Snared

[Dead Eye]

Snare​

Two Commandments of God

Mat 22:37 KJV "Jesus said unto him, you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind." Mat 22:38 KJV "This is the first and greatest commandment." Mat 22:39 KJV "And the second is like unto it, you shall love your neighbor as yourself." Mat 22:40 KJV "On these two commandments hang all the law (Col 2:14,15) and the prophets." Rom 10:9-13 Eph 2:9-11

• Isa 5:20 KJV "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
• Isa 30:10 KJV "Which say to the seers, see not; and to the prophets, prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:"
• Jhn 8:44 KJV "You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Snare=trapping device such as a trick or temptation

Tricking of Eve

2Co 11:3 KJV "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."

Gen 3:1 KJV "Now the serpent (possessed by Lucifer) was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, yes, has God said, you shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" Gen 3:2 KJV "And the woman said unto the serpent, we may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:" Gen 3:3 KJV "But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, you shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die." Gen 3:4 KJV "And the serpent said unto the woman, you shall not surely die:" Gen 3:5 KJV "For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." Gen 3:6 KJV "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." Gen 3:7 KJV "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."

• Mat 27:4 KJV "Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, “What is that to us? see you to that." Mat 27:5 KJV "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself."
• 2Ti 3:5 KJV "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." 2Ti 3:6 KJV "For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers (different) lusts," 2Ti 3:7 KJV "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2Ti 3:8 KJV "Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith." 2Ti 3:9 KJV "But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was."
• Exo 23:33 KJV "They shall not dwell in your land, lest they make you sin against me: for if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto you."
• 1Co 7:35 KJV "And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that you may attend upon the Lord without distraction."
• 1Ti 3:7 KJV "Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil."
• 1Ti 6:9 KJV "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition."

Power of Christ is the Answer to the Snare (Rom 1:16, 1Cor 1:18)

2Ti 2:23-26 KJV "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes’ (divisions)." 2Ti 2:24 KJV "And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient," 2Ti 2:25 KJV "In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;" 2Ti 2:26 KJV "And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."

• 1Co 10:13 KJV "There has no temptation taken you, but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it."
• 1Th 3:5 KJV "For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labor be in vain."
• Luk 14:29 KJV "Lest haply, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him," Luk 14:30 KJV "Saying, this man began to build, and was not able to finish."
• 1Co 9:23 KJV "And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you." 1Co 9:24 KJV "Know you not that they which run in a race run all, but one receives the prize (Rom 14:10 2Cor 5:10)? So run, that you may obtain." 1Co 9:25 KJV "And every man that strives for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible." 1Co 9:26 KJV "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beats the air:" 1Co 9:27 KJV "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway (stranded)."

The Wiles of the Devil

Wiles=Devious or cunning strategies employed in manipulating or persuading someone to do what one wants

Eph 6:11 NKJV "Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles (trick to deceive) of the devil." Eph 6:12 NKJV "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness (Eph 2:2,3 Col 3:6) in the heavenly places."

• Job 8:13 KJV "So are the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrite's hope shall perish:" Job 8:14 KJV "Whose hope shall be cut off, and whose trust shall be a spider's web." Job 8:15 KJV "He shall lean upon his house, but it shall not stand he shall hold it fast, but it shall not endure."
• Rom 13:12 KJV "The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light." Rom 13:13 KJV "Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying." Rom 13:14 KJV "But put you on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof."
• 1Co 10:12 KJV "Wherefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." 1Co 10:13 KJV "There has no temptation taken you, but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it." 1Co 10:14 KJV "Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry."
• 2Co 2:11 KJV "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us (Christians): for we are not ignorant of his devices."
• Isa 59:5 KJV "They (Isa 59:1-21) hatch cockatrice' (viper snake James 3:8) eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eats of their eggs dies (Rev 20:13-15), and that which is crushed breaks out into a viper." Chapter Matt 23
• 2Co 4:3 KJV "But if our gospel be hidden, it is hid to them that are lost:" 2Co 4:4 KJV "In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image (Heb 1:1-3) of God, should shine unto them."
• 1Pe 5:6 KJV "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:" 1Pe 5:7 KJV "Casting all your care upon him; for he cares for you." 1Pe 5:8 KJV "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour:" 1Pe 5:9 KJV "Whom resist steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world."
• Pro 20:25 KJV "It is a snare to the man who devours that which is holy, and after vows to make enquiry."

Denominational Entrapment, Rejection, and Apostasy

This is Rejection of Christ through denominational emotionalism. The truths such as principles of Christ, faith toward God, Resurrection, and Eternal Judgment are Christian Doctrines. Mixed along with emotional denominational beliefs such as perfection, repentance from dead works, baptisms, and laying on of hands.

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works (denominational) and of faith toward God, Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms (denominational), and of laying on of hands, (gift no longer used-denominational uses) and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Heb 6:3 And this will we do (continue with), if God permit (allow). (Revelation 2&3 Denominationalism)

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened (informed), and have tasted (sampled is not accepting) of the heavenly gift (Jesus), and were made partakers (to participate with like going on a date) of the Holy Ghost,

Heb 6:5 And have tasted (sampled emotionally excited denominational) the good word of God, and the powers of the (New) world to come (having some knowledge of prophecy),

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away (denominationalism starts with gradually less excited), to renew them again (bring back) unto repentance (changing of their mind); seeing they (would) crucify to themselves (for the emotional excitement) the Son of God afresh (do it all again for emotional pleasure), and put him (Jesus) to an open (public) shame (worthlessness).

The House of the Unclean Spirit

Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says I will return unto my house whence I came out. Luk 11:25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and garnished. Luk 11:26 Then goes he (unclean spirit) , and take (asks) to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself (unclean spirit); and they (eight unclean spirits) enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Luke 11:24-28 This is an Old Testament Verse

Jesus was still in his ministry explaining the worthlessness of self reformation or moral denominationalism 2Pet 2:17-22. along with Rev 2&3.

 

[David Lamb]

Snare​

Two Commandments of God

Mat 22:37 KJV "Jesus said unto him, you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind." Mat 22:38 KJV "This is the first and greatest commandment." Mat 22:39 KJV "And the second is like unto it, you shall love your neighbor as yourself." Mat 22:40 KJV "On these two commandments hang all the law (Col 2:14,15) and the prophets." Rom 10:9-13 Eph 2:9-11

• Isa 5:20 KJV "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
• Isa 30:10 KJV "Which say to the seers, see not; and to the prophets, prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:"
• Jhn 8:44 KJV "You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Snare=trapping device such as a trick or temptation

Tricking of Eve

2Co 11:3 KJV "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."

Gen 3:1 KJV "Now the serpent (possessed by Lucifer) was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, yes, has God said, you shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" Gen 3:2 KJV "And the woman said unto the serpent, we may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:" Gen 3:3 KJV "But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, you shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die." Gen 3:4 KJV "And the serpent said unto the woman, you shall not surely die:" Gen 3:5 KJV "For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." Gen 3:6 KJV "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." Gen 3:7 KJV "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."

• Mat 27:4 KJV "Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, “What is that to us? see you to that." Mat 27:5 KJV "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself."
• 2Ti 3:5 KJV "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." 2Ti 3:6 KJV "For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers (different) lusts," 2Ti 3:7 KJV "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2Ti 3:8 KJV "Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith." 2Ti 3:9 KJV "But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was."
• Exo 23:33 KJV "They shall not dwell in your land, lest they make you sin against me: for if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto you."
• 1Co 7:35 KJV "And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that you may attend upon the Lord without distraction."
• 1Ti 3:7 KJV "Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil."
• 1Ti 6:9 KJV "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition."

Power of Christ is the Answer to the Snare (Rom 1:16, 1Cor 1:18)

2Ti 2:23-26 KJV "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes’ (divisions)." 2Ti 2:24 KJV "And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient," 2Ti 2:25 KJV "In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;" 2Ti 2:26 KJV "And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."

• 1Co 10:13 KJV "There has no temptation taken you, but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it."
• 1Th 3:5 KJV "For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labor be in vain."
• Luk 14:29 KJV "Lest haply, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him," Luk 14:30 KJV "Saying, this man began to build, and was not able to finish."
• 1Co 9:23 KJV "And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you." 1Co 9:24 KJV "Know you not that they which run in a race run all, but one receives the prize (Rom 14:10 2Cor 5:10)? So run, that you may obtain." 1Co 9:25 KJV "And every man that strives for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible." 1Co 9:26 KJV "I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beats the air:" 1Co 9:27 KJV "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway (stranded)."

The Wiles of the Devil

Wiles=Devious or cunning strategies employed in manipulating or persuading someone to do what one wants

Eph 6:11 NKJV "Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles (trick to deceive) of the devil." Eph 6:12 NKJV "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness (Eph 2:2,3 Col 3:6) in the heavenly places."

• Job 8:13 KJV "So are the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrite's hope shall perish:" Job 8:14 KJV "Whose hope shall be cut off, and whose trust shall be a spider's web." Job 8:15 KJV "He shall lean upon his house, but it shall not stand he shall hold it fast, but it shall not endure."
• Rom 13:12 KJV "The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light." Rom 13:13 KJV "Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying." Rom 13:14 KJV "But put you on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof."
• 1Co 10:12 KJV "Wherefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." 1Co 10:13 KJV "There has no temptation taken you, but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it." 1Co 10:14 KJV "Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry."
• 2Co 2:11 KJV "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us (Christians): for we are not ignorant of his devices."
• Isa 59:5 KJV "They (Isa 59:1-21) hatch cockatrice' (viper snake James 3:8) eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eats of their eggs dies (Rev 20:13-15), and that which is crushed breaks out into a viper." Chapter Matt 23
• 2Co 4:3 KJV "But if our gospel be hidden, it is hid to them that are lost:" 2Co 4:4 KJV "In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image (Heb 1:1-3) of God, should shine unto them."
• 1Pe 5:6 KJV "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:" 1Pe 5:7 KJV "Casting all your care upon him; for he cares for you." 1Pe 5:8 KJV "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour:" 1Pe 5:9 KJV "Whom resist steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world."
• Pro 20:25 KJV "It is a snare to the man who devours that which is holy, and after vows to make enquiry."

Denominational Entrapment, Rejection, and Apostasy

This is Rejection of Christ through denominational emotionalism. The truths such as principles of Christ, faith toward God, Resurrection, and Eternal Judgment are Christian Doctrines. Mixed along with emotional denominational beliefs such as perfection, repentance from dead works, baptisms, and laying on of hands.

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works (denominational) and of faith toward God, Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms (denominational), and of laying on of hands, (gift no longer used-denominational uses) and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Heb 6:3 And this will we do (continue with), if God permit (allow). (Revelation 2&3 Denominationalism)

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened (informed), and have tasted (sampled is not accepting) of the heavenly gift (Jesus), and were made partakers (to participate with like going on a date) of the Holy Ghost,

Heb 6:5 And have tasted (sampled emotionally excited denominational) the good word of God, and the powers of the (New) world to come (having some knowledge of prophecy),

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away (denominationalism starts with gradually less excited), to renew them again (bring back) unto repentance (changing of their mind); seeing they (would) crucify to themselves (for the emotional excitement) the Son of God afresh (do it all again for emotional pleasure), and put him (Jesus) to an open (public) shame (worthlessness).

The House of the Unclean Spirit

Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says I will return unto my house whence I came out. Luk 11:25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and garnished. Luk 11:26 Then goes he (unclean spirit) , and take (asks) to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself (unclean spirit); and they (eight unclean spirits) enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Luke 11:24-28 This is an Old Testament Verse

Jesus was still in his ministry explaining the worthlessness of self reformation or moral denominationalism 2Pet 2:17-22. along with Rev 2&3.

Your quote of Hebrews 6:1-2 is incomplete. You quote it as saying, "Therefore leaving aside the principles of the doctrine of Christ......" where as it actually says:

“1 ¶ Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary [principles] of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.” (Heb 6:1-2 NKJV)

He's not saying that the principles he mentions are wrong, just that the Hebrew believers seemed content with the elementary teachings, rather than seeking to go on deeper. So nothing to do with "denominationalism" - after all, denominations as we know them didn't exist when those words were written.

 

[Dead Eye]

Your quote of Hebrews 6:1-2 is incomplete. You quote it as saying, "Therefore leaving aside the principles of the doctrine of Christ......" where as it actually says:

“1 ¶ Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary [principles] of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.” (Heb 6:1-2 NKJV)

He's not saying that the principles he mentions are wrong, just that the Hebrew believers seemed content with the elementary teachings, rather than seeking to go on deeper. So nothing to do with "denominationalism" - after all, denominations as we know them didn't exist when those words were written.

 

[Dead Eye]

These groups parallel denominationalism today.
Galileans, Herodians, Levites, Pharisees, Publicans, Sadducees, Samaritans, Sanhedrins, Scribes, and Zealots grouped to gether and paralleled different denominational church systems of today.

 

[Dead Eye]

Your quote of Hebrews 6:1-2 is incomplete. You quote it as saying, "Therefore leaving aside the principles of the doctrine of Christ......" where as it actually says:

“1 ¶ Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary [principles] of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.” (Heb 6:1-2 NKJV)

He's not saying that the principles he mentions are wrong, just that the Hebrew believers seemed content with the elementary teachings, rather than seeking to go on deeper. So nothing to do with "denominationalism" - after all, denominations as we know them didn't exist when those words were written.

These groups parallel the denominational systems of today Galileans, Herodians, Levites, Pharisees, Publicans, Sadducees, Samaritans, Sanhedins, Scribes, and Zealots (this is besides the Jewish Temple).

 

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[Legion7777777]

Its not incomplete, youre just using the NKJV.

 

[David Lamb]

Its not incomplete, youre just using the NKJV.

Of the 30 English translations to which I have access, 27 include a word like "elementary" or "first". It's not just the NKJV.

 

[Legion7777777]

Of the 30 English translations to which I have access, 27 include a word like "elementary" or "first". It's not just the NKJV.

Alright you build me a Doctrine based on your two words "elementary" or "first" that will create a chain reference to what this verse means. use all 30 bibles you have access to and see where it leads you. I will use one (KJV) and the let the Bible interpret itself......

 

[Legion7777777]

Of the 30 English translations to which I have access, 27 include a word like "elementary" or "first". It's not just the NKJV.

all denominations fight the KJV bible, Why? They have to use their own translated bibles to fit whatever Doctrine of men they are using. If they would just stick to the KJV the truth would be known. Use whatever of the 30 translations you want and it will only tie you into a knot.
2 Timothy 2:15 KJV — Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
You have to let the bible interpret itself, do that by creating chain verses.

 

[David Lamb]

Alright you build me a Doctrine based on your two words "elementary" or "first" that will create a chain reference to what this verse means. use all 30 bibles you have access to and see where it leads you. I will use one (KJV) and the let the Bible interpret itself......

Well, we don't need a chain of references. The previous chapter (and of course the chapter divisions are not part of God's inspired Word) ends with the writer comparing what he calls the "milk" of the word to "solid food":

“12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need [someone] to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes [only] of milk [is] unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, [that is], those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.” (Heb 5:12-14 NKJV)

Incidentally, in that quote, the KJV, like the NKJV, has "first principals"). The very next words are the first two verses of chapter 6.

 

[Legion7777777]

Well, we don't need a chain of references. The previous chapter (and of course the chapter divisions are not part of God's inspired Word) ends with the writer comparing what he calls the "milk" of the word to "solid food":

“12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need [someone] to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes [only] of milk [is] unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, [that is], those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.” (Heb 5:12-14 NKJV)

Incidentally, in that quote, the KJV, like the NKJV, has "first principals"). The very next words are the first two verses of chapter 6.

Jesus Christ himself was a walking chain reference. Most all of his teachings point back to the Old Testament. If you want to cherry pick verses and let them say whatever you assume then dont back them with verses.

By plugging verses into a verse is how the story is told. You cant just take a verse and put your own twist on it. Every single verse in the bible will be backed by another verse in the bible. The bible has to interpret itself. Thats going from the "Milk" to the "Meat"

Tell me what the bible says. Not some teaching done by some man thats called himself into service. IYouve got that verse so twisted up it doesnt make sense anymore. I dont want your spin on the verse. I want what the Bible says it means.Gods not the author of confusion.

 

[Legion7777777]

Well, we don't need a chain of references. The previous chapter (and of course the chapter divisions are not part of God's inspired Word) ends with the writer comparing what he calls the "milk" of the word to "solid food":

“12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need [someone] to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes [only] of milk [is] unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, [that is], those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.” (Heb 5:12-14 NKJV)

Incidentally, in that quote, the KJV, like the NKJV, has "first principals"). The very next words are the first two verses of chapter 6.

Oracle (Prophet) of God

 

[David Lamb]

Jesus Christ himself was a walking chain reference. Most all of his teachings point back to the Old Testament. If you want to cherry pick verses and let them say whatever you assume then dont back them with verses.

By plugging verses into a verse is how the story is told. You cant just take a verse and put your own twist on it. Every single verse in the bible will be backed by another verse in the bible. The bible has to interpret itself. Thats going from the "Milk" to the "Meat"

Tell me what the bible says. Not some teaching done by some man thats called himself into service. IYouve got that verse so twisted up it doesnt make sense anymore. I dont want your spin on the verse. I want what the Bible says it means.Gods not the author of confusion.

But I did say what the bible says. You say that every single verse in the bible will be backed by another verse in the bible. I would say yes, of course. Especially by the context, which is what I showed. The previous words at the end of the previous chapter mention "first principles" and "milk". So when the very next words talk of principles to be laid aside, it is surely those same first principles, especially when you remember that the writer did not split Hebrews up onto verses and chapters.

 

[Legion7777777]

But I did say what the bible says. You say that every single verse in the bible will be backed by another verse in the bible. I would say yes, of course. Especially by the context, which is what I showed. The previous words at the end of the previous chapter mention "first principles" and "milk". So when the very next words talk of principles to be laid aside, it is surely those same first principles, especially when you remember that the writer did not split Hebrews up onto verses and chapters.