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I attend a church that believes and practices in speaking in tongues, do any of you attend one like this? If not, what is your stance on speaking in tongues? There are many scriptures that point to a divine language that we speak in that only God Himself can understand (1 Corinthians 14:2), and there is also instances in Acts that mention speaking in another language that you yourself do not know but that others that speak another language can ergo speaking spanish but not knowing spanish.
 

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There are purposes for speaking in tongues such as:
- Builds up our faith and keep ourselves in the love of God. (Jude 1: 20-21)
- Magnifies God. (Acts 10:46)
- pray in The Spirit (I Cor 14:14; Ephesians 6:18; Rom 8:26-27; 1 Corinthians 14:4,15).
- edification either for the believer (I Cor 14:4) or for the church (I Cor 14:5). This is included in the diversities of tongues (I Cor 12;27). There's a book 70 Reasons for Speaking in Tongues by Bill Hamon.

Available to any believer who wants to speak in tongues because when the groups listed in Scripture who received it, it states all received:
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[FONT=&quot]--[/FONT]-On the day of Pentecost in the upper room: "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:4)
2- ---At Cornelius’ house filled with friends and family who were baptized. ”While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God." Acts 10:44-46
3- ---The Disciples of Ephesus "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.” 6”And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve." Acts 19:2

Plus the group that doesn't say all received is on the day of Pentecost, not in the Upper Room, where there were mockers of tongues but some of the 3,000 did (Acts 2:13, 38, 41).

Plus tongues are a sign to unbelievers of believers (I Cor 14:22; Mark 16:17). Forbid not the speaking of tongues (I Cor 14:39).

Ultimately - A gift from Him, for Him.
 
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Acts 2:38 & 39 (NIV)

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

I received the gift at the age of 13 and am now 75 and still use it, praise God.
 
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Wow! That's wonderful.

I don't think fortydaysthree would mind - not trying to derail your thread.

rgleason, I've never talked with anyone who has had this gift for that amount of time. I know we're all different but wondering how has it impacted you the most? Do you speak in tongues frequently? Do you believe it has helped you hear His voice better?
 
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There are purposes for speaking in tongues such as:
- Builds up our faith and keep ourselves in the love of God. (Jude 1: 20-21)
- Magnifies God. (Acts 10:46)
- pray in The Spirit (I Cor 14:14; Ephesians 6:18; Rom 8:26-27; 1 Corinthians 14:4,15).
- edification either for the believer (I Cor 14:4) or for the church (I Cor 14:5). This is included in the diversities of tongues (I Cor 12;27). There's a book 70 Reasons for Speaking in Tongues by Bill Hamon.

Available to any believer who wants to speak in tongues because when the groups listed in Scripture who received it, it states all received:
1[FONT=&quot]--[/FONT]-On the day of Pentecost in the upper room: "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:4)
2- ---At Cornelius’ house filled with friends and family who were baptized. ”While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God." Acts 10:44-46
3- ---The Disciples of Ephesus "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.” 6”And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve." Acts 19:2

Plus the group that doesn't say all received is on the day of Pentecost, not in the Upper Room, where there were mockers of tongues but some of the 3,000 did (Acts 2:13, 38, 41).

Plus tongues are a sign to unbelievers of believers (I Cor 14:22; Mark 16:17). Forbid not the speaking of tongues (I Cor 14:39).

Ultimately - A gift from Him, for Him.



Here's one more verse in regards to speaking in tongues to add to this great list of scriptures:

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
 
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I'm not much for the whole tongue talking experience. I think there are times when God legitimately grants this gift. But I think most of the tongue talking is hogwash. Anyone can say "hobbidy bobbidy boo" and claim that they spoke in tongues.

I think generally the gift of tongues is the ability to utter a foreign language for the purpose of spreading the gospel. We see this in the book of Acts at Pentecost. I think God often gifts missionaries with the ability to learn a foreign language quickly. This is the gift of tongues.

It would also seem that there is a prayer language one can utter. But again I am leery of these experiences and the bible states that tongues should always be interpreted. I can honestly say that I don't believe I've ever seen genuine speaking in tongues. But I think that I've seen some fake instances.
 
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I have been a Christian for over 20 years and have never heard anyone speak in tongues. If it is really something from God and of God then why doesn't it spontaneously occur in all Christian groups and in Christians all over whether they meet in a Christian group or not? Why does it only happen in Christian groups that encourage it and where people see other people doing it?
 
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God clearly said in one of the scriptures above that there is indeed a language that only God can understand. As to why most churches don't speak it, it's because they don't believe in it and/or don't want/seek it. Calling someones' tongues fake is judging and bring up a catholic video is not evidence at all considering their entire belief system is rediculous and corrupt.
 
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God clearly said in one of the scriptures above that there is indeed a language that only God can understand. As to why most churches don't speak it, it's because they don't believe in it and/or don't want/seek it.
So, you have to believe in speaking in tongues in order to do it? You have to seek it in order to do it? It is not a spontaneous thing? Because it seems that in the Bible, it was a spontaneous thing. Why did it change from something that just happened to believers to now being something that one has to believe in and seek?
Speaking in tongues is a "gift" like prophesy and teaching - right? I am not familiar with all of them. Are there other spiritual gifts that you have to believe in and seek in order to experience them?
 
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On the Day of Pentecost, 120 folks were expecting the promise because

" And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. Acts 1:4

5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.?

"But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttemost part of the earth." Acts 1:8

I don't think they knew exactly what the promise would be but they wanted to receive it. "These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren." v 14

and they knew this "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature ...And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;" Mark 16

There's a Scripture that says if you will receive, you can speak in tongues (can't remember the exact wording but will post when I find it). You know, it's like salvation in that Yahweh offers it to us but we can receive it or not.
 
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There's a Scripture that says if you will receive, you can speak in tongues (can't remember the exact wording but will post when I find it). You know, it's like salvation in that Yahweh offers it to us but we can receive it or not.

I'm not sure that tongues are like salvation.

My wife has wanted to speak in tongues for years now, and she is more than ready to receive them, yet she hasn't. She believes that she can speak in tongues, but doesn't.

I believe that not all will speak in tongues and it makes sense that in the beginning years when Christianity was just starting out, there needed to be more people speaking in tongues because they needed to spread throughout the whole world.

These days there are Christians on every continent and not every Christian has the same job for the Kingdom, so some will speak in tongues, others will teach, some will heal, etc...
 
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I have been a Christian for over 20 years and have never heard anyone speak in tongues. If it is really something from God and of God then why doesn't it spontaneously occur in all Christian groups and in Christians all over whether they meet in a Christian group or not? Why does it only happen in Christian groups that encourage it and where people see other people doing it?

1Cor 14:27-28 ESV "If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God."

If there is no one to interpret in the congregation then there should be no spontaneous outburst of tongues as it is not beneficial to anyone without interpretation. Silent use of tongues is between the user and God while a public outpouring of tongues is beneficial when interpreted properly. 1 Cor 14:22 " Thus tongues are a sign not for believers, but for unbelievers,..."
 
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On the Day of Pentecost, 120 folks were expecting the promise because

" And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. Acts 1:4

5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.?

"But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." Acts 1:8

I don't think they knew exactly what the promise would be but they wanted to receive it. "These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren." v 14

and they knew this "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature ...And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;" Mark 16

There's a Scripture that says if you will receive, you can speak in tongues (can't remember the exact wording but will post when I find it). You know, it's like salvation in that Yahweh offers it to us but we can receive it or not.

I do not think there is this verse showing that if you can receive it, you can speak in tongues, but go ahead and show what verse you find for it. There is the phrase like it in places like Jesus saying, if you can receive it, this is Elijah who was to come.

There is the description of biblical tongues, from Yahweh, as opposed to other practices that pass for that of things which were already around within other beliefs, in Acts 2:11 "We hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God." Truly the miraculous was shown from Yahweh, nobody could deny.
 
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The Bible also says that when people meet in church and some speak in tongues it should only be a couple/few that do, and only if there is an interpreter and if no interpreter then they should keep silent. But in churches I have visited there were dozens doing it with no interpreter. None either were speaking in actual languages that other people of different languages understood but in the bible other language speaking people did understand what was being said. If your in a church where dozens or more than a few speak and there is no interpreters, or none keep silent when there is none, or none are in actual other languages, then believe me, by the Bible/Word itself something is very wrong!
 
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