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I keep sinning. And it's affecting my overactive conscience.
And I feel the need to ask for forgiveness from everyone.
Is this normal?
It doesn't feel normal. I feel the overwhelming need to confess and say the words "forgive me" for sins that even slightly involve another person. I don't know if it's OCD or true conviction, it's hard to tell the difference.
I am discouraged because I read on several websites including one well respected pastors website grace to you, that if we want our weak conscience to get better we have to obey it even if we know it's too strict. Now it seems everything little thing is on my conscience. I know a lot of fear comes with my decision making process but does that really make it OCD or is God just pushing me into a cleaner walk ? I don't want to be self deceived.
 

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Sin wars against us and does beset .
The answer is not should you listen to your weak conscious.
the answer , is
, well, I will let JESUS give the answer just like he did while he was on earth.
NOW go and Sin NO MORE , lest a worse thing come upon you
or go and sin no more.
ALL THINGS are possible IN CHRIST to he or she who belives.
FOR the SON of man came to set the captives free.
HE who is a servant to sin is in bondage.
IN CHRIST all things are possible to he or she who believes.
Why you think paul would also say.........AWAKE to righteousness and SIN NOT
or those who are Christs have crucified the lusts and affections of the flesh
OR let he who names the name of Christ depart from inquity.
We are either a servant of righteousness or a servant of sin.
ALL THINGS are possible to he or she who believes. IN CHRIST who strengthens us.
With might in the inner man, working what is pleasing IN HIS SIGHT
and sin aint pleasing in his sight.
WE HAVE THE POWER by GRACE , by faith in HIM to overcome
and overcomingis not an election , its a command.
Don't let weak men who preach a powerless to overcome gospel , affect your mind anymore.
LET THE SON SET YOU FREE. amen. and I shall pray for you as well.
WE look out for one the other. so awake to righteousness, to Christ and sin not.
 
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I keep sinning. And it's affecting my overactive conscience.
And I feel the need to ask for forgiveness from everyone.
Is this normal?
It doesn't feel normal. I feel the overwhelming need to confess and say the words "forgive me" for sins that even slightly involve another person. I don't know if it's OCD or true conviction, it's hard to tell the difference.
I am discouraged because I read on several websites including one well respected pastors website grace to you, that if we want our weak conscience to get better we have to obey it even if we know it's too strict. Now it seems everything little thing is on my conscience. I know a lot of fear comes with my decision making process but does that really make it OCD or is God just pushing me into a cleaner walk ? I don't want to be self deceived.
I'd say that is the Holy Spirit working in you!! Praise God. It is HIM that brings our sin to the light and we repent...and turn from it/them, asking HIM to empower us by His spirit to overcome. It is not something we can do ourselves...but by the power of God.

Acts 24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men.

Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Ephesians 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
 
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I keep sinning. And it's affecting my overactive conscience.
And I feel the need to ask for forgiveness from everyone.
Is this normal?
It doesn't feel normal. I feel the overwhelming need to confess and say the words "forgive me" for sins that even slightly involve another person. I don't know if it's OCD or true conviction, it's hard to tell the difference.
I am discouraged because I read on several websites including one well respected pastors website grace to you, that if we want our weak conscience to get better we have to obey it even if we know it's too strict. Now it seems everything little thing is on my conscience. I know a lot of fear comes with my decision making process but does that really make it OCD or is God just pushing me into a cleaner walk ? I don't want to be self deceived.
Hi; have you read John chapter 14? :)

Also, John's First Epistle (only five chapters; very clear and wholesome).
 
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Below is a scripture that came to mind, sister, if you would like to meditate on it some. I wasn't given specific discernment about whether it is the OCD or not, but wisdom seems to be saying that if it were the Lord, His Spirit, you would have peace in your heart about it….? But keep praying and seeking the Lord for healing/forgiveness of the bondage…….He is well able, and He is faithful.......ask Him to work in your life to make you truly willing to be healed deep down........ask Him specifically to put His finger on the problem by His word, how HE sees it. Man gives it a name and calls it OCD, but the Lord knows what it is more specifically in truth.......in scripture a bondage is called a snare of the soul, the fowler's snare... and the Lord can set us free indeed, by His Spirit and not by our ability.


It can take time for Him to work in the life of a believer through various ways, the chastisements that He brings to those He loves as sons, for example, in order to help us be truly ready and willing for Him to come into an area of our heart…….as He is also teaching us to trust Him through life and through all these things………the proving of our faith which also means He is proving Himself to us. Fear, or needing to be in control, pride, etc, is our will putting up a barrier preventing the Lord, and usually it requires the cooperation of our will, repentance, deep down, in order for Him to heal us (though sometimes He does heal sovereignly). Let our focus be more on the Lord and less on our own ability to seek & find out our own sins.......understanding that He will go deeper to get at the roots of surface behaviours and sins. Trust Him to be the convicter…..having begun by the Spirit we are not going to now be made perfect by the flesh.........nevertheless our efforts to stop sinning I believe shows the Lord our sincerity and willingness on one level, just that we will not rely on our own efforts alone….and it’s for this reason His Spirit is called the Helper and He has not left us as orphans.


Praying and wishing you all the best in Him….


Ephesians 2:1-10


And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;


Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.


But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,


Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) ;


And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:


That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:


Not of works, lest any man should boast.


For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
 
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Below is a scripture that came to mind, sister, if you would like to meditate on it some. I wasn't given specific discernment about whether it is the OCD or not, but wisdom seems to be saying that if it were the Lord, His Spirit, you would have peace in your heart about it….? But keep praying and seeking the Lord for healing/forgiveness of the bondage…….He is well able, and He is faithful.......ask Him to work in your life to make you truly willing to be healed deep down........ask Him specifically to put His finger on the problem by His word, how HE sees it. Man gives it a name and calls it OCD, but the Lord knows what it is more specifically in truth.......in scripture a bondage is called a snare of the soul, the fowler's snare... and the Lord can set us free indeed, by His Spirit and not by our ability.


It can take time for Him to work in the life of a believer through various ways, the chastisements that He brings to those He loves as sons, for example, in order to help us be truly ready and willing for Him to come into an area of our heart…….as He is also teaching us to trust Him through life and through all these things………the proving of our faith which also means He is proving Himself to us. Fear, or needing to be in control, pride, etc, is our will putting up a barrier preventing the Lord, and usually it requires the cooperation of our will, repentance, deep down, in order for Him to heal us (though sometimes He does heal sovereignly). Let our focus be more on the Lord and less on our own ability to seek & find out our own sins.......understanding that He will go deeper to get at the roots of surface behaviours and sins. Trust Him to be the convicter…..having begun by the Spirit we are not going to now be made perfect by the flesh.........nevertheless our efforts to stop sinning I believe shows the Lord our sincerity and willingness on one level, just that we will not rely on our own efforts alone….and it’s for this reason His Spirit is called the Helper and He has not left us as orphans.


Praying and wishing you all the best in Him….


Ephesians 2:1-10


And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;


Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.


But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,


Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) ;


And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:


That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:


Not of works, lest any man should boast.


For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Great post! :)
 
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Praise the Lord for His goodness and to Him be glory, I pray that it is helpful. I was healed sovereignly of the Lord for certain perceived lacks in childhood......I say perceived, because in truth I lacked nothing because the Lord was with me the whole time, and He loved me, and Him pouring in these truths into my heart and awareness is what healed me. And then another issue I had, regarding my soul being in bondage due to my own sin, listening to a lie and temptation of the devil after I experienced a trauma and tried to "cope" with it.......I came to know this by the Lord alone, His Spirit bringing to light what got buried in darkness and beyond the reach of memory.......I had risen up in anger and pride, and put my hand in the devil's hand essentially....making a "covenant with death", it was a sin akin to witchcraft and that is what put my soul in bondage, not the trauma........the Lord revealed this by His gracious Holy Spirit and I was shocked when He showed me this........and though it took some time and persistence, by repenting, confessing it to Him, He indeed was true to His word and forgave me of my unrighteousness and cleansed me of it, setting my soul free of that snare. HIS word is true, and whatever our problems are we need to seek HIS word about it, and who the SON sets free is free indeed, the Word made flesh. Man tries to understand by his own mind, but the word says that God is not a man that He should lie.....our natural mind and thinking always lies to us, it is always being fed lies by the devil, and because the carnal mind seeks only to justify itself, justifying the sins and errors of our flesh and fallen nature. So we need to seek the mind of Christ, because only the Truth can set us free, and it truly does. Not saying I'm done yet, I'm still a work in progress in another area of my heart and life deeper still..... still more work to do on this journey, but pray that what I have gleaned so far will be of help to others.

Notice that the bible doesn't say we are victims..........no, rather it says we are sinners. If our soul is in bondage truly the fault is only ours alone, we were tempted in the circumstance but it is we who have believed a lie or stepped into the devil's snare by our own will, but praise the Lord for His compassion and mercy to His children. But repentance is the way out........seeking the Lord for the truth about our problem.......then repenting of it fervently, breaking our heart before the Lord, and when we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us of all unrighteousness. This to me is like the best kept secret in Christendom, and may it bless all who hear it. Just seek Him, be obedient to Him in life, carry our cross, humble ourselves under His hand in whatever our circumstances are, and seek Him. Everything we need comes through the cross, as we carry our cross........the cross is the Way.....this is another best kept secret, bless the name of Christ our Saviour.
 
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This is a great question, and there are many wonderful responses posted. Asking for forgiveness is a good thing to do if you've offended someone in some way, and this is inevitably biblical. On the other hand, make sure that you aren't living in condemnation. Romans 8:1 (KJV) "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." God does not intend for us to live feeling condemned because we sin, that's why He died on the cross for us, to take the edge away from sin. God will never make us feel condemned when we have done wrong. I speak from experience when I say it is easy to become "obsessed" after we think we've done something wrong, but don't let that rule your life. He came that we might have "life more abundantly". I also attributed this to my conscience when it happened to me, but I realized it was hurting me more than helping me, and that was not of God (in my case). As the others have said, seek God in prayer and he can definitely help you with this. We all sin, but by the grace of God we can trust in the power of his blood and believe we are forgiven! God bless.
 
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This is a great question, and there are many wonderful responses posted. Asking for forgiveness is a good thing to do if you've offended someone in some way, and this is inevitably biblical. On the other hand, make sure that you aren't living in condemnation. Romans 8:1 (KJV) "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." God does not intend for us to live feeling condemned because we sin, that's why He died on the cross for us, to take the edge away from sin. God will never make us feel condemned when we have done wrong. I speak from experience when I say it is easy to become "obsessed" after we think we've done something wrong, but don't let that rule your life. He came that we might have "life more abundantly". I also attributed this to my conscience when it happened to me, but I realized it was hurting me more than helping me, and that was not of God (in my case). As the others have said, seek God in prayer and he can definitely help you with this. We all sin, but by the grace of God we can trust in the power of his blood and believe we are forgiven! God bless.
Thanks, it's good to know someone else has gone through something similar.
I'm just wondering,for you, when was the point where you stepped back and said , okay this is hurting me, not helping me? See, I know it's hurting me, but I can't shake it, because I read from several people you have to obey, even if your conscience is weak. So how did you move on, how did you get better?
 
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Thanks, it's good to know someone else has gone through something similar.
I'm just wondering,for you, when was the point where you stepped back and said , okay this is hurting me, not helping me? See, I know it's hurting me, but I can't shake it, because I read from several people you have to obey, even if your conscience is weak. So how did you move on, how did you get better?
I am thankful for your post as well, it's nice to know I'm not the only one going through something like this. For me, I realized this was hurting me more than helping because I felt like I was going crazy...I couldn't sleep well, it filled my thoughts all day, I was thinking obsessively all day long. Recently, I took a step back from the situation and said, there is no way that God would put me through something like this. Although I understand I am far from perfect, I had to learn to accept that there is no sin that I can commit that God can't forgive, and we must believe that with all of our hearts in order to be Christians. The difference with us is, I find OCD makes it hard to let go of the past...for example, if I think I've offended someone, I find it extremely hard to let go, even after being forgiven by the person and by God; it would bother me for days and months, maybe even a year. I guess I am currently trying to make my turning point by saying I can either let this control me and ruin my life, or I can take control and leave it with God. Perhaps it is hard for us to accept forgiveness because we don't really deserve it, but it is grace?

I'm not therapist, but I did hear a psychologist once say that the more we intentionally 'try' to forget about whatever is bothering our OCD, the worse it is because we end up giving it more attention. The key is to accept you have those thoughts and behaviours (I.e., thinking you've done wrong always and asking for forgiveness constantly for temporary relief) and not entertain them. Many compare it to a monster, the more you feed it by giving in, the more it takes over; but the less you give in, you don't feed it and it starts to fade. Again, it is good for you to ask forgiveness when you've actually done something wrong to someone, I'm not suggesting not to have a conscience, but for me, I needed to define what is God speaking to me and what is my over-active mind tripping me up. I'm sorry for this long post, but I just wanted to tell you some things that have helped me. I am still going through it, but by the grace of God I am moving forward. I understand what you're going through is super hard and people won't understand, but just know that God is not going to make you live in condemnation, so anything that condemns you is not of God. The bible says "his anger lasts for but a moment, but his mercy endures forever", keep that in mind. Feel free to message me whenever you need, we are all in this together!
 
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I am thankful for your post as well, it's nice to know I'm not the only one going through something like this. For me, I realized this was hurting me more than helping because I felt like I was going crazy...I couldn't sleep well, it filled my thoughts all day, I was thinking obsessively all day long. Recently, I took a step back from the situation and said, there is no way that God would put me through something like this. Although I understand I am far from perfect, I had to learn to accept that there is no sin that I can commit that God can't forgive, and we must believe that with all of our hearts in order to be Christians. The difference with us is, I find OCD makes it hard to let go of the past...for example, if I think I've offended someone, I find it extremely hard to let go, even after being forgiven by the person and by God; it would bother me for days and months, maybe even a year. I guess I am currently trying to make my turning point by saying I can either let this control me and ruin my life, or I can take control and leave it with God. Perhaps it is hard for us to accept forgiveness because we don't really deserve it, but it is grace?

I'm not therapist, but I did hear a psychologist once say that the more we intentionally 'try' to forget about whatever is bothering our OCD, the worse it is because we end up giving it more attention. The key is to accept you have those thoughts and behaviours (I.e., thinking you've done wrong always and asking for forgiveness constantly for temporary relief) and not entertain them. Many compare it to a monster, the more you feed it by giving in, the more it takes over; but the less you give in, you don't feed it and it starts to fade. Again, it is good for you to ask forgiveness when you've actually done something wrong to someone, I'm not suggesting not to have a conscience, but for me, I needed to define what is God speaking to me and what is my over-active mind tripping me up. I'm sorry for this long post, but I just wanted to tell you some things that have helped me. I am still going through it, but by the grace of God I am moving forward. I understand what you're going through is super hard and people won't understand, but just know that God is not going to make you live in condemnation, so anything that condemns you is not of God. The bible says "his anger lasts for but a moment, but his mercy endures forever", keep that in mind. Feel free to message me whenever you need, we are all in this together!
Thanks for sharing. I guess that is my struggle too, to know when it's God speaking or just my mind. I'm glad you are able to make progress, it gives me hope. Will pray for you, and I pray for everyone going through the same.
 
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This sounds like OCD to me. The fact that you recognize that it doesn't feel normal and that there is fear involved are red flags for OCD. Have you struggled with it in other areas in your life? Please choose not to believe the fears. Tsquared had some great things to say in his response. It's true, to fight OCD you have to face up to it, not give in to it. That means that if you recognize that asking forgiveness in a certain circumstance is not normal, you have to refuse to do it, even if your brain is screaming at you to do it. If you keep refusing to give in to OCD, then eventually its impulses will fade. If you have any more questions or concerns, please ask. I've struggled with OCD since I was a child so I've had a lot of experience with it - although I wish I hadn't. :) Don't be afraid to say no to it!
 
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Thanks for sharing. I guess that is my struggle too, to know when it's God speaking or just my mind. I'm glad you are able to make progress, it gives me hope. Will pray for you, and I pray for everyone going through the same.
Glad to be of assistance, there is hope! I will keep you in my prayers, you can overcome!
 
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I want to start with a reassuring analogy: For a rape victim who feels like she somehow committed sin , do you think God would say , "well her conscious believes that she sinned so she did"? No!! Feeling like you sinned as a victim of rape does not mean you sinned, no matter how many times your conscious tells you that you did. Now apply this to ocd. I know the verse says to not act when we have doubt, but ocd is irrational doubt. If your ocd tells you to not shake someone's hand because they could be sick and you could pass it on to someone else, and you realize there's a 1% chance that it could be true, but you decide to shake his hand anyways because you want to defeat the ocd, are you sinning against your conscious because you had doubt but did it anyway? No! Because the doubt in that situation is not the holy spirit convicting you but is instead irrational doubt coming from your ocd.* There is a huge difference.

When the verse says you shouldn't do something if you feel doubt, it means if you aren't spiritually educated enough to know whether something is ok to God, you shouldn't do it until you have faith in what the answer is. Paul is referring to "weaker faith' Christians who were saved but still holding onto their old Jewish roots and couldn't fully believe that Jesus overturned certain Jewish laws. I will explain this more in the next paragraph. Just know doubt in the verse doesn't mean irrational ocd- doubt that you know deep down isn't true, nor does it mean those what-if rabbit holes that ocd uses to convince you away from original assurance you had about a biblical subject. Moreover, When the verse says you shouldn't do something if you feel doubt in your heart, it's also talking about the doubt that comes from the holy spirit meant to convict your conscious.* Doubt from ocd is not the same as doubt that arises from the holy spirit convicting you.

Understand the context/purpose of Romans 14. This passage is talking about subjects that are not defined as sin in the bible, and so these matters are freedoms that are judged by God based on the individual's heart or intention behind it. (Now to clarify, Any sin that is clearly defined as a sin in the new testament is no question, so like even if our heart told us it was ok to have premarital sex because we loved the person, it’s still a sin and we should repent for it.) So Christians can have freedom in certain areas to not be tied down in legalism or man-made dogma if their heart is in the right place without having to worry about sinning, for things not mentioned as sin. Paul gives examples of some types of freedoms, such as Christians in the new covenant being free to eat any kind of food, not having to observe the sabbath or being able to observe it however one wishes, practicing holidays how one wishes, and this can also apply to specific subjects in our culture today that are not defined as sins in the bible and are about our intention.
So what does doubt mean in the Romans 14:23?
Many new believers were ex-pagans and ex-jews who were used to certain rules from their old religion such as not eating certain foods, being required to practice the sabbath, and having other necessary rules/customs in their prior religion. So it would make sense for an ex-jew who used to think that certain meat was unclean to still feel doubtful about eating it when becoming a new christian. Now if a jew-turned christian was told that Jesus allowed eating any food and they believed in that freedom, they have a stronger faith because they are believing in what the bible says, while one who still doubts has a weaker faith (yet still saved) because they didn't have enough trust in God's word to believe the new freedom they were given and instead remained partially succumbed to their old roots. That's why Paul refers to the ones who believe in unnecessary restrictions as having the weaker faith while those who do not doubt their freedom from legalism in Christ have the stronger faith. (Also don't misunderstand, If you know the sabbath isn't required but choose to practice it because you want to yet also don't judge believers who choose not to practice it, that's not weak faith at all; I'm saying those who believe it's still required are weaker in faith because they are relying on their own mindset instead of trusting what God says). If you have looked at all the verses and genuinely come to the conclusion that it is still required, even if it's technically wrong, you should obey, but God can also lead you to stronger faith to realize it's not required, as God wants to strengthen our faith.

(This is a side note so you can skip to the next section if you want: Reading this verse caused me more ocd like you but it also helped answer my question because I know alot of people who genuinely follow God, live in obedience/repentance towards His commands, and they just genuinely interpret a minor part of doctrine differently from what I genuinely intrepret them as- none of us are using our own opinions or compromising the word to suit our own desires, it is both of us coming to different conclusions from God's word. Although I think I'm right and they're wrong, I don't doubt their salvation, especially after reading this passage. What risks your salvation is being a lukewarm believer, which is a christian who may love God but also picks and chooses which commands to follow in order to suit their own sinful desires, and thinking God's grace gives them a free pass to sin. They read verses clearly condemning sins yet they think since nobody can be perfect there's no point in trying to stop or trying to repent. Don't be that person, I used to be and we have to change out from that mindset in order to be saved. We will all be imperfect and God's grace covers our imperfection, so I'm a born again chrisitan who strives to obey and still sometimes fails and God covers me, but God's grace doesn't cover apathetic mindsets towards sins, that's the ponit. Anyways, lukewarm believers are different from the "weak faithed" believers mentioned in this passage- I think weak faithed believers are still saved even if they continue to believe in a man-made rule and follow it. God judges the heart. The lukewarm christian 's heart is not truly following God but is instead choosing their own desires over God's, while the misguided believer who believes in a man-made rule or is unsure about a subject not stated in the bible and obeys what their conscious tells them still shows a heart of following God. Long rant, this doesn't have to do with ocd, I'm just explaining the verse.)

There can also be doubt for the stronger believer as mentioned in the passage- if a believer knows that they have freedom to do something but feels unsure whether they should do it around a weaker believer because it could stumble them, they probably shouldn't do it. That doubt is conviction form the holy spirit. But i will personally say that if you are going down a rabbit hole of irrational what-ifs because you're worried about stumbling a believer in the slightest ways possible is probably ocd. Like if you're worried about possibly stumbling strangers who could hypothetically lust over your face even if you're wearing modest attire and as a result feel like the only no-risk solution is to wear a potato sack and cover your face like the muslims do, that's ocd and not real conviction. In that case, it's good to act against the doubt and show your face, even if you feel guilty for showing your face, as giving into compulsions only worsens ocd- and the doubt is clearly from ocd and not the doubt that comes from moral conviction.

OCD gives us doubt on everything but we have to resist the doubt and live our lives anyway. We should ignore our intrusive thoughts, not give in to compulsions, not feel gulity for God knows these thoughts are not our own, and let it go. Giving in to what our mind tells us to do is a compulsion, and avoiding what our mind tells us to avoid is a compulsion. Acting out compulsions worsens ocd. God will not condemn you for what happens to you against your will. People with tourrettes may cuss against their will, rape victims had sex against their will, possessed people did things against their will, and God doesn't condemn them for it wasn't their own sin. Having sexual intrusive thoughts against your will that are not produced from your one's own feelings but are produced by ocd is like being mind-raped; remember that God does not condemn the rape victim. God judges sin but does not count things against our will as sin. Having doubt can be against one's will as in the case for someone with ocd.

After knowing the context of this verse, I feel like it's not talking about ocd doubt but is talking about real doubt within one's conscious. **OCD is not your real conscious no matter how much it feels like it is.*
  • Here's an example: If i genuinely come to the conclusion that the sabbath is required (even if that's wrong), I should follow it. However, if i genuinely don't think it's required but then my ocd makes me overthink and go down a rabbit hole of "what-if"s to where it's tries to convince me away from the original assurance I had, that's most likely ocd-doubt and not my own consciousness' real doubt.
  • If i know something isn't a sin and got confirmation from God, but then I read Romans 14 and uncontrollably think of what-if rabbit holes that I can't 100% prove, and get hung up on that doubt, although I felt assured beforehand, it's probably my ocd and not the holy spirit convicting me.
Ocd i believe it a whole separate ballgame and is separate from ordinary people doubting a moral concept.

Ocd is the overthinking disease and the doubting disease. It is not coming from one’s own moral compass or one’s own true feelings about a situation, but is coming from the bully in your brain trying to trap you into thinking you did something wrong when you know deep down in your subconscious moral compass that you didn’t. It is hugely different from the holy spirit convicting you.

With ocd it can be hard to tell if its ocd or really you/God, but ask God for discernment so you can be less stressed in life. Ask God to let you know when it's ocd and when its not.

Most of all, Ask Him to give you peace of mind. Remember God promises us a peace of mind that transcends our own human abilities as stated in phil 4:7, so don't try to do this on your own, God can step in when we can't find peace on our own.


(Another thing about the word doubt. Jesus says cut out your eye if it causes you to sin, but this is not literal- it means to remove temptation. We have to take the context of what it means. The bible says to not adorn oneself with expensive clothes or jewelry yet Rebekah and Esther were godly women who wore jewelry and makeup without sin. We have to take the context of what it means.
So when i read romans 14 about not acting when in doubt, i think it means the real spiritual doubt from one's own consious that I stated in this response and not ocd-doubt against our will. I don't think it means every possible kind of doubt but the doubt that fits the purpose of what Paul is explaining.

When we do have ocd, we shouldn't prevent ourselves from living our lives, and shouldn't feel guilty for acting in sight of our doubt. for our doubt is irrational and the only way to get over that doubt is to let it go and ignore it.)
 
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