about about them either. Looks like the rate is going down today. Could be that 2025 is going to be a good year for not getting murdered.

if you believe this, good for you.

I won't believe it, because the rates have been manipulated to appear that things are not as bad as they seem..

was there a murder last night? I have no idea. if not great, does that mean murder rates are down? 1 day out of 365 days? whatever

 

[Pommer]

shaking my head.

can you hear?

As I said, I wake or woke up daily hearing of murders and I have never seen this before.

I had a local news ap on my phone, for the weather alerts (I live in a zone which has tornadoes) and I want alerted if one is headed my way.

sadly, when you have alerts on. any news that comes across. you are alerted to it. Every morning I would see alerts that a man was shot and killed outside a bar. that there was a drug related murder in downtown. that a husband killed his wife in a murder suicide. That a person was killed by a drive by shooting, that a little girl in a house was killed by a stray bullet fired from outside the house. That a fee bystanders were killed when two people got in a fight and one of them pulled a gun and started shooting. A girl was found raped and stabbed to death here or there.

it got so bad I turned the notices off because I was sickened every day waking up and seeing these alerts on my phone.

Then I see in the news murder rates are down. DO WHAT??

Give me a break man, you want to believe murder rates are down, feel free. the rest of us will live in reality that the lives of people are so downtrodden because of their lives, that the rule of law is out the door. and many of the big cities have cut their police force because of the BLM and other movements and the outcry to defund the police.

You’re paying attention to the news more lately?
That’s nice.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I think you might want to work on your media literacy a bit.

Where are you seeing these things "in reality"? Are you out there every day counting bodies? No, you're not. You're getting alerts on your phone, or seeing headlines, or something of that nature - all of which are forms of media consumption. You think you're eschewing "media narratives" when what you're actually doing is trading one narrative for another. This time, you're either constructing the narrative on your own, or your accepting narratives from other sources with your own biases.

You're using your own awareness of murders as a proxy for the actual murder rate which is, frankly, absurd. Even if your memory were perfect (and it isn't), such a metric would be skewed by subjective things like the editorial decisions of your preferred outlets and your capacity to consume all of the relevant news.

whatever dude.

believe what you want. I am not hear to prove you wrong. I am just warning that people should not take this report serious. that should look for themselves.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You’re paying attention to the news more lately?
That’s nice.

no actually I turned my AP off.

why would I want to pay attention to news that can not be trusted?

 

[Belk]

if you believe this, good for you.

I won't believe it, because the rates have been manipulated to appear that things are not as bad as they seem..

was there a murder last night? I have no idea. if not great, does that mean murder rates are down? 1 day out of 365 days? whatever

Your evidence for this is what, specifically?

 

[iluvatar5150]

whatever dude.

believe what you want. I am not hear to prove you wrong. I am just warning that people should not take this report serious. that should look for themselves.

We are looking for ourselves. You're the one using your phone alerts as a proxy for data.

 

[Desk trauma]

I do not trust the news period. I stopped watching mainstream media a few years go.. All I hear is a bunch of lies and slanted opinions.. and when something bad does happen which would not help them. all you hear is silence..

If you don’t watch the news how do you wake up and see someone was murdered on the news every day like you said?

 

[essentialsaltes]

the report came from the news

Reality came from what I see every morning when I wake up and have al alert on my phone ( I finally shut alerts down)

...that that alert was a source reporting on the news? And not a direct link to reality?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I've been up since 6:00am and haven't seen any murders yet. No alerts about about them either. Looks like the rate is going down today. Could be that 2025 is going to be a good year for not getting murdered.

Did anything come of the race at Randwick?

 

[Bradskii]

Did anything come of the race at Randwick?

Left Field won by a nose, paying $6. Shame nobody got back to me with that info.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Left Field won by a nose, paying $6. Shame nobody got back to me with that info.

I have a 15 minute session with the machine comming up in order to clean up some loose ends and mistakes made during a recent revision of the Austro-Prussian war, I'll try and pop on by to get some winners for the race on the 4th without altering the space/time continum too much.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Wow, these are fun facts! Super cool. Are we supposed to believe Joe Biden did this?