Russia Preparing for War.

[Marilyn C]

So.. this came out today. Putin looks just as stressed as I'd imagine our own leadership is
He feels backed into a corner. If he cannot get the assurance that Ukraine won't join NATO then he feels direct conflict with NATO is unavoidable because he believes Ukraine will try to retake Crimea (which is understandable.. Russia made that land grab illegally years ago, but it is something that Russia won't back down from having as it's their only warm water port that doesn't freeze up over the winter)
If there's anything that would truly risk rational people making an irrational decision... it's stress and feeling like they have no alternatives.

Thanks for the update Jamdoc.

 

[Marilyn C]

Erick Stakelbeck - Iran Assassination Plot Thwarted; Russia Tells Israel to STOP Syria Airstrikes | Watchman Newscast - Bing video

Could this be the beginning of the `hook in the jaws?`

 

[Jamdoc]

Russia.
*clap*
is.
*clap*
not.
*clap*
"rosh".
*clap*

I challenge anyone who believes the nonsensical claim that "rosh" in Ezekiel 38 is Russia, to find me anywhere else in the bible, where the hebrew word "rosh" is anything but referring to a chief, head, or root, a description of position, not an ethnic group.
In fact I challenge anyone who believes this.. to find me "another" instance in the 599 uses of the term, where it's a people group or nation.

and why it matters is because it's TERRIBLE hermeneutics 598 times the word "rosh" is a positional description, signifying the head or chief or root of something, signifying importance.
You're going to tell me this ONE time in the bible it means a people group NOT in the table of nations while every other name listed is in the table of nations?

Listen people, this is a hangeron from when the soviet union was founded and was the enemy of the west (and in some ways they still are) and it became trendy to point out "ah.. Rosh sounds like Rush... Russia! See our communist enemies are EVIL!" It's EISIGESIS reading a narrative INTO scripture. You would not come to this interpretation from scripture alone!

I'm not basing calling out rosh is not Russia based on a political world view. I'm calling it out because the word simply isn't used as a nation name anywhere in the bible.

If you want to make ANY connection between what's happening in Europe, with what happens in Ezekiel 38, it is more likely the fact that neither Russia NOR the US factor into Ezekiel 38 and 39.. so whatever world war could spark between Russia and the US, cripples us both to the point where we are both no longer factors in global politics, leaving a power vacuum for countries like the mid east (and it would make the mentions of swords and horses being used in battle more likely to be literal if it's post clash of USA and Russia)

 

[Oseas]

QUOTE FROM POST #240

THE WAR IS OF GOD ALMIGHTY-the Word is GOD X Satan and his followers as follows:
The waters of Euphrates is drying up. Genesis 2:v.14. This event opens the way for three unclean spirits like frogs which go forth unto the rulers of the earth of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of this great Day of GOD Almighty - the LORD's Day. But why are these devilish spirits like frogs? And they come out of the MOUTH of the Dragon, and out of the MOUTH of the Beast, and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet, as is written in Revelation 16. THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS? | Pure Bible Forum (and see www.sinaiticus.net )

JESUS WARNED: - Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

TO ALL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~ - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON ~~~~~~~~~~~~

I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert, walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of peregrination / pilgrimage. What about GOD's people now or in this current time?

Now GOD's people will have to go through (I mean win a war) against the Red Dragon, that's exactly it, a Red Dragon yes, this is no coincidence, it was predicted millennia ago. He's a false messiah who will soon manifest, just ahead, with great signs of lying, he will manifest in Israel as a lamb with two horns, he's a Jew, of course, and he'll speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.v.3 to 17 and Revelation 13:v. 11 to 18.

Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious, marvelous, and day of exceedingly joy - the day 1335. Amen.

Remembering and understanding that the departure of the Hebrew people from Egypt was not, without first having taken place a battle against Pharaoh (by the way, there and now is Satan himself), and when the march began for the departure of God's people from Egypt, then the enemy army persecuted the Hebrews, the same will happen now, initially the persecution will be by the man Beast of the sea, it is he who will first persecute the Christian believers - Revelation 13:v.5 - for 42 months, that is the first half of the last week, the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27. This POINT is only and only the half of the way -3,5 years or 42 months, the GOD's people will need to march more 3,5 years, so the march will last 7 years, it will not be easy this journey of course.

Again: Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious, marvelous, and day of exceendigly joy - the day 1335. Amen.

JESUS in His prayer to the Father, said: John 17:v.15 - I pray not that thou take them out of the world, but that thou keep them from the evil.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:v.5

Get ready, yeah, get ready.

 

[Timtofly]

You've been saying this exact thing for NEARLY 10 YEARS on this forum. (and it's anybody's guess as to how long you had been saying it before you joined CF in 2013)

Does "NOW, VERY SOON" 10 years ago, mean the same thing to you as NOW, VERY SOON, means to you today?

Or have you personaly changed its meaning since then?

Here is a quote from you from November 22, 2013:



You were CONVINCED, over 9 years ago, that event was going to happen "VERY SOON", and that "MANY prophesies PROOVED it"!

Were you wrong?

Or, does "Very soon" to you, mean at least 10 years?

Here's the Math:
Since "Now very soon", when you said it ten years ago meant at least 10 years, we can logically conclude that "now very soon" when you say it today means the same thing, which puts "now very soon" to you, up to 20 years out from when you first uttered it here, qualifying 20 years away as "Very Soon" in your eyes..

Therefore, "Now Very Soon" when you said it ten years ago meant up to 20 years in your view, so, When you say it today, "Now very soon" also means 20 years which then logically demonstrates that "now very soon" when you said it 10 years ago, meant 40 years, so, when you say it today it also means 40 years, which makes "now very soon" to be 80 years when you said it 10 years ago, and then also 80 years when you say it today, making "now very soon" out to be up to 160 years when you said it 10 years ago, and therefore up to another 160 years when you say it today, making, of course, "now very soon" to be 320 years when you said it 10 years ago, as well as today, making Now very soon 640 years., then 1280, then 2560, then 5120 years.....

Unless of course you are constantly changing and updating your beliefs about what "now, very soon" means??

Or, you are admitting you were totally and completely wrong to assert 10 years ago that it was going to happen "Very Soon"... I have not seen such an admission of error from you however, just 10 years of continued doubling down on the previous error, as if you'd never uttered it in the first place, and certainly hoping no one has noticed...

It always means soon. Time is relative. The Second Coming is the only event in history that has always been soon. It will remain soon, until the second it happens. Only then will it stop being soon. Define it as an ongoing phenomenon, and not something that should have happened. Until it does happen it will remain an unknown. There is no point in placing an unknown event any where in history. Once placed it is no longer unknown, but known.

 

[Timtofly]

Yeah.. and 25% of the world's population dying in a nuclear exchange is.. well, somewhat of an understatement but not far off.

Whatever happens, that 25% is just not war. War is about 6%, famine an after effect is 6%, plague, which is already an epidemic factor is 6%, and animals attacking 6%, probably because of all of the above also robbed animals of their own sustenance. All four factors take out 25%, 2 billion lives.

The first 3 Seals could be opened and no one even noticed or attributed the effects as being the Seals. The 4th one will be more noticeable, but no one seems to call the 4th Seal the GT. No one calls the 4th Seal a world War, though less than 25% died in each of the last 2 WW's.

WW1 - 40 million.
WW2 - 85 million, 3%
4th Seal - 2 billion, 25%

Yet still not the GT nor an actual WW. God is still involved, especially if the Second Coming and the natural disaster of that event is included in that 25%. My thought is that, that amount should include all those changed in mid air. John just does not illustrate it that way. I doubt there are exactly 2 billion in the church today. It would be nice if 4 billion would be raptured. It seems likely that many still will be part of the redeemed, but not part of the raptured.

No church is left behind though. If left behind; living on earth is the only outcome, but still safe from the Lake of Fire.

There are an estimated 15.2 million Jews today. Not even 1% of 8 billion. Are there more goats and sheep out there? Somehow another 2 billion will be lost in the Trumpet judgments. Is the sheep and goats evenly split. How can all Israel be saved and a remnant of one third both at the same time? Is there only 33% sheep, and 66% goats? But still way more are killed during the Trumpets than just those of Israel, unless there are more Israelites alive than currently many will admit to.

Many generalize all these upcoming events. Does anyone recognize the severity and enormous amount of death that will soon happen? 100% of all of Adam's flesh and blood has to come to a physical end. Even premil whitewash, thinking the majority just slips into the Millennium.

There is no slipping by nor escaping the end of sin and death by sin. It literally is the end of life as we know it.

It was pointed out that God would not let nuclear bombs destroy the earth, yet in the 6th Seal all mountains and continents are moved out of their places. I am thinking humans do not even have the nuclear capability to do what God Himself will do. Nukes cause radioactive waste, yet how else is famine and plague to happen? Are there even enough nukes to cause famine and plagues? I agree God does not need any help, but perhaps God allows that destruction via Satan's authority, just like God allowed tribulation upon Job via Satan's authority. I doubt God is going to punish humans for using their own devices, but allowing humans to destroy their own flesh has precedent in the book of Job. Satan was the instigator then, and probably stirring up the tribulation about to descend on humanity now.

But certainly God is about to do way more than anything humans could possibly achieve. I am sure Satan will step up and try to take all the credit anyway.

 

[Jamdoc]

Whatever happens that 25% is just not war. War is about 6%, famine an after effect is 6%, plague, which is already an epidemic factor is 6%, and animals attacking 6%, probably because of all of the above also robbed animals of their own sustenance. All four factors take out 25%, 2 billion lives.

The first 3 Seals could be opened and no one even noticed or attributed the effects as being the Seals. The 4th one will be more noticeable, but no one seems to call the 4th Seal the GT. No one calls the 4th Seal a world War, though less than 25% died in each of the last 2 WW's.

WW1 - 40 million.
WW2 - 85 million, 3%
4th Seal - 2 billion, 25%

Yet still not the GT nor an actual WW. God is still involved, especially if the Second Coming and the natural disaster of that event is included in that 25%. My thought is that, that amount should include all those changed in mid air. John just does not illustrate it that way. I doubt there are exactly 2 billion in the church today. It would be nice if 4 billion would be raptured. It seems likely that many still will be part of the redeemed, but not part of the raptured.

No church is left behind though. If left behind; living on earth is the only outcome, but still safe from the Lake of Fire.

There are an estimated 15.2 million Jews today. Not even 1% of 8 billion. Are there more goats and sheep out there? Somehow another 2 billion will be lost in the Trumpet judgments. Is the sheep and goats evenly split. How can all Israel be saved and a remnant of one third both at the same time? Is there only 33% sheep, and 66% goats? But still way more are killed during the Trumpets than just those of Israel, unless there are more Israelites alive than currently many will admit to.

Many generalize all these upcoming events. Does anyone recognize the severity and enormous amount of death that will soon happen? 100% of all of Adam's flesh and blood has to come to a physical end. Even premil whitewash, thinking the majority just slips into the Millennium.

There is no slipping by nor escaping the end of sin and death by sin. It literally is the end of life as we know it.

It was pointed out that God would not let nuclear bombs destroy the earth, yet in the 6th Seal all mountains and continents are moved out of their places. I am thinking human do not even have the nuclear capability to do what God Himself will do. Nukes cause radioactive waste, yet how else is famine and plague to happen? Are there even enough nukes to cause famine and plagues? I agree God does not need any help, but perhaps God allows that destruction via Satan's authority, just like God allowed tribulation upon Job via Satan's authority. I doubt God is going to punish humans for using their own devices, but allowing humans to destroy their own flesh has precedent in the book of Job. Satan was the instigator then, and probably stirring up the tribulation about to descend on humanity now.

But certainly God is about to do way more than anything humans could possibly achieve. I am sure Satan will step up and try to take all the credit anyway.

The bible says nothing about any 6%
it just says 1/4 from war, famine, disease and beasts of the earth (which beasts in Revelation are world empires I believe)
A nuclear war between "beasts of the earth" like US, UK, France, vs Russia and China (and I guess North Korea) would cause all those things.. death from blast and heat injuries would be by sword, the fallout would cause famine as all current crops would be contaminated and the topsoil would be contaminated, meaning nobody'd be able to plant crops, most livestock would die, so you want a famine? Nuclear war is one of the most profound ways to create one, not to mention the damage it does to the ozone, with the increased UV rays... crops simply won't grow, even after the soil is cleaned up, pestilence? well first you have deaths from acute radiation sickness, that peak in the first 6 weeks (as red blood cells die off and irradiated bone marrow is incapable of producing more.. aplastic anemia just wipes people out), and later, cancers. That's pestilence.

So yeah.. fourth seal COULD be a a nuclear war.
does that mean it will be? No. totally speculation. It fits, but I'm not going to read it into the scripture.

All we know for sure is the bible says 1/4 of the earth's population in a short time span by those 4 causes.
It doesn't divide it up into any proportions.

 

[Timtofly]

So.. this came out today. Putin looks just as stressed as I'd imagine our own leadership is
He feels backed into a corner. If he cannot get the assurance that Ukraine won't join NATO then he feels direct conflict with NATO is unavoidable because he believes Ukraine will try to retake Crimea (which is understandable.. Russia made that land grab illegally years ago, but it is something that Russia won't back down from having as it's their only warm water port that doesn't freeze up over the winter)
If there's anything that would truly risk rational people making an irrational decision... it's stress and feeling like they have no alternatives.

Who is putting the hook in whose mouth?

Putin complained Macron grilled him for 6 hours....

 

[Jamdoc]

Who is putting the hook in whose mouth?

Putin complained Macron grilled him for 6 hours....

Russia isn't part of Ezekiel 38.
man I get tired of this awful eisegesis.

 

[Timtofly]

Russia.
*clap*
is.
*clap*
not.
*clap*
"rosh".
*clap*

I challenge anyone who believes the nonsensical claim that "rosh" in Ezekiel 38 is Russia, to find me anywhere else in the bible, where the hebrew word "rosh" is anything but referring to a chief, head, or root, a description of position, not an ethnic group.
In fact I challenge anyone who believes this.. to find me "another" instance in the 599 uses of the term, where it's a people group or nation.

and why it matters is because it's TERRIBLE hermeneutics 598 times the word "rosh" is a positional description, signifying the head or chief or root of something, signifying importance.
You're going to tell me this ONE time in the bible it means a people group NOT in the table of nations while every other name listed is in the table of nations?

Listen people, this is a hangeron from when the soviet union was founded and was the enemy of the west (and in some ways they still are) and it became trendy to point out "ah.. Rosh sounds like Rush... Russia! See our communist enemies are EVIL!" It's EISIGESIS reading a narrative INTO scripture. You would not come to this interpretation from scripture alone!

I'm not basing calling out rosh is not Russia based on a political world view. I'm calling it out because the word simply isn't used as a nation name anywhere in the bible.

If you want to make ANY connection between what's happening in Europe, with what happens in Ezekiel 38, it is more likely the fact that neither Russia NOR the US factor into Ezekiel 38 and 39.. so whatever world war could spark between Russia and the US, cripples us both to the point where we are both no longer factors in global politics, leaving a power vacuum for countries like the mid east (and it would make the mentions of swords and horses being used in battle more likely to be literal if it's post clash of USA and Russia)

I think the point is: that if it happens, Russia will be more surprised than you will be.

You should not be surprised, just wrong.

The issue is that war is already on the Israeli border. Syria is already the hook. Turkey, Russia, Iran, some NATO, and some US troops already in Syria, and knowing how many of each nation there is not a given.

Personally it seems the Gog Magog war has come and fizzled out. Mainly because the Syrian conflict has been ongoing for a decade already. Even Turkey trying to gain land in Syria amounted to very little. This conflict was already in the territory from the Euphrates to the southwest a lot of the territory given to Abraham. No prophecy declared Israel had to be in control of the Land, just that Israel would be effected. If there is a push for Jerusalem by a national coalition, then Jesus would step in. That Russia is involved in Syria is already a given. That Russia needs an excuse to place an excessive amount of troops in Syria would be the hook. Even if Russia had a million troops in Syria does not mean Russia attacks Israel. Certainly it would not be Russia fighting for Israel.

It is interesting that Russia has given up more Jews than other European states. Perhaps more on the lines of "let my people go"? More people have left Russia for Israel, than left Egypt at the time of Moses.

 

[Jamdoc]

I think the point is: that if it happens, Russia will be more surprised than you will be.

You should not be surprised, just wrong.

The issue is that war is already on the Israeli border. Syria is already the hook. Turkey, Russia, Iran, some NATO, and some US troops already in Syria, and knowing how many of each nation there is not a given.

Personally it seems the Gog Magog war has come and fizzled out. Mainly because the Syrian conflict has been ongoing for a decade already. Even Turkey trying to gain land in Syria amounted to very little. This conflict was already in the territory from the Euphrates to the southwest a lot of the territory given to Abraham. No prophecy declared Israel had to be in control of the Land, just that Israel would be effected. If there is a push for Jerusalem by a national coalition, then Jesus would step in. That Russia is involved in Syria is already a given. That Russia needs an excuse to place an excessive amount of troops in Syria would be the hook. Even if Russia had a million troops in Syria does not mean Russia attacks Israel. Certainly it would not be Russia fighting for Israel.

It is interesting that Russia has given up more Jews than other European states. Perhaps more on the lines of "let my people go"? More people have left Russia for Israel, than left Egypt at the time of Moses.

There's nothing in scripture saying Russia is in Ezekiel 38.
rosh means "head" or "chief" not Russia.
Gog is the chief/head prince of Meshech, and Tubal, and he's from Magog all Turkish peoples. Gomer and Togarmah are also peoples that settled in Turkey.

 

[Timtofly]

Russia isn't part of Ezekiel 38.
man I get tired of this awful eisegesis.

It is already a done deal. Tired happened 4 years ago. How many times can this coalition of nations be in the ME? Once. It only takes one time to fulfill a prophecy. You can deny Russia being in Ezekiel 38. But certainly Russia is involved in Syria and nothing can change that historical fact.

 

[Jamdoc]

It is already a done deal. Tired happened 4 years ago. How many times can this coalition of nations be in the ME? Once. It only takes one time to fulfill a prophecy. You can deny Russia being in Ezekiel 38. But certainly Russia is involved in Syria and nothing can change that historical fact.

Sure, and USA is involved with Israel historically and would come to their defense if they were invaded.

But in Ezekiel 38? Nobody comes to their aid.
USA is either unwilling... or.. more likely.. incapable of providing help
One of the ways that can happen? USA goes to war with Russia and we destroy each other. It won't be just, USA gets destroyed, and Russia stays strong to lead some coalition against Israel because "Rosh sounds like Russia dude!"
The Ohio class submarines alone have enough ordinance to destroy Russia.

 

[Aldebaran]

Sure, and USA is involved with Israel historically and would come to their defense if they were invaded.

But in Ezekiel 38? Nobody comes to their aid.
USA is either unwilling... or.. more likely.. incapable of providing help
One of the ways that can happen? USA goes to war with Russia and we destroy each other. It won't be just, USA gets destroyed, and Russia stays strong to lead some coalition against Israel because "Rosh sounds like Russia dude!"
The Ohio class submarines alone have enough ordinance to destroy Russia.

Or maybe biden will still be president when Israel is attacked, and decides it's "not in our best interest" to get involved. Considering how he just gave billions more dollars to Iran, it should be no surprise to anyone if biden places higher value on a country other than Israel.

 

[Jamdoc]

Or maybe biden will still be president when Israel is attacked, and decides it's "not in our best interest" to get involved. Considering how he just gave billions more dollars to Iran, it should be no surprise to anyone if biden places higher value on a country other than Israel.

Possibly, but think more likely all the superpowers are gone before Ezekiel 38.

 

[Aldebaran]

Possibly, but think more likely all the superpowers are gone before Ezekiel 38.

Even China?

 

[Oseas]

What does the Word of GOD say?

JESUS warned: Matt. 24:v.6-8:
6 Ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet. (Comment: This is fulfilling literally and will continue in future by indefinite days, day after day).

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: (Comments): Understand. For now the fulfilment of this prophecy is in stand by because we are in the beginning of sorrows. Actually, the extension of this prophecy goes far, very far, inimaginable, because the chastisements have its beginning, yeah, its beginning, but it WILL NEVER END, it WILL NEVER STOP, BUT NEVER, the punishment is ETERNAL, it is for ever and ever, understand? Once the Word of GOD says it is nation against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, understand, there will not be any kind of "Federation" or Confederation, and also there will not be United groups or Organizations which still there are today or in the current time as such :
UN - United Nations Organization
NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization
OAS - Organization of American States
WTO - World Trade Organization
UNESCO - United Nations Organization for Education, Science and Culture
OECD - Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
BIRD - International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
IMF - International Monetary Fund
WHO - World Health Organization
ILO - International Labor Organization,
G-7
G-20
and others;

Be sure that ALL, but ALL, will be destroyed, will be DISSOLVED, yeah, DISSOLVED, like an GIGANTIC IMPLOSION, by analogy, something like the inimaginable fall of the two TOWERS of the WTC-Word Trade Center, so the confusion or mess is done, in other words, the hell's fire starts to burn, the eternal fire, yeah, forever and ever.

For better understand of you and ALL, I remember 2 Peter 3:v.7 to 18:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, yeah, now, even now, by the same Word are kept in store-the Word is GOD- , reserved unto fire against this Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of this Day of GOD, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be DISSOLVED, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

FOR NOW, we are in the beginning of sorrows, but the sorrows will be incrased exceedingly and the torment too. As is written in Luke 21:v.26-27: ,
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Be careful or get ready

Revelation 6:v.14-17
The heaven (heaven? Ephesians 1:v.3 among others-Check it- , by the way, the heaven which are now.) will be departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and (by alegory) every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great Day (THE SEVENTH AND LAST DAY OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM) of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

 

[Jamdoc]

Even China?

Well they could be "the kings of the east" but we don't know for sure. Either way they're not involved in Ezekiel 38
Or they could also get wiped out, as they are currently aligned with Russia, similarly UK and France and most of Europe would get wiped out in such a war.
What the bible describes in prophecy is very mid east focused. Israel and surrounding nations and then somewhat more distant neighbors like Turkey, Iran, and Libiya... but not places really far away.

The superpower nations we currently have, are just not relevant in the narrative in the bible. Either they're crippled and no longer world powers.. or they aren't directly involved or at least not in leadership roles in their involvement.
It's very Israelcentric.

 

[keras]

It's very Israelcentric.

This is right.
Bible Prophecy is focused on the Middle East region; specifically; the Holy Land -from the Nile to the Euphrates. Deuteronomy 11:11-12

Soon the Lord will act to throw out all the evil neighbors, including apostate Judah. Jeremiah 12:14, Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Zephaniah 1:14-18

 

[Aldebaran]

Well they could be "the kings of the east" but we don't know for sure. Either way they're not involved in Ezekiel 38
Or they could also get wiped out, as they are currently aligned with Russia, similarly UK and France and most of Europe would get wiped out in such a war.
What the bible describes in prophecy is very mid east focused. Israel and surrounding nations and then somewhat more distant neighbors like Turkey, Iran, and Libiya... but not places really far away.

The superpower nations we currently have, are just not relevant in the narrative in the bible. Either they're crippled and no longer world powers.. or they aren't directly involved or at least not in leadership roles in their involvement.
It's very Israelcentric.

All the "riders on horseback" references also make me wonder if there was an EMP event that took place over the entire area (even from nukes or the sun) that wiped out most technology. That would not only explain why people are back to fighting on horseback again, but also why distant nations aren't involved.