The Origin : Of Sin

[Aviel]

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Reader...

Sin is a literal manifestation of the Carnal or "adamic nature".

By "one man's sin", SIN, = entered into the world and "death by sin" came upon all humans.

But that is not where sin originated......

See, all SIn is , "as rebellion".....

So, that leads to the original Rebel, who was Lucifer. As "iniquity" was first found in Him, before He and the fallen angels were cast out of Heaven

Jesus said that He "beheld Satan fall as Lightning", and the Devil, Satan is an "angel of light",, but its this one .... Luke 11:35

And here is something you need to know.. ....

"Hell was created for the Devil and His Angels"... = BEFORE Adam and Eve were created by God.


So, EVIL..... It means that the original evil is this one..

A.) "father of lies", and a "murderer from the beginning"... and that "beginning" was not God creating Lucifer to be a murderer.. No...That beginning was the beginning of His Pride that became His "iniquity was found in Him"...... so, its in THAT Beginning, inside Lucifer..... where He became a murderer in his heart, and not just that.... but the sin nature.

See that? That is the original evil... That's WHO it came from...... and the way to understand this, is... = The Devil's nature is the sin nature or the "fallen nature".

The "adamic" nature is the Devil's nature, in a human, in all humans.

See, you love to sin, or you use to love to sin, before you were saved, because that is the Devil's nature = "adamic" "fallen".
When you are born again the "old man of sin" .. that fallen nature is "crucified with Christ"

Listen,
When Adam bit the apple, he was now found spiritually kneeling before the Devil's dominion as Adam lost his dominion, and became "fallen"., and the devil took Adam's dominion and He became the "god of this world". And still is, today.

And notice that the Devil is "fallen from Heaven"... so that is more then symbolic, when you factor in that the Fallen nature of man, the Adamic nature, is this...
= Jesus said..."you (all unbelievers) are of YOUR FATHER... (The Devil)... and the LUSTS of your Father, (the Devil) you will Do".

See that?
That is Adam the REBEL become a child of the devil, and this is passed to all of us. as the fallen Adamic nature. or the "sin nature" or the Carnal mind of the Flesh.

So.....How to escape this "father" and all of that?

Jesus said....>"you must be born again".., and water can't do that for you., as "its by my SPIRIT sayeth the Lord".

 

[d taylor]

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Actually the origin of sin is with satan, Adam was the origin of sin for humanity

 

[fhansen]

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Reader...

Sin is a literal manifestation of the Carnal or "adamic nature".

By "one man's sin", SIN, = entered into the world and "death by sin" came upon all humans.

But that is not where sin originated......

See, all SIn is , "as rebellion".....

So, that leads to the original Rebel, who was Lucifer. As "iniquity" was first found in Him, before He and the fallen angels were cast out of Heaven

Jesus said that He "beheld Satan fall as Lightning", and the Devil, Satan is an "angel of light",, but its this one .... Luke 11:35

And here is something you need to know.. ....

"Hell was created for the Devil and His Angels"... = BEFORE Adam and Eve were created by God.


So, EVIL..... It means that the original evil is this one..

A.) "father of lies", and a "murderer from the beginning"... and that "beginning" was not God creating Lucifer to be a murderer.. No...That beginning was the beginning of His Pride that became His "iniquity was found in Him"...... so, its in THAT Beginning, inside Lucifer..... where He became a murderer in his heart, and not just that.... but the sin nature.

See that? That is the original evil... That's WHO it came from...... and the way to understand this, is... = The Devil's nature is the sin nature or the "fallen nature".

The "adamic" nature is the Devil's nature, in a human, in all humans.

See, you love to sin, or you use to love to sin, before you were saved, because that is the Devil's nature = "adamic" "fallen".
When you are born again the "old man of sin" .. that fallen nature is "crucified with Christ"

Listen,
When Adam bit the apple, he was now found spiritually kneeling before the Devil's dominion as Adam lost his dominion, and became "fallen"., and the devil took Adam's dominion and He became the "god of this world". And still is, today.

And notice that the Devil is "fallen from Heaven"... so that is more then symbolic, when you factor in that the Fallen nature of man, the Adamic nature, is this...
= Jesus said..."you (all unbelievers) are of YOUR FATHER... (The Devil)... and the LUSTS of your Father, (the Devil) you will Do".

See that?
That is Adam the REBEL become a child of the devil, and this is passed to all of us. as the fallen Adamic nature. or the "sin nature" or the Carnal mind of the Flesh.

So.....How to escape this "father" and all of that?

Jesus said....>"you must be born again".., and water can't do that for you., as "its by my SPIRIT sayeth the Lord".

The root of sin is the pride of a created being, whether it's Lucifer's or our own. As that pride separates and alienates us from God, and as we all are now born into that alienation, we can continue to carry on the family tradition that Adam initiated or we can come to see the error of that way and turn back to God in humility. That's what faith is all about.

Jesus came to reveal a God truly worth knowing, believing in, hoping in and, most importantly, loving. Once we know and love that God, obedience begins to flow by its nature, of its own accord. Distance from God inevitably results in all sin that followed from the original one. Union with God has the opposite effect; we begin to live and walk justly, now with Him as we were meant to be.

 

[Aviel]

The root of sin is the pride of a created being, whether it's Lucifer's or our own. As that pride separates and alienates us from God, and as we all are now born into that alienation, we can continue to carry on the family t

Lucifer was created before Adam was created.
Lucifer was created before God created the World.
Hell was created for Lucifer and the fallen angles before Adam was created.
Lucifer was cast out of heaven, and was here before Adam was created.

So, the "iniquity" that was "found in Lucifer" was well before Satan tempted Eve.

Sin, Pride, Evil, originated within the Devil before Adam became "adamic nature'., which is the nature of the Devil.

 

[Hawkins]

freewill at the end = humans (angels as well) are given the ability to oppose God. This opposing behavior when measured by Law is called sin.

What being common amongst Eden, Earth and Heaven is that angels are supposed to "live" together with humans, in a form. That is, the much more capable and intelligent angels are supposed to be capable of casting influence onto the less capable and less intelligent humans. This is the establishment of the final Heaven (i.e., New Heaven and New Earth), that's actually the reason why the same setup is found in both Eden and Earth.

By freewill, 1/3 angels will sin (as hinted in the book of Revelation). These angels are the source of casting bad influence to humans as a pushing force for humans to choose to sin against God. Snake as the crafty creature refers to Satan, at the same time it refers to the angelic beings as well, as another fold meaning.

 

[fhansen]

Lucifer was created before Adam was created.
Lucifer was created before God created the World.
Hell was created for Lucifer and the fallen angles before Adam was created.
Lucifer was cast out of heaven, and was here before Adam was created.

So, the "iniquity" that was "found in Lucifer" was well before Satan tempted Eve.

Sin, Pride, Evil, originated within the Devil before Adam became "adamic nature'., which is the nature of the Devil.

Any created being with free will can be tempted to sin, even if the temptation comes from within. Lucifer was just one more weak and foolish being at the end of the day, created good, and with the good gift of free will, but opting for a prideful foolishness that nonetheless resulted in all the moral evil or sin we observe all around, including within ourselves. Self-love is good and healthy, a gift from God. Lucifer abused that gift, loving himself above God. Adam simply chose to follow that same path, too, when tempted, and we can do the same, or not, with the help of grace now. So while Lucifer may've been the first to fall, don't give him too much credit for evil, including your own sin-he really doesn't have to do much.

"...each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death." James 1:14-14

 

[Aviel]

"...each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death." James 1:14-14

Sin starts in the head, manifests in the heart, and is completed as sin, before you do it with your body.

Lust, when its completed, is sin. All in your head and heart.

To look "at a woman" is not sin
To look "upon a woman", is sin, because now the person is having a relation with her, in their imagination, and this is the doing of the deed, already in progress.

Temptation to lust, is not the sin.
The sin begins when the DWELLING On the Lust, has taken your heart.

A.) Guard your heart and your mind will follow.

 

[fhansen]

Sin starts in the head, manifests in the heart, and is completed as sin, before you do it with your body.

Lust, when its completed, is sin. All in your head and heart.

To look "at a woman" is not sin
To look "upon a woman", is sin, because now the person is having a relation with her, in their imagination, and this is the doing of the deed, already in progress.

Temptation to lust, is not the sin.
The sin begins when the DWELLING On the Lust, has taken your heart.

A.) Guard your heart and your mind will follow.

No disagreement here.