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Shacking Up?

Krysstian

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:confused: Now I realize a majority of believers who see couples living together that are not married calls it “shacking up.” Where did “shacking up” come from and where in the bible does it say when a man and a woman live together it’s consider a sin? Now if they are fornicating that’s another story but what difference does it make if they live together or not. They are going to have sex regardless where they live. If couples live together do you think it will hinder God blessings and/or leave a leeway for Satan to come in and destroy their relationship?
 

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Living with someone.

We must refrain from all appearances of evil.

Living with someone implies: Genesis 24:67 And Isaac brought Rebekah into his mothers tent, and she became his wife. He loved her very much, and she was a special comfort to him after the death of his mother.

Ruth 3:1-18 ...After Boaz finished his meal and was in good spirits, he lay down beside the heap of grain and went to sleep. Then Ruth came quietly, uncovered his feet, and lay down. Around midnight, Boaz suddenly woke up and turned over. He was suprised to find a woman lying at his feet! ...I will do what is necessary, for everyone in town knows you are an honorable woman...So Ruth lay at Boaz's feet until morning, but she got up before it was light enough for people to recognize each other. For Boaz said, "No one must know that a woman was here at the threshing floor"...


Now there is a difference between letting a guest stay at your home, whether male or female. For in a home, the entire family is there- providing you protection.

Marriage is the reason for a man and woman to live together.

For it is written, "At last! Adam exclaimed. "She is part of my own flesh and bone! She will be called, 'woman,' because she was taken out of a man." This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one." Genesis 2:23-24

(s#x outside of marriage is a sin. Thou shalt not commit adultery- which is having s#x with someone who is already married.

Thou shalt not covet. Wanting someone or thing that does not belong to you. So much so that it leads to this-

Thou shalt not steal.

First off you do not belong to yourself. You belong to God. Second you belong to your father and mother they are your protection until marriage.)

God be with you.
 
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holo

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Treasurer said:
We must refrain from all appearances of evil.
But living together doesn't seem "evil" to others than very old-fashioned mistakenly fundamentalist christians and others who for some reason assume that people won't have sex unless they live together, and that they must have sex if they do :)

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With all due respect... are you serious?

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First off you do not belong to yourself. You belong to God. Second you belong to your father and mother they are your protection until marriage.)
Well, some people don't get married until they are in, say, their fourties...
 
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Dragnog said:
I have one question: If they are living together - why is it that they can not get married?
I dunno, could be a host of reasons. For example, my GF recently moved to my city, and while waiting for her own apartment to get ready, she lived with me for about three weeks. Very practical.
 
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Krysstian said:
:confused: Now I realize a majority of believers who see couples living together that are not married calls it “shacking up.” Where did “shacking up” come from and where in the bible does it say when a man and a woman live together it’s consider a sin? Now if they are fornicating that’s another story but what difference does it make if they live together or not. They are going to have sex regardless where they live. If couples live together do you think it will hinder God blessings and/or leave a leeway for Satan to come in and destroy their relationship?
Fornication and shacking up are the same thing. After marriage, it is adultery. Fornication is sin because God instituted marriage. It speaks against fornication in The Book Of Leviticus plus other places. Use the concordance of your Bible for other scriptures. If yours doesn't have a concordance, get a Bible that does. The concordance can be used to find God's solution to every problem you can name.
 
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Krysstian said:
:confused: Now I realize a majority of believers who see couples living together that are not married calls it “shacking up.” Where did “shacking up” come from and where in the bible does it say when a man and a woman live together it’s consider a sin? Now if they are fornicating that’s another story but what difference does it make if they live together or not. They are going to have sex regardless where they live. If couples live together do you think it will hinder God blessings and/or leave a leeway for Satan to come in and destroy their relationship?
Yes, because its the "appearance of evil" and people will assume with confidence that your shacking up - especially in this day and age.

We are fooling ourselves somewhat to think that no sex will happen - biology is very strong and the temptation is there. So, why live together with no marriage? What the intent?
 
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I have to agree with holo on this one. If I found mysrlf in the same situation as he did, I would have no qualms about letting my girlfriend staynover for three weeks.

In my opinion it is perfectly allright to live in the same house as long as sin does not take place.

With this, however, I have three cautions.

1: Don't do this simply for the sake of liveing togeather. As one person mentioned, there is great temptation in this situation. Don't needlessly put yourself in a tempting situation.

2: Don't do this unless you know yourself well enough that you know that you can resist the temptation.

3: Don't do this if you live in a culture where this is unacceptable. This is where the apearence of evil comes into play.
 
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Apparently people like those gray areas.

So then is it also alright to sleep together in the same bed, even if sex doesnt take place?

(Halo: on one of the other message boards they dont allow you to spell out sex or any other questionable word. Didnt know if it was ok here. Wouldnt want to be a stumbling block for others).

I will just leave it with my personal convictions. I wouldnt "live" with a man. Because as a woman I wouldnt want all eyes focused on me. I am suppose to be set apart and holy, and to me, this gives the appearance of sin nature. How can I be a good witness to others if it looks like I have blatent sin in my life.
 
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Treasurer said:
So then is it also alright to sleep together in the same bed, even if sex doesnt take place?
Yes, I don't know why sharing a bed would be wrong.

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I will just leave it with my personal convictions. I wouldnt "live" with a man. Because as a woman I wouldnt want all eyes focused on me. I am suppose to be set apart and holy, and to me, this gives the appearance of sin nature. How can I be a good witness to others if it looks like I have blatent sin in my life.
You have my respect for that, absolutely. Though I don't think you'd look like you'd be doing anything "sinful" to others than some christians. Depending on where you live and such, of course.
 
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Yes it is wrong. And you are right holo it doesn't matter if you are living together or not, you might still have sex and if you do you are still fornicating..So then you can say in God's eyes both are wrong. But with your concern, yes if you think you can live together and not have sex.. which is very unlikely then I guess it would be ok. Living together is said to not be a "Christian like" thing because for one you are more likely going to have sex, which leads to fornication "a sin".. or you are putting yourself into a place of temptation.. In the bible it does strictly say "Flee from temptation" that is a very well highlighted verse in a very common prayer that many people recite. Living with someone your not married to of the opposite sex and knowing you can sleep with them cause they are right there with you , I would think is putting yourself into temptation. So yes not living with them and still having sex is just as bad... Maybe its best to avoid it all together or get married if you think you will fall into having sex or if you already have...

1 corinthians 7:8-9 (marriage)

Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
 
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