Sex during menstration

[98cwitr]

So from time to time my wife and I will become intimate during ovulation. I personally dont feel any guilt or remorse under the bonds of marriage, but recall the OT scripture of Lev that mentions so pretty dire consequences for having sex during a woman's period

Leviticus 18:19 “‘Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.

Leviticus 20:18 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people.

Seems a bit over-dramatic but whatever...I have to consider that there were no "good" forms of "feminine hygiene" products back then, so that might be the reason they took it so seriously, that, coupled with how blood was viewed (ie: the reason for a lot of Jewish dietary laws), but it just wonder if it still might be considered wrong. I have prayed about it within certain conviction, but the answer I received was out of scope of the question presented.

 

[Bluelion]

I don't do it. You quoted what the Bible says, I think it is something you have to work out for you.

 

[Ubuntu]

My impression is that the two passages you quoted deal with two fundamentally different issues... The first passage could very well have been given for health reasons, as you suggest. Earlier in Leviticus it is written that if a man did have sex with his wife during her menstruation, he would become ritually unclean for seven days, just like a menstruating woman, something which surely would have been quite embarrassing for a man. (See Lev 15:19-24). This is a mild way of dissuading the man to initiate sex with his wife during her period. Women have various degrees of pain during their periods, so I believe this practice was meant to safeguard the woman.

The other text you mentioned is indeed rather harsh.

They were to be "cut off" from Israel, which probably means that they were given a death penalty. This suggests that a serious sin is addressed here, and if you look at the context this particular sin is listed among grave sexual sins such as incest.

The wording is also different in the second text. They were guilty of "uncovering her fountain of blood", something which isn't mentioned in the other texts that deal with menstruation. It is very likely that this "uncovering" of the female "fountain of blood", were some kind of heathen fertility ritual that neighbouring people practised. In other words, we're talking about what most likely was a form of witchcraft.

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When it comes to your specific dilemma, I think that we definitively can learn something from these ancient biblical regulations. First and foremost I think this regulation was meant to protect the woman, so I'd say that whether or not couples should have sex during menstruation isn't the choice of the guys, husbands should leave this decision to their wives. If we can learn anything from this today it is that the wife shouldn't feel obliged to have sex when she has her period, and it is probably best to leave her alone unless she's the one initiating sex!

 

[98cwitr]

^^^love the sn btw On 14.04 right now Still can't get my wireless to work though

Anyway, thanks for the reply guys. I don't want to deny her if she is the one instigating though. Lord knows I dont want to come between us in that regard, everything considered.

 

[C-Man]

^^^love the sn btw On 14.04 right now Still can't get my wireless to work though

Anyway, thanks for the reply guys. I don't want to deny her if she is the one instigating though. Lord knows I dont want to come between us in that regard, everything considered.

What wireless card do you have?

That does seem like a rather peculiar rule, and seems to relate more to the hygeine and medicine of the times and culture than anything else.

 

[98cwitr]

made a whole thread about my wireless issues here: [ubuntu] Destination Unreachable with bcml-kernel-source driver

What does this mean?

Ezekiel 36:17 “Son of man, when the people of Israel were living in their own land, they defiled it by their conduct and their actions. Their conduct was like a woman’s monthly uncleanness in my sight."

Really?! If God really didn't like a woman's period so much He could have created her without it Or maybe God is just saying it [their conduct] was a "bloody mess." Not trying to be crass, but seriously I am confused.

 

[C-Man]

He was referring to the way they were acting, comparing it to a waste product.

Also, try this with ndiswrapper: http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads...d=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false

(I'm not registered on Ubuntu's board)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

HaShem's rules for living, instructions for life, and guidance for obedience didn't stop.

men/mankind just screwed up everything.

 

[MrJim]

You're not Jewish-don't worry about it.

 

[iLove]

So from time to time my wife and I will become intimate during ovulation. I personally dont feel any guilt or remorse under the bonds of marriage, but recall the OT scripture of Lev that mentions so pretty dire consequences for having sex during a woman's period

Leviticus 18:19 “‘Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.

Leviticus 20:18 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people.

Seems a bit over-dramatic but whatever...I have to consider that there were no "good" forms of "feminine hygiene" products back then, so that might be the reason they took it so seriously, that, coupled with how blood was viewed (ie: the reason for a lot of Jewish dietary laws), but it just wonder if it still might be considered wrong. I have prayed about it within certain conviction, but the answer I received was out of scope of the question presented.

Walking in the Spirit

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[c] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,[d] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another. Galatians 5:16-26 NKJV

 

[twin1954]

A good rule of thumb to live by: when in doubt don't. If you question any act or behavior is acceptable for you then simply don't do it until you no longer question it. Paul says that whatsoever is not of faith is sin, Rom. 14:23. If you can do it with a clear conscience then it isn't sin for you. Paul also said that all things are lawful for me but not all things are expedient, 1Cor. 6:12 &10:23, which means that we are not under the law and as believers will not be judged by the law but in Christ. Still, though it may not be sin it may not be expedient especially if your wife thinks it may be wrong.

 

[98cwitr]

He was referring to the way they were acting, comparing it to a waste product.

Also, try this with ndiswrapper: Realtek

(I'm not registered on Ubuntu's board)

Tried ndiswrapper...didnt work for me (had to even use the win2000 driver instead of the Xp/Vista one)

 

[RoboRyan]

You guys are married. It shouldnt matter what you do in marriage unless one of you says something about it and you deal with that situation. Since your married, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[Rhamiel]

that is part of the Old Testament that had more to do with sacredness then it did with morals

the moral law still applies
the dietary laws and laws of separateness no longer apply