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Hello folks. Are any of you guys tired of hearing about gender and race in modern shows made over the past 5 years? Imagine watching Star Wars or a drama TV show and then the show mentions "three genders" or discusses about how brown and black folks are always oppressed, or where one group of people has no weakness, instead of all different groups assisting each other with different weaknesses. Yes, black folks may be slightly oppressed, but TV is meant to be a form of escapism from this society, not a place to shove race or gender stuff down my throat.

If we really want to complain about stuff, we should complain about the division of economic classes, and how the rich keep on getting richer, instead of pronouns or race stuff. Ahh, TV shows were much better in 2014 compared to 2024.
 

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Good points.

So much on tv and in the movies these days is no longer entertaining.
So much of it is propaganda.
Seems everyone is busy trying to tell us how to think, rather than to just entertain us.
 
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Good points.

So much on tv and in the movies these days is no longer entertaining.
So much of it is propaganda.
Seems everyone is busy trying to tell us how to think, rather than to just entertain us.
Agreed. That is why I am blessed to live near a library, and rent old and new TV shows for free without paying Hollywood a cent. :)
 
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Very cool! Good for you :cool:
Amen to that. This is a list of TV shows and movies that are mostly non-woke from the 20th and 21st centuries, with the exception of Star Trek: Discovery, which is partially woke. 1970s-2010s were the best.

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2024-10-02Star Trek VII: Generations (DVD)*Sci-fi1994
2024-10-03Shoplifters (DVD)*Japanese Drama2018
2024-10-04Star Trek VIII: First Contact (DVD)*Sci-fi, Time Travel1996
2024-10-05On Golden Pond (DVD)*Drama, Period Piece1981
2024-10-07Parasite (DVD)*Korean Drama, Psychological2019
2024-10-08Meet Joe Black (DVD)*Fantasy, Romance, Thriller1998
2024-10-08Life and Times of Grizzly AdamsIndie, Western Drama1974
2024-10-10Star Trek IX: Insurrection (DVD)*Sci-fi1998
2024-10-13Star Trek X: Nemesis (DVD)*Sci-fi2002
2024-10-14Solaris (Criterion DVD)*Sci-fi, psychological, romance1972
2024-10-16ISS (DVD)*Sci-fi, Thriller2024
2024-10-18La La Land (DVD)*Drama, romance, musical2016
2024-10-19Inside the Yellow Cocoon Shell (DVD)*Art House, Faith-based drama2023
2024-10-23The Sacrifice (DVD)*Sci-fi, dystopian1986
2024-10-23The Nana Project (DVD)*Drama-comedy2023
2024-10-24Finding Faith (DVD)*Christian, Faith-based drama2024
2024-10-24Farewell Amor (Criterion DVD)*Drama, Musical2020
2024-10-25Rosewood (DVD)*Historical, Period Piece1997
2024-10-26 to NowStar Trek: Discovery S5 (DVD)*Sci-fi2024
 
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Star Trek Season 2 Episode 21
"Patterns of Force"

The Deputy Führer is an authority on the genetics of racial purity. How would you classify this one?

Hm. Very difficult. Note the sinister eyes. And the malformed ears. Definitely an inferior race.

Note the low forehead, denoting stupidity; the dull look of a trapped animal. You may take him now for interrogation. But I want the body saved for the Cultural Museum. He'll make an interesting display.

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Season 3 Episode 15
"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
  • Bele: It is obvious to the most simpleminded that Lokai is of an inferior breed.
  • Mr. Spock: The obvious visual evidence, Commissioner, is that he is of the same breed as yourself.
  • Bele: Are you blind, Commander Spock? Well, look at me. Look at me!
  • Captain James T. Kirk: You are black on one side and white on the other.
  • Bele: I am black on the right side!
  • Captain James T. Kirk: I fail to see the significant difference.
  • Bele: Lokai is white on the right side. All of his people are white on the right side.
 
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I don't really mind the politics in media, but the political stuff I often see in new TV shows and films are pretty shallow and one sided.

Hoping AI film takes off soon. Imagine a world where a single person can craft a movie, TV show using AI. The amount of perspectives that can be put into big works of art will be socially game changing.
 
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Star Trek Season 2 Episode 21
"Patterns of Force"

The Deputy Führer is an authority on the genetics of racial purity. How would you classify this one?

Hm. Very difficult. Note the sinister eyes. And the malformed ears. Definitely an inferior race.

Note the low forehead, denoting stupidity; the dull look of a trapped animal. You may take him now for interrogation. But I want the body saved for the Cultural Museum. He'll make an interesting display.

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Season 3 Episode 15
"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
  • Bele: It is obvious to the most simpleminded that Lokai is of an inferior breed.
  • Mr. Spock: The obvious visual evidence, Commissioner, is that he is of the same breed as yourself.
  • Bele: Are you blind, Commander Spock? Well, look at me. Look at me!
  • Captain James T. Kirk: You are black on one side and white on the other.
  • Bele: I am black on the right side!
  • Captain James T. Kirk: I fail to see the significant difference.
  • Bele: Lokai is white on the right side. All of his people are white on the right side.
Nice Trek reference, brother. I liked Star Trek TOS (The Original Series). This was a good show episode for the time, as race needed to be discussed back then in the 1960s. In 2024, probably not as much. So, this is why I liked Star Trek TOS. It was relevant for the era, and helped show how the world could be operated better under a system of peace.
 
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I don't really mind the politics in media, but the political stuff I often see in new TV shows and films are pretty shallow and one sided.

Hoping AI film takes off soon. Imagine a world where a single person can craft a movie, TV show using AI. The amount of perspectives that can be put into big works of art will be socially game changing.
I am hoping AI film fails, unless AI films are kept at home, cos I do not want to pay for a bunch of AI generated stuff on my TV. But yes, some modern TV shows have become shallow and one-sided.
 
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I am hoping AI film fails, unless AI films are kept at home, cos I do not want to pay for a bunch of AI generated stuff on my TV. But yes, some modern TV shows have become shallow and one-sided.

People can upload their AI generated films for free on websites like YouTube.

I imagine the entertainment industry as we know will be irrelevant soon. The internet is continuing to level the playing field for free speech/expression.

I have no problem with AI generated content. AI doesn't have to be souless. AI films designed (directors really) will give the human touch that makes art have value to us.
 
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People can upload their AI generated films for free on websites like YouTube.

I imagine the entertainment industry as we know will be irrelevant soon. The internet is continuing to level the playing field for free speech/expression.

I have no problem with AI generated content. AI doesn't have to be souless. AI films designed (directors really) will give the human touch that makes art have value to us.
Yeah, but AI might take jobs away. I support locally run AI 100% though, such as AI run on a home or personal computer system, not corporate cloud AI generated movies.
 
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Yeah, but AI might take jobs away. I support locally run AI 100% though, such as AI run on a home or personal computer system, not corporate cloud AI generated movies.

I see it as old jobs replacing or maybe just modifying existing entertainment jobs. People wanting the human touch in art will ensure humans are still involved.

One can pour their blood sweat and tears crafting a movie with AI.
 
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I see it as old jobs replacing or maybe just modifying existing entertainment jobs. People wanting the human touch in art will ensure humans are still involved.

One can pour their blood sweat and tears crafting a movie with AI.
It is true, but hopefully the movies are labeled with a standardized disclaimer that says: "This cinematic feature is fully or partially generated by artificial intelligence software".

Proper labeling is half the battle to level the playing field between traditional media and AI generated media.
 
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It is true, but hopefully the movies are labeled with a standardized disclaimer that says: "This cinematic feature is fully or partially generated by artificial intelligence software".

Proper labeling is half the battle to level the playing field between traditional media and AI generated media.

I hope there is a dedicated free streaming platform like YouTube but specifically designed to curtail AI generated films, TV shows. Of course with disclaimers. Not only if it was generated partially by AI, but how much of the human touch was incorporated by this piece of media. How to measure such things I do not know. But being able to get some kind of percentage will effect the overall enjoyment of the media by consumers.
 
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I hope there is a dedicated free streaming platform like YouTube but specifically designed to curtail AI generated films, TV shows. Of course with disclaimers. Not only if it was generated partially by AI, but how much of the human touch was incorporated by this piece of media. How to measure such things I do not know. But being able to get some kind of percentage will effect the overall enjoyment of the media by consumers.
I agree with you, and I would be willing to watch films <20% AI generated, but anything over 50% is a no-go, unless it is well done.
 
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I agree with you, and I would be willing to watch films <20% AI generated, but anything over 50% is a no-go, unless it is well done.

While AI can be 100% AI generated in a sense. Every scene in the movie can still be painstakingly thought out and directed even to an absurd degree.

The measure of human touch in an AI generated movie goes beyond traditional art.
 
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While AI can be 100% AI generated in a sense. Every scene in the movie can still be painstakingly thought out and directed even to an absurd degree.

The measure of human touch in an AI generated movie goes beyond traditional art.
We will have to see what films will be like in 2030 or 2040.
 
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We will have to see what films will be like in 2030 or 2040.

I hope this technology comes soon. I have always had a few movie ideas and even some TV shows I would want to craft with AI.

People might as well plan these films TV shows out right now in anticipation that they will be able to craft these films soon.
 
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I hope this technology comes soon. I have always had a few movie ideas and even some TV shows I would want to craft with AI.

People might as well plan these films TV shows out right now in anticipation that they will be able to craft these films soon.
We will have to see, as I can not make any speculation right now.
 
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Hello folks. Are any of you guys tired of hearing about gender and race in modern shows made over the past 5 years? Imagine watching Star Wars or a drama TV show and then the show mentions "three genders" or discusses about how brown and black folks are always oppressed, or where one group of people has no weakness, instead of all different groups assisting each other with different weaknesses. Yes, black folks may be slightly oppressed, but TV is meant to be a form of escapism from this society, not a place to shove race or gender stuff down my throat.
Yes I have noticed this and I have become pretty good at telling. I get a couple of minutes into the show and as soon as the Woke starts I have to switch it off as I know its going to be horrible.

The weird thing is that big corps like Disney have purposely made their shows politically correct in recent years which has coincide with a massive decline in their popularity. Woke is not entertaining and the proof in the pudding is how customers turn off and Woke corps go broke.

I remember watching some analyst talking about how media is so powerful in influencing people. Back in the 80's when the academic ideologues were infiltrating society and gaining positions of influence that is when they began their social engineering experiment to push the progressive agenda.

The tactic was to find a well loved character, I think Dorothy from the Golden girls was one example. They then write in a controversial issue like Dorothy had an abortion when younger to make it seem that abortion is not so bad as even good people do it. It normalises abortion.

This has been the same tactic as ideologues have gains positions in media and admin. Push the idea into peoples loungerooms and eventually it changes social norms as it becomes more acceptable.

This is part of a bigger movement that has been happening also created by Leftist ideologues. The idea that the political is the personal. This brought the personal into politics and so now it was not just restricted to political issues and government. This was the birth of identity politics.

As a result we see politics in stuff like school bathrooms, sports, ads like Gillette and Bud. Most worrying is organisations and especially corporations who yield much power are becoming political and endoring sides when they should stay out of politics because their employees come from both sides. There have been many cases of people being treated unfairly due to expressing their beliefs and political views even losing their jobs.
If we really want to complain about stuff, we should complain about the division of economic classes, and how the rich keep on getting richer, instead of pronouns or race stuff. Ahh, TV shows were much better in 2014 compared to 2024.
Yeah thats something the Left miss and rarely mention. Class has no race or gender. As we see theres a growing number of poor class consisting of all races which is now making up the majority. Working class hardly getting by with inflation. Can't own a home which is a basic right.

While at the same time theres a growing class of elites which contains both blacks and whites, men and women. It seems the Lefts complaints that it was the whites who were oppressing has gone out the window when it comes to class.

Women wanted equality with men so no their are joining the elite men more and more. While at the same time not giving a dam for the many women that are poor. It wasn't about making society equal. Its about women and blacks getting a piece of the actions that whites and males enjoyed at the top.

I heard Michelle Obama speaking about how they represented the common person and could relate to their struggles. Going on about living in poverty. How the Right don't care. This was pretty rich (no pun intended) from the Obamas who have million dollar mansions.
 
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