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But I am starting to think that the Bible may have been predicting modern technological developments

What do you think it predicted?

Well, I think it has accurately predicted a couple things.....but one of the things that's very interesting to me is that multiple scientists and researchers (like Richard Dawkins, David Deutsch, Frank Tipler, Max Tegmark and many others) are now predicting that we may be able to raise the dead through Quantum Archaeology and/or Simulation Theory. .

1. what text in the Bible predicts that one day man will reach some level of scientific knowledge to raise the dead??

2. In Matt 4 the Bible shows that one of the highest intelligences in the universes thinks that only God can get rocks to turn into organic form such as bread. Even though some atheists today would argue that rocks (plus dust, gas, sunlight, water) will turn into horses if given enough time -- yet the Bible does not claim that any such thing is true.
 
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there are many other similar transhumanist proposals which would seem like they may be fulfilling Biblical predictions. Corinthians 15:51-52 tells us "Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed." And there are countless other Bible verses which suggest that the "sleeping" and the long departed will be raised up in the far future... and that it will be a physical resurrection here in the physical universe.

It is true that a bodily resurrection is predicted in the Bible - it has not happened yet because it will not happen until the appearing of Christ -

Here is what Christians tend to preach at funeral services...
1 Thess 4:13-18
13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as indeed the rest of mankind do, who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose from the dead, so also God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep through Jesus. 15 For we say this to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore, comfort one another with these words.

And as you note from 1 Cor 15 it is a bodily resurrection.

But this is not "science". Nothing for "the lab to do" in this case.


Also, I would argue that the Bible accurately predicted the spread of the Gospel and the spread of Christianity.

Matt 24:12 And because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will become cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end is the one who will be saved. 14 This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.


As Luke 13 and various other passages predicted, the Kingdom of God started out as a tiny tribe "the size of a mustard seed" but has grown exponentially to fill the entire world. And that has been facilitated even further by the advent of the internet and other technological advances.

Daniel 12:4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
 
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Abraham was never in hell, you should read Luke 16 closely, the rich man was in hell and Lazarus was in Heaven next to Abraham, the rich man calls out to Abraham (Who is in Heaven) from Hell where he (the rich man) is.

Also, what makes you think it's a societal warning? What about Matthew 25:41 says "Societal Warning?" or Revelation 20:15? Or what about Christ telling us that Hell is so serious that it'd be better to cut off our hand if it causes us to sin than to go into Hell in Mark 9:43? Scripture is clear that Hell is a real and eternal place, and it is the punishment we all deserve for going against God, and there's only one way to not go to Hell - To believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Well this is a topic that is mysterious to me...I certainly dont pretend to have all the answers about Heaven and Hell, but I think there's a couple reasons to suspect that Abraham and Lazarus were in the "Lowly Regions" (although in a more pleasant sector of the "Lowly Regions") After Jesus dies he goes to free those who are trapped in Hell.
Ephesians 4:9 says "...'He ascended,' what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth?"
1st Peter 4:6 says "For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
....and then 1st Peter 3:18 says “For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water.”
...and there are other passages of course...but the main point is that if Christ descended to free the dead spirits (presumably including the Rich Man) and the Bible specifically says that this descent was into the "Lower Parts of the Earth". So Lazarus and the Rich Man were also presumably there in the "Lower Parts of the Earth"...since they were close to the Rich Man to carry on the conversation that is detailed in Luke. Some people theorize that although the Abraham and the Lazarus were righteous, they still weren't righteous enough to get into Heaven...but that changed when Christ died. This could be true...although Im not sure. It could be that no one went to Heaven under the Old Covenant. This would be supported by Christ's statement in John 3:13 “No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven–the Son of Man.” But this presumably changed when Christ died...This lends greater significance to one of Christ's final declarations "You will be with me this day in Paradise". That seems to be one of the first (if not the very first) Biblical reference to someone going to Heaven when they die. Also keep in mind that this would be in the same time frame that is detailed in Revelation 12:7 where the Bible describes the Child being born who changes the status quo...resulting in the War in Heaven where Satan is cast out (and this is consistent with Job where Satan has access to Heaven under the Old Covenant).
So to make a long story short (I apologize for the length of this post..) I think that there was huge change in the status quo when Christ died.
Then to briefly address why the Olivet Discourse (including Matthew 25) seems to be a societal level warning about Israel. The Parables of the the Talents, the Parables of the Virgins, the analogy of the Sheep and Goats and various other references in Matthew seem (at least to me ) to be speaking about the end of Israel's special status as God's chosen people and the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 (the end of the Jewish Age). One of words used in the Olivet Discourse is "Gehenna" (which along with Hades and Sheol was translated to mean "Hell" ) Gehenna was a reference to rubbish heaps and landfills outside of Israel (where rubbish was burned)...a possible reference to the idea that Israel was being "thrown out into the darkness" in favor of a new Guard (presumably comprised of both Jews and Gentiles who had accepted Christ). Of course Im not positive that this is what Christ is referring to...but what really convinces me is that this entire sequence (including the warnings about the Sheep and the Goats and the references to kolasis and eternal destruction) are predicated with time signifiers such as "These things will all happen before this generation passes away". Why would general warnings about Hell be pinned to any one time frame or generation?
Oh and the Hell/ Lake of Fire that is referred to in Revelation is (at least in my opinion) something completely different from the other two Hells....but also a societal level warning. But that subject could get really long and complicated so I better resist the urge to get into that...
But I would be really curious to hear any verses or passages from the Bible that might contradict my views on Hell...Like i say its a very mysterious topic so Im always open to hearing new verses which may improve my understanding
 
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What do you think it predicted?



1. what text in the Bible predicts that one day man will reach some level of scientific knowledge to raise the dead??

Well, the Bible predicts in several places that the dead will be raised here in the physical realm. The dead are already resurrected spiritually....So the fact that there is another physical resurrection implies that it is a resurrection that intersects with our laws of chemistry, biology and physics.
God could use a quantum computer to facilitate His will be doing done...Including scientific theories wherein humans will be resurrected with the assistance of quantum computers.
But yes, as you note, God invented chemistry, biology and physics....Humans could never make a quantum computer (or a classical computer for that matter) without God giving us the building blocks.
 
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What do you think it predicted?



1. what text in the Bible predicts that one day man will reach some level of scientific knowledge to raise the dead??

2. In Matt 4 the Bible shows that one of the highest intelligences in the universes thinks that only God can get rocks to turn into organic form such as bread. Even though some atheists today would argue that rocks (plus dust, gas, sunlight, water) will turn into horses if given enough time -- yet the Bible does not claim that any such thing is true.

Heres an interesting hypothetical question-
Elon Musk believes that we already live in a computer simulation. Even for atheists that would mean that all humans could be resurrected after death (since we would just be strong AI simulations running on a hard drive). Is it possible that God could use this type of technology to facilitate the Resurrections predicted throughout Scripture. And if not...why are certain physical tools off limits to God (keeping in mind that He created these physical tools to begin with)
 
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Well this is a topic that is mysterious to me...I certainly dont pretend to have all the answers about Heaven and Hell, but I think there's a couple reasons to suspect that Abraham and Lazarus were in the "Lowly Regions" (although in a more pleasant sector of the "Lowly Regions") After Jesus dies he goes to free those who are trapped in Hell.
Ephesians 4:9 says "...'He ascended,' what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth?"
1st Peter 4:6 says "For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
....and then 1st Peter 3:18 says “For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water.”
...and there are other passages of course...but the main point is that if Christ descended to free the dead spirits (presumably including the Rich Man) and the Bible specifically says that this descent was into the "Lower Parts of the Earth". So Lazarus and the Rich Man were also presumably there in the "Lower Parts of the Earth"...since they were close to the Rich Man to carry on the conversation that is detailed in Luke. Some people theorize that although the Abraham and the Lazarus were righteous, they still weren't righteous enough to get into Heaven...but that changed when Christ died. This could be true...although Im not sure. It could be that no one went to Heaven under the Old Covenant. This would be supported by Christ's statement in John 3:13 “No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven–the Son of Man.” But this presumably changed when Christ died...This lends greater significance to one of Christ's final declarations "You will be with me this day in Paradise". That seems to be one of the first (if not the very first) Biblical reference to someone going to Heaven when they die. Also keep in mind that this would be in the same time frame that is detailed in Revelation 12:7 where the Bible describes the Child being born who changes the status quo...resulting in the War in Heaven where Satan is cast out (and this is consistent with Job where Satan has access to Heaven under the Old Covenant).
So to make a long story short (I apologize for the length of this post..) I think that there was huge change in the status quo when Christ died.
Then to briefly address why the Olivet Discourse (including Matthew 25) seems to be a societal level warning about Israel. The Parables of the the Talents, the Parables of the Virgins, the analogy of the Sheep and Goats and various other references in Matthew seem (at least to me ) to be speaking about the end of Israel's special status as God's chosen people and the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 (the end of the Jewish Age). One of words used in the Olivet Discourse is "Gehenna" (which along with Hades and Sheol was translated to mean "Hell" ) Gehenna was a reference to rubbish heaps and landfills outside of Israel (where rubbish was burned)...a possible reference to the idea that Israel was being "thrown out into the darkness" in favor of a new Guard (presumably comprised of both Jews and Gentiles who had accepted Christ). Of course Im not positive that this is what Christ is referring to...but what really convinces me is that this entire sequence (including the warnings about the Sheep and the Goats and the references to kolasis and eternal destruction) are predicated with time signifiers such as "These things will all happen before this generation passes away". Why would general warnings about Hell be pinned to any one time frame or generation?
Oh and the Hell/ Lake of Fire that is referred to in Revelation is (at least in my opinion) something completely different from the other two Hells....but also a societal level warning. But that subject could get really long and complicated so I better resist the urge to get into that...
But I would be really curious to hear any verses or passages from the Bible that might contradict my views on Hell...Like i say its a very mysterious topic so Im always open to hearing new verses which may improve my understanding

Ephesians 4:9 is about Christ, not Abraham. 1 Peter 4:9 isn't about the Gospel being preached to currently dead people, it's about people that had already heard the Gospel while alive and are now dead, this is what most Theologians agree is what the verse means. Also, here's a good explanation of 1 Peter 3, this is from RC Sproul who explains it better than I could;

"In verses 18–20 we read that Jesus, though put to death, was made alive in the Spirit in which he spoke to the “spirits in prison” who disobeyed in the days of Noah. Though many in church history see in these verses a reference to a literal descent of Christ into hell, that is probably not the best interpretation of this verse. Space prevents us from going into all reasons for rejecting this view. We will say that first of all, Jesus viewed His entire mission as one of announcing freedom to the captives (Luke 4:18–19) — which captives were living people and not fallen angels or dead human beings. Secondly, given the Son of God’s attributes of omnipresence and eternity as well as His interrelatedness with the Holy Spirit, it is probably better to see in these verses a reference to the pre-incarnate Son of God speaking through Noah to the sinners of Noah’s day by the Spirit, warning them of God’s impending judgment (2 Peter 2:5)."

Regarding John 3:13, it can't mean what you think it does because we know Elijah and Enoch went directly to Heaven.

As for the Parables being actually about Israel losing its privileges as a chosen Nation, that interpretation makes literally no sense and literally, no Christian ever has interpreted it this way and expected it to make sense. Also, "These things will happen before this generation passes away" refers to the Destruction of the Temple, not to the Parables.

"It's a very mysterious topic" No it's not! Scripture is clear, you're just trying to get around it with bad interpretations that no one has seriously held ever in Church History until now.
 
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Heres an interesting hypothetical question-
Elon Musk believes that we already live in a computer simulation. Even for atheists that would mean that all humans could be resurrected after death (since we would just be strong AI simulations running on a hard drive). Is it possible that God could use this type of technology to facilitate the Resurrections predicted throughout Scripture. And if not...why are certain physical tools off limits to God (keeping in mind that He created these physical tools to begin with)
What do we as Christians care about what Elon Musk believes about the Universe? Where in Scripture do you see a computer simulation? God doesn't need a computer simulation to run the Universe.

"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." - Colossians 1:15-17
 
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Heres an interesting hypothetical question-
Elon Musk believes that we already live in a computer simulation. Even for atheists that would mean that all humans could be resurrected after death (since we would just be strong AI simulations running on a hard drive). Is it possible that God could use this type of technology to facilitate the Resurrections predicted throughout Scripture. And if not...why are certain physical tools off limits to God (keeping in mind that He created these physical tools to begin with)

A number of atheists like Leonard Susskind and Martin Reese suggested that some higher intelligence created everything we are a "simulation" in their vid-presentation "What we still don't know".

here is a clip from it.


Once the atheists go there -- it means any and everything in the Bible is for them "perfectly normal" because it is just a matter of programming whatever the Bible says for that specific simulation. At that point they have deleted all their objections to the Bible. Seems a bit self-defeating for them to go there.
 
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Well, the Bible predicts in several places that the dead will be raised here in the physical realm.

True - but the Bible says God will do it - not that man can do it.

The dead are already resurrected spiritually

No they aren't -- that does not happen until the appearing of Christ as 1 Thess 4:13-18 points out for funerals of NT saints. Paul addresses the issue of loved ones that have died and says that they will come to life at the appearing of Christ.

....So the fact that there is another physical resurrection implies that it is a resurrection that intersects with our laws of chemistry, biology and physics.

Its God's laws - all we have is an approximation in terms of a description of them. So God has physical laws - and those laws do not allow for pancakes that 'make themselves" in our kitchens. Rather we still have to get the ingredients and make them. That does not violate the fact that in nature apple cinnamon pancakes or blueberry pancakes are not made by themselves.
It is in harmony with it.
 
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Ephesians 4:9 is about Christ, not Abraham. 1 Peter 4:9 isn't about the Gospel being preached to currently dead people, it's about people that had already heard the Gospel while alive and are now dead, this is what most Theologians agree is what the verse means. Also, here's a good explanation of 1 Peter 3, this is from RC Sproul who explains it better than I could;

"In verses 18–20 we read that Jesus, though put to death, was made alive in the Spirit in which he spoke to the “spirits in prison” who disobeyed in the days of Noah. Though many in church history see in these verses a reference to a literal descent of Christ into hell, that is probably not the best interpretation of this verse. Space prevents us from going into all reasons for rejecting this view. We will say that first of all, Jesus viewed His entire mission as one of announcing freedom to the captives (Luke 4:18–19) — which captives were living people and not fallen angels or dead human beings. Secondly, given the Son of God’s attributes of omnipresence and eternity as well as His interrelatedness with the Holy Spirit, it is probably better to see in these verses a reference to the pre-incarnate Son of God speaking through Noah to the sinners of Noah’s day by the Spirit, warning them of God’s impending judgment (2 Peter 2:5)."

Regarding John 3:13, it can't mean what you think it does because we know Elijah and Enoch went directly to Heaven.

As for the Parables being actually about Israel losing its privileges as a chosen Nation, that interpretation makes literally no sense and literally, no Christian ever has interpreted it this way and expected it to make sense. Also, "These things will happen before this generation passes away" refers to the Destruction of the Temple, not to the Parables.

"It's a very mysterious topic" No it's not! Scripture is clear, you're just trying to get around it with bad interpretations that no one has seriously held ever in Church History until now.

Well, even Paul implied that it was mysterious..."Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality." 1st Corinthians 15:51-58

Heres my question for you...Do you believe that all of the Old Testament saints were going to the same Heaven that Christians go to under the New Covenant? How does that explain Samuel going down to some version of Hell after he died. How does that explain Abraham and Lazarus being in the "Lowly Regions")...being able to talk and interact with the Rich Man? And why does Jesus DESCEND in all of the verses where he frees the captive spirits? If we take the Bible literally, it seems that everyone went to the "Lowly Regions" in the Old Testament/ Old Covenant (with the exception of Elijah who never even died and was taken up in a Chariot). But Im open to different interpretations (as long as they are taking the Bible literally) Does anyone know of any examples where Old Testament saints go to Heaven after they die (ie where it is confirmed in Old Testament text)...
 
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A number of atheists like Leonard Susskind and Martin Reese suggested that some higher intelligence created everything we are a "simulation" in their vid-presentation "What we still don't know".

here is a clip from it.


Once the atheists go there -- it means any and everything in the Bible is for them "perfectly normal" because it is just a matter of programming whatever the Bible says for that specific simulation. At that point they have deleted all their objections to the Bible. Seems a bit self-defeating for them to go there.

Yeah thats very interesting isnt it? Thats why Elon Musk might as well become a Christian....If he believes that we live in a Simulation, all of the Atheist objections about miracles and the Afterlife being "unscientific" all go out the window. If he truly believes that we live in a Simulation then he also (by necessity) must believe that every living person can be resurrected after death.
 
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True - but the Bible says God will do it - not that man can do it.



No they aren't -- that does not happen until the appearing of Christ as 1 Thess 4:13-18 points out for funerals of NT saints. Paul addresses the issue of loved ones that have died and says that they will come to life at the appearing of Christ.



Its God's laws - all we have is an approximation in terms of a description of them. So God has physical laws - and those laws do not allow for pancakes that 'make themselves" in our kitchens. Rather we still have to get the ingredients and make them. That does not violate the fact that in nature apple cinnamon pancakes or blueberry pancakes are not made by themselves.
It is in harmony with it.

Well I agree that God will physically resurrect us....but the question is- will God do it by snapping His fingers or will He do it by working through His human servants here on earth? I think there are some reasons to believe that He will do it through His servants, because there are certain Bible verses that seem to indicate an imperfect process. Just to clarify, I believe we are instantly resurrected in the spiritual sense (ie ours souls go to Heaven as soon as we die...) This is backed up by verses like Luke 23:43....and this is a perfect spiritual process. But many times when the Bible talks about God's will being done in the physical realm it is done through an imperfect process. For example, the Bible talks about God's Kingdom spreading through all of the world but is is not God just snapping His fingers...it is human beings initiating an imperfect process...It is Christians (from the Crusaders to the Puritans to Jimmy Swaggart) sometimes making mistakes, but slowly, incrementally fulfilling the mission of spreading God's Kingdom.
Similarly the process of defeating death here in the physical realm seems to be an imperfect process...because we see in multiple verses that death will eventually be defeated here in the physical realm... 1st Corinthians says- "For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death." So we know that death will eventually be eradicated here in the physical realm (and of course its already been defeated in the spiritual realm). But the way its defeated here in the physical realm seems to be an incremental process....Because in Isaiah 65:20 it describes a future where death has been curtailed, but has not been completely defeated...People are living much longer but they are still dying (this sounds like the future that many scientists have imagined, where medical and technological advances will have provided ways to halt and/or slow the aging process). As Isaiah says “Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; the one who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere child; the one who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed." So this view of the future isnt a perfect Paradise where everything is aligned with God's Will....but a world where things are dramatically better yet still imperfect...so I think that is one indication that the physical defeat of death may involve God working through human hands (and we do see verses like Matthew 10:8 that call for humans to "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy...")
 
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Well I agree that God will physically resurrect us....but the question is- will God do it by snapping His fingers or will He do it by working through His human servants here on earth? I think there are some reasons to believe that He will do it through His servants,

We see that answered in 1 Thess 4:13-18

This is what they were preaching at funeral services -

13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as indeed the rest of mankind do, who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose from the dead, so also God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep through Jesus. 15 For we say this to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore, comfort one another with these words.

Nothing in there about mankind becoming so wise that they turn dust-back-into-living bodies resurrected to life etc.
 
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We see that answered in 1 Thess 4:13-18

This is what they were preaching at funeral services -

13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as indeed the rest of mankind do, who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose from the dead, so also God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep through Jesus. 15 For we say this to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore, comfort one another with these words.

Nothing in there about mankind becoming so wise that they turn dust-back-into-living bodies resurrected to life etc.

Well of course you could be right...I do believe that it could be a fully supernatural event....
But conversely, what we read here could be a description of quantum physical/ mechanical events...
Heres where we may be getting into the intricacies of extropic theory...Because what happens to the universe under Frank Tipler's Omega Point Theory bears a striking resemblance to the descriptions in Revelation and 1st Thessalonians. In Frank Tipler's theory the universe has to collapse into a "Big Crunch" state. According to Tipler, this type of violent universal collapse will give us infinite computational power. So when I go back to 1st Corinthians 15:51 I see a pretty interesting prediction- Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality"
And then I go to John 6:39 which also talks about "the Last Day" - "And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day" And of course there are multiple other verse about resurrections taking place on "The Last Day"
This is interesting because Tipler's Omega Point scenario would LITERALLY be happening on the last day of our universe. As the universe collapses we would be given infinite computational power to power a hyper-simulation. This hyper-simulation would be so complex that it would resurrect every single human and every single animal that had ever lived.
But this is interesting because before we do this all expansive hyper-simulation, we will probably already have resurrected some people with the lower bandwidths available to us prior to the universal collapse. And this also seems to be predicted by the Bible, since there seem to be multiple different references to different kinds of resurrections.
And this would also mesh with the passages in Isaiah, where human life span increases, but death has not been totally defeated...Because the total defeat of death will not happen until later. Again this seems to me like an imperfect process...people doing God's will through an imperfect physical process.
Now this is not guaranteed to happen the way that Tipler has predicted.... In fact the accepted universal model has changed a couple of times since Tipler first proposed his theory. But Tipler insists that the Omega Point theory is still workable, and that a "Big Crunch" final singularity is still required under current models of physics (its worth pointing out that when Tipler first proposed this theory, many people laughed at his notion that the entire human race could be resurrected in a hyper-simulation....but now fast forward thirty years later, and the wealthiest man in the world Elon Musk believes that we ALREADY live in a Tipler style simulation).
Anyways, here is some more info on the Omega Point Theory for anyone who is interested Frank J. Tipler - Wikipedia Omega Point - Wikipedia
 
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