Should Columbus day be replaced with Leif Erikson day?

[Rubiks]

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[tstor]

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I would say yes if Mr. Erikson wasn't so tightlipped.

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

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[GoldenBoy89]

Hinga Dinga Durgen!

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This was the first thing that came to my mind.

High five!

 

[majj27]

If it means either joyously shouting Old Norse at one another or singing about SPAM, I'd support EVERY DAY being replaced with Leif Erikson Day.

 

[Rion]

 

[essentialsaltes]

Here in Los Angeles (and many other locations), it is Indigenous Peoples' Day.

 

[cow451]

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

No, because according to the Greenlander Saga, the new lands of Vinland were discovered by Bjarni Herjolfsson.

Leif just led the attempted colonisation thereof, thus the Pizzaro or Cortes to Bjarni's Columbus.

 

[majj27]

ALL HAIL BJARNI!!!

That's actually even better.

 

[Douger]

Yes, because it was Leif Erikson and not Columbus whose voyage opened the Americas to European exploration and colonization.

Just kidding. What's the point of this question?

 

[majj27]

Just kidding. What's the point of this question?

That vikings are neat.

 

[essentialsaltes]

That vikings are neat.

(looks like YouTube has taken down the Zep audio.)

 

[SummerMadness]

Here in Los Angeles (and many other locations), it is Indigenous Peoples' Day.

I think this would be a good change.

But since October 9, 1825, it's been a thing, so I say go with Leif Erikson Day too. You can always celebrate multiple holidays/observances on the same day.

 

[mark46]

Lief Erikson was definitely not the first European documented to have founded a colony in North America. That would be his father, Eric the Red, who founded Greenland.

Leif Eriksson - Exploration - HISTORY.com

If we use the Columbus test, (he was here but no colony), there are others who might have come earlier. There are tale of Irishmen coming earlier and Phoenicians.
Obviously, there were Asians much before that. Somehow, Asian immigrants/settlers are "native" or "indigenous"

For a more complete list, see below

Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact theories - Wikipedia

 

[lasthero]

Somehow, Asian immigrants/settlers are "native" or "indigenous"

If they're not, who would be? Every place on the Earth didn't have humans before humans got there.

 

[cow451]

Lief Erikson was definitely not the first European documented to have founded a colony in North America. That would be his father, Eric the Red, who founded Greenland.

Leif Eriksson - Exploration - HISTORY.com

If we use the Columbus test, (he was here but no colony), there are others who might have come earlier. There are tale of Irishmen coming earlier and Phoenicians.

Obviously, there were Asians much before that. Somehow, Asian immigrants/settlers are "native" or "indigenous"

Ther is also the story of Vladimir the Red crossing from Russia and defeating Erik the Red in the Battle of Vodka.

 

[mark46]

If they're not, who would be? Every place on the Earth didn't have humans before humans got there.

Humanity started in Africa (Garden Of Eden?) and spread.

North America was a relatively late area to be settled. Human aren't indigenous to any area other than Africa, and perhaps the Middle East. One can take any date and call everyone there at that point as being "native". For example, one could arbitrarily use 8,000 BC, or a later date, or an earlier date.

 

[SummerMadness]

Immigrants is not interchangeable with settlers.

And the people that traveled across the Bering Strait land bridge are not settlers, they did not leave Asia to settle North America, they were a nomadic society that traveled into North America and maintained their traditional way of life (of course evolving over time).

 

[mark46]

I disagree.

I think the Eric the Red maintained his European Norse way of life.

Puritans came to do precisely that. They could not do that at home.

You seem to want to draw the line at whether the settlers came after the development of cities. That's reasonable.

Immigrants is not interchangeable with settlers.

And the people that traveled across the Bering Strait land bridge are not settlers, they did not leave Asia to settle North America, they were a nomadic society that traveled into North America and maintained their traditional way of life (of course evolving over time).