The Holy Grail

[OrthodoxyUSA]

I watched The Da Vinci Code last night.

The movie was a twist of meaning on the meaning of The Holy Grail.

Instead of what was "commonly understood" to be the cup that Christ God used at the last supper, became a very presumptuos "bloodline" that Christ God had left through Mary Magdalene. Fiction of course... but doubly so.

As any Orthodox Christian would tell you... the Holy Grail has nothing to do with the "cup" of Christ, but what is in the cup.

It is The Holy Eucharist, the very Body and Blood of Christ that is the fountain of eternal life.

Is this another failing of understanding between East and West?

Seeking to partake of The Holy Eucharist is the goal of every Christian on Earth.

The relics are nothing compared to The Holy Eucharist.

Forgive me....

 

[PaladinValer]

There are two Cups of Christ actually.

The Holy Grail is the vessel that caught Christ's Blood as it poured out of His Body while He hung on the cross.

The Holy Chalice is the vessel that was used during the Last Supper.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

The Holy Grail is the vessel that caught Christ's Blood as it poured out of His Body while He hung on the cross.

Where does this story come from? It is conspicuously absent in the Eastern Church.

Who was standing next to the cross with a cup to catch Christs blood just incase they speared him?

Forgive me....

 

[NeoScribe]

Whats a Holy Eurcharist

 

[Peaceful Dove]

Whats a Holy Eurcharist

It is the most precious Body and Blood of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the Son of God and Second person of the Most Holy Trinity.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

I watched The Da Vinci Code last night.

The movie was a twist of meaning on the meaning of The Holy Grail.

Instead of what was "commonly understood" to be the cup that Christ God used at the last supper, became a very presumptuos "bloodline" that Christ God had left through Mary Magdalene. Fiction of course... but doubly so.

As any Orthodox Christian would tell you... the Holy Grail has nothing to do with the "cup" of Christ, but what is in the cup.

It is The Holy Eucharist, the very Body and Blood of Christ that is the fountain of eternal life.

Is this another failing of understanding between East and West?

Seeking to partake of The Holy Eucharist is the goal of every Christian on Earth.

The relics are nothing compared to The Holy Eucharist.

Forgive me....

 

[prodromos]

I have recently learned that the holy grail currently resides in a small chapel in Spain

John

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Whats a Holy Eurcharist

http://www.oca.org/OCchapter.asp?SID=2&ID=53

Forgive me....

 

[Counter-Reformer]

The whole idea of a Holy Grail doesn't appear until the 13th century with Chretien de Troyes penning the masterpeice "The Romance of Perceval" With Perceval on the trip to find the Holy Grail. In Robert De Boron's version, Joseph of Arimithea uses the Cup of the Last Supper to to the Cross and catch the blood of Christ's pierced sid as it begins to drip.

The Vulgate cycle tells the story of Arthur and His Knight's quest to find the grail. Lancelot and the other grail knights fail horribily. But Sir Galahad, the illigitimate son of Lancelot undertakes the quest himself. Upon finding the Grail, Christ comes down from heaven and himself gives Communion to Galahad before assuming Galahad into heaven.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

The whole idea of a Holy Grail doesn't appear until the 13th century with Chretien de Troyes penning the masterpeice "The Romance of Perceval" With Perceval on the trip to find the Holy Grail. In Robert De Boron's version, Joseph of Arimithea uses the Cup of the Last Supper to to the Cross and catch the blood of Christ's pierced sid as it begins to drip.

The Vulgate cycle tells the story of Arthur and His Knight's quest to find the grail. Lancelot and the other grail knights fail horribily. But Sir Galahad, the illigitimate son of Lancelot undertakes the quest himself. Upon finding the Grail, Christ comes down from heaven and himself gives Communion to Galahad before assuming Galahad into heaven.

The very prototype of the Harlequin Romance Novel. No truth in it, just plain fiction.

Forgive me....

 

[BearerBob]

Where does this story come from? It is conspicuously absent in the Eastern Church.

Who was standing next to the cross with a cup to catch Christs blood just incase they speared him?

Forgive me....

The story is mid 13th century and fictional. There is no grail or chalice.

 

[BearerBob]

I watched The Da Vinci Code last night.

The movie was a twist of meaning on the meaning of The Holy Grail.

Instead of what was "commonly understood" to be the cup that Christ God used at the last supper, became a very presumptuos "bloodline" that Christ God had left through Mary Magdalene. Fiction of course... but doubly so.

As any Orthodox Christian would tell you... the Holy Grail has nothing to do with the "cup" of Christ, but what is in the cup.

It is The Holy Eucharist, the very Body and Blood of Christ that is the fountain of eternal life.

Is this another failing of understanding between East and West?

Seeking to partake of The Holy Eucharist is the goal of every Christian on Earth.

The relics are nothing compared to The Holy Eucharist.

Forgive me....

Perhaps you should try to keep the "every Christian" thing in check.

 

[Windlord]

The very prototype of the Harlequin Romance Novel. No truth in it, just plain fiction.

Forgive me....

You mean like the Story of St. George and the Dragon?

Peace,

Windlord.

 

[Dragons87]

Of course there are the "Holy Grail" and "Holy Chalice". The events happened, so the cup Jesus drank from and the one that collected the blood of Christ (for reasons unknown) must have existed. Only that there is no other mystical value about them.

Jesus rode a donkey into Jerusalem. Has anybody traced the bloodline of the donkey and named the family the "Holy Carrier"? ...coming to think of it, it's rather funny.

Anyway, I think Dan Brown's pretty smart to link San Greal with Sang Real. It takes some imagination to think that up - unless he copied it off somebody else, but in any case it was pretty creative of the person to think that in the first place.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Perhaps you should try to keep the "every Christian" thing in check.

Perhaps you should find out what the center of the Christian Worship Service has always been.

That is to say, Christ God is given to us through The Hoy Eucharist.

You don't understand it, so you discard it.

In this you are standing as your own worst enemy.

Forgive me...

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

You mean like the Story of St. George and the Dragon?

Peace,

Windlord.

You doubt the story of St. George?

Forgive me....

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Of course there are the "Holy Grail" and "Holy Chalice". The events happened, so the cup Jesus drank from and the one that collected the blood of Christ (for reasons unknown) must have existed. Only that there is no other mystical value about them.

Jesus rode a donkey into Jerusalem. Has anybody traced the bloodline of the donkey and named the family the "Holy Carrier"? ...coming to think of it, it's rather funny.

Anyway, I think Dan Brown's pretty smart to link San Greal with Sang Real. It takes some imagination to think that up - unless he copied it off somebody else, but in any case it was pretty creative of the person to think that in the first place.

If a cup was used to collect the Blood of Christ at his crucifixion why do the Churches of the East... Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, and Constantinople not know about it?

Forgive me....

 

[Windlord]

You doubt the story of St. George?

Forgive me....

Is there any particular reason I should believe in dragons and dragonslayers? I'm rather fond of Fantasy and Science Fiction myself, but I do know when to seperate the two.

I do not doubt the power of the story of St. George and the Dragon, just like I do not doubt the power of the story of King Arthur and the Holy Grail. I do know doubt that both have very powerful spiritual messages that ring truer than most factual stories. But both of them are what they are. Legend and Myth. I believe that there was an original Arthur, and I bet there was probably also an original George. But I seriously doubt that either of them went through the various adventures that are portrayed in the stories that others have written about them.

Peace,

Windlord.

 

[a_ntv]

Holy Grail...

I have never been teached by catholics about Holy Grail. You dont find it in Church writings

Holy Grail stories and books were for the Middle Age people like 'da vinci code' is for XXI century people: finction, only dummy finction that uses religious subjects to sell more.

 

[Dragons87]

If a cup was used to collect the Blood of Christ at his crucifixion why do the Churches of the East... Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, and Constantinople not know about it?

Forgive me....

Oh. I don't know. I'm saying, even if the cup did exist, it doesn't mean anything...or...the guy who collected it literally drank it to get salvation or something...ew.... whatever.

But the cup that Jesus drank from did exist. It just did.