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In fact, I find moral fault with those who want to engineers ways by which we chemically and genetically grow and/or modify our food sources in ways that are not in line with the typical structures of nature.
It can and is. The carrying capacity of the agriculture system and struggle to find enough organic sources of fertilizer prior to the arrival of the Haber–Bosch process is testament to that.I don't think the answer to global hunger is to reduce the standard of living of us meat-eaters. Besides the efficacy of animal manures as fertilizer cannot be overstated.
If this is your objection your argument is against agriculture it self regardless of what kind of seed or pesticide is used.
============================================Organic farming is less productive than conventional farming, requiring more land and labor for smaller yields. It also increases the cost of food substantially.
============================================Of course this is bad for the poor of the world who need more, and cheaper, food.
============================================So, should Christians avoid organic foods in favor of conventionally produced foods?
What portions of what I have said are specifically "against" agriculture in your opinion?
It can and is. The carrying capacity of the agriculture system and struggle to find enough organic sources of fertilizer prior to the arrival of the Haber–Bosch process is testament to that.
I don't think they can genetically modify foods, it's a hoax to get the masses to believe they can "create" and "patent" life and to control food supply. For an example, Monsanto can sue organic farmers into oblivion due to cross pollination.
How can farmland be "addicted" to chemicals?Much of our farmland is "addicted" to these chemicals. It would take years to return to sensible farming practices.
How can farmland be "addicted" to chemicals?
And you believe this is a hoax based on what?
Im sorry it has cut off your malthusian desires.A process driven by the need to produce the wrong kinds of foods for an overpopulated world, and to fulfill the desire to make life easier for a lazy, ignorant population. Chemicalized agriculture is arguably the greatest man made disaster in the history of the world.
Im sorry it has cut off your malthusian desires.
Inasmuch as Christians in the west aren't buying up all that cheap food and sending it to those starving people anyway, it makes no difference.
I don't think the additional processing and chemicals have zero biological effect, and the concept of "organic food" covers a wide range of commercial practices, some of which are not disputable.
I don't know if insecticides kill nutrients -- nutrients are basically chemicals, so there is nothing to kill. The "addiction" you describe is myth.Chemicals kill the soil life. Minerals like potash and phosphorus are treated with acid to make them water soluble. The acid kills microbes necessary for natural fertility and plant health. Thus the soil needs these fertilizers in order to produce a crop. In fact it is the initial death, decomposition, and absorption of these microbes that gives 'first time' fields a large boost in production; production that declines quickly in subsequent years requiring yet more chemicals.
If the chemicals are suspended little will grow on land so treated, although coarse grasses and weeds will likely appear; nature's healing process. Once the natural fertility is lost it isn't easily restored.
I don't know if insecticides kill nutrients -- nutrients are basically chemicals, so there is nothing to kill. The "addiction" you describe is myth.
What gets rid of the nutrients is growing the same crop over and over on the land, and plowing the field in such a way that water causes the top soil to erode.
1. Change plowing techniques
2. Rotate crops
3. Add fertilizer if necessary
Sounds like youre coming around to the idea that Christians (and everybody else) should get on board with organic farming asap so we can get back on a sustainable track.Malthus didn't 'desire' that the world starve, nor do I. Nor did he envision today's agriculture, which certainly set the doomsday clock ahead for a time......time that is running out, again.
Sounds like youre coming around to the idea that Christians (and everybody else) should get on board with organic farming asap so we can get back on a sustainable track.
Sounds like youre coming around to the idea that Christians (and everybody else) should get on board with organic farming asap so we can get back on a sustainable track.
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