Yes, but it seems that many would like to maintain a level of confidentiality while doing it
I'm sure the men in the restroom will keep their secret.
I wasn't aware that there should be a consequence for a victimless crime.
If putting on a wig makes you uncomfortable in the men's restroom...those are self inflicted consequences. They can always choose not to wear a wig.
Women can't choose to stop being women though...so I don't see why they should have to deal with men in wigs.
I don't think they choose to have intrusive thoughts concerning gender. One of the treatments for feeling like one is a woman in a man's body.
Does the treatment work? Do they stop feeling like women in men's bodies (whatever that means)?
I was under the impression that trans people have the highest rate of suicide.
You'd be wrong.
It's politics for both camps.
Not for me...no. i actually don't want women and children victimized. I understand some folks care more about the men in wigs, but not me. I don't have any problems with them so long as they follow the same rules as everyone else.
Do licensed medical professionals really tell the parents of their patients that their child will surely die if they don't change their gender or were you axadgerating foe emotional impact?
What would you consider evidence?
A recording?
My insurance has never paid for a treatment or medication that wasn't medical. I wonder why they do if it's not medical treatment they need? Oh, that's right, they just need to change their minds.
Well as you said...
There's nothing we can do about their biological sex. That doesn't change.
You make it sound as if treating the mind is more difficult. Depression has high suicide rates, anxiety has high suicide rates, bipolar disorder has high suicide rates.
I think schizophrenia starts at about 40% and climbs with every untreated psychotic episode.
It seems like we'd be much more successful treating what can be treated. Clearly if putting on a dress and wig did anything to fix this problem, then we wouldn't be hearing all these other increasingly ridiculous demands like...
-use the pronouns I like
-let me ignore the rules for restrooms, locker rooms, showers, etc.
-let me play on the women's team and hold all the women's records for this sport.
-let me do time in the prison of my choosing
-let me teach your children my wacky beliefs
And on and on and on...
Has it not occurred to you that every single accommodation, every time you bend over backwards for these people, the end result is a new demand?
It's as if all the previous demands didn't do anything more than provide a momentary relief before they realized that they still feel like a woman in a man's body.
So he's a pervert and would remain a pervert regardless of gender.
Right...but we don't have to let him or others like him into women's restrooms where he can sexually harass 14yo girls with no consequences.
After all...if the choice is between that and a man wearing a wig feeling a little uncomfortable in the men's locker room, shouldn't the man wearing the wig face the consequences? He's choosing after all....the 14yo girl can't stop being a 14yo girl. Since he's the one choosing to wear the wig....it seems only just if he's the one feeling uncomfortable, not the 14yo girl who's trying to work out at the gym.
Right, if we as a nation decide that trans people must either use unisex or go home to do their business.
Or they can use the correct restroom. I don't see the problem.
If it's not a mental illness or condition, how is it legal for psychiatrists and psychologists to treat them for it?
I don't think it should be legal for psychiatrists to prescribe puberty blockers and HRT for a condition that the Food And Drug Administration has decided that they won't successfully treat. You may have noticed that many states are passing laws making this illegal lol. The president is mentally gone....and he's clearly just rubber stamping whatever is placed in front of him. I don't know who's agenda this is...but I don't recall Joe running on puberty blockers and cross sex hormones for kids, so I doubt anyone voted for this. What I do know is who is profiting from it.
Perhaps you (and people who share your opinion) don't think they deserve treatment because they can simply change their mind about how they perceive gender and simply choose not to have intrusive thoughts
Well don't take my word for it.
How about we take a look at what the trans activists say? How about a PhD from Harvard?
Gender fluidity refers to changes over time in gender identity and gender expression. For many people, gender identity and expression develop early and stay the same; for others, one or both may ch...
www.health.harvard.edu
"Gender fluidity refers to change over time in a person’s gender expression or gender identity, or both. That change might be in expression, but not identity, or in identity, but not expression. Or both expression and identity might change together.
For some youth, gender fluidity may be a way to explore gender before landing on a more stable gender expression or identity. For others, gender fluidity may continue indefinitely as part of their life experience with gender."
According to the "experts" gender identity can keep changing throughout someone's lifetime.
To read this makes it seem like gender identity can change much much more easily than their biological features. Once we carve out a girl's ovaries and breasts....they're gone. If she decides later she indeed feels like a woman, too bad so sad.
Why wouldn't we treat this like we do other mental disorders?
If biological sex and gender are indeed so different....then why does it matter at all if trans people alter their appearance to match that of a different sex?
You do realize that back in the day...these people were just called transsexuals. They described themselves as experiencing the exact same problem as "transgender" people. A great many of them mocked the idea of gender as nothing more than a gimmick.
Perhaps they were right...perhaps it's just gimmick used to manipulate people for their own political beliefs.
That's their delusion if they are being treated by a mental health worker (or two) and choose that they are being treated for something they don't have. I mean, I'm pretty sure that they can't get medication or surgery until they have been diagnosed.
Diagnosed?
Read how "gender affirming care" diagnoses trans people. Here's what to expect from an over the phone/internet clinic (that's right, no need to leave your house)....
Are you looking for a gender-affirming doctor or HRT? Book a same-day online appointment today to talk to a doctor about gender-affirming health care
www.circlemedical.com
So an initial 100$ and 30min discussion of your gender. Also a request for blood labs (because they're going to prescribe you cross sex hormones).
2 weeks later...another 100$, a 30 minute conversation about how the hormones might affect you, and you'll get your prescription. They won't deny you anything, this is gender affirming care....not gender denying/questioning care.
We know that you can have these experimental drugs with under an hour of conversation and some blood labs, because by the 3rd appointment (20 minutes every 3 months) they're already discussing the possibility of changing your dosage. That means you will get prescribed drugs by the end of the 2nd appointment. Over the phone or internet.
The standards for getting prescribed medical marijuana were higher. They typically involved a 30-60 minute interview with a doctor who was clearly high and 300-400$ depending upon the state.
That's not exactly what I would call responsible medical treatment.
And business owners shouldn't go on TV and cry when it gets around that they choose not to allow trans people to use the restroom in their establishment.
Does that happen? I've never seen a trans person denied the use of a restroom....just denied the use of the wrong restroom.
I'm sure you know that the human brain is the most important part of a person's physiology. That's made evident by people who have depression, anxiety, or schizophrenia. All mental disorders, all treated with medication.
Right.
I'm pretty sure someone who believes they are trans are not just given a bottle of hormones to take as needed.
No...they're prescribed by a quack. I don't know if it's once a day or 3 times but I'm sure they've got instructions on when to take them.
Most likely, they will also be required to see a psychologist or specialist counselor along with a medical doctor and a psychiatrist or nurse practitioner.
If by "see" you mean a 20 minute video call....sure.
Yes, it's a medical issue and not simply a choice.
Well the experts seem to think it's a choice....one that can change repeatedly throughout someone's life.
People think that about gays too like they choose to have a same-sex attraction.
I don't.
For a science guy, I'm sensing an emotional argument here
You should avoid that "sensing" feeling you're getting...you seem to "sense" there was a whole series of safeguards around "diagnosis" that didn't exist.
What sort if privacy does a guy in a wig get from using the women's restroom instead of the men's restroom? Aren't the women all going to know that is a guy in a wig as well?
I hate to be the bearer of more reality....but it takes a lot more than a wig and dress to fool anyone. Everyone in both the women's restroom and guy's restroom know that's a guy in a dress and wig.
