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Psychic ability and Christians

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Some people describe the possibility of various psychic ability... I wonder how Christians relate to that.
If you had psychic ability.. works you use it, or would it always be a bad thing? Could it every be a good thing?
 
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Some people describe the possibility of various psychic ability... I wonder how Christians relate to that.
If you had psychic ability.. works you use it, or would it always be a bad thing? Could it every be a good thing?
Would you even know it was not normal, if you didn't know it was unusual?

But there are all sorts of things I consider psychic because others do, that come natural to some people. I don't really care what you call it.

Some people, and I think it has been documented between twins, can feel if something is wrong, sad, or happy with some particular other person, without any communication or reason that we know of why they should know. Some people can walk blindfolded in the dark down a hallway, and never hit either side. Some people have an uncanny way of knowing what someone else is thinking (though that's a little less on the psychic side).

If those are Christians, why should that be a problem?

What's a problem is when it becomes divination, occult and witchcraft.
 
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Would you even know it was not normal, if you didn't know it was unusual?

But there are all sorts of things I consider psychic because others do, that come natural to some people. I don't really care what you call it.

Some people, and I think it has been documented between twins, can feel if something is wrong, sad, or happy with some particular other person, without any communication or reason that we know of why they should know. Some people can walk blindfolded in the dark down a hallway, and never hit either side. Some people have an uncanny way of knowing what someone else is thinking (though that's a little less on the psychic side).

If those are Christians, why should that be a problem?

What's a problem is when it becomes divination, occult and witchcraft.
I think if God is getting the glory and the person is submitted to the word then yes, they can know things. Every Christian should have some guidance from God, as He has promised us that. Some will have extraordinary abilities because of various gifts of the spirit. I think trouble could arise for a Christian if one is trying to use the gift in a way that does not glorify God or in a way that he has not intended. Sometimes Christians too might clog up their channel, if they try to use anything that has roots or ways that are outside of God. This includes what many consider innocent things like horoscopes and even reading a fortune cookie. Plus of course the things you mention. Since we are to desire earnestly spiritual gifts, it is not wrong to want to tap into God to try and help yourself or others. Just know it has to align with the word and if it is from God, it will be accurate. Though you may ask, it cannot be manufactured or expected all the time. It is as God wills.
 
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Some people describe the possibility of various psychic ability... I wonder how Christians relate to that.
If you had psychic ability.. works you use it, or would it always be a bad thing? Could it every be a good thing?
Psychic abilities are abilities that are derived from the brain inside the physical body.

Since the Christian faith places emphasis on developing the spiritual body through faith, being a psychic is an unnecessary distraction.
 
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Psychic abilities are abilities that are derived from the brain inside the physical body.

Since the Christian faith places emphasis on developing the spiritual body through faith, being a psychic is an unnecessary distraction.

I have both spiritual gifts and psychic abilities.

My experience is quite different from what you said. Developing our "spirit" or "soul" and perhaps be granted one of the spiritual gifts isn't just through mere faith. There's actually lots of work towards building a solid routine or discipline. Two of the familiar components are fasting....and lots of it done on a regular basis (denying ourselves) and subjecting ourselves to hardships or difficulties including physical difficulties that may include grueling exercise (carrying our cross). The third component is trauma which can be physical, mental, psychological, and emotional (brokenness or having a "broken spirit").

Ironically the very same things have also granted me psychic abilities. The Bible doesn't actually place a limit on what supernatural abilities can consist of. That's for another discussion if you disagree. Jesus both demonstrated and taught in the Bible there is probably no limit on what supernatural ability is available for both Him and His followers. Supernatural abilities that Jesus demonstrated in the Bible but are rarely or even never talked about in church like levitation, auto/tele-kinesis/flight, shape-shifting, etc.

It's all the same. Evil people can also manifest these things but do differently to manifest these things like conducting abominable rituals.
 
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Some people describe the possibility of various psychic ability... I wonder how Christians relate to that.
If you had psychic ability.. works you use it, or would it always be a bad thing? Could it every be a good thing?
How do you define/describe "psychic ability"?
 
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Jesus demonstrated in the Bible but are rarely or even never talked about in church like levitation, auto/tele-kinesis/flight, shape-shifting, etc.

It's all the same. Evil people can also manifest these things but do differently to manifest these things like conducting abominable rituals.
I agree that this is what we find in spiritism/spiritualism.
 
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I agree that this is what we find in spiritism/spiritualism.

I'd simply call the evil version "abomination". "Spiritualism" is a vague term for many.

"Psychic abilities" that is gained through Biblical means is probably same as supernatural gifts or gifts of Holy Spirit. Most Christians are just unfamiliar with it that's why they call it "psychic".

The only component partially common with both good and evil versions is trauma. This is referred in the Bible as "broken" or "poor" in spirit. Although the evil version, the trauma is inflicted intentionally or deliberately.

It's practically like the "Force" in Star Wars. Similar results, different means.
 
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I have both spiritual gifts and psychic abilities.

My experience is quite different from what you said. Developing our "spirit" or "soul" and perhaps be granted one of the spiritual gifts isn't just through mere faith. There's actually lots of work towards building a solid routine or discipline. Two of the familiar components are fasting....and lots of it done on a regular basis (denying ourselves) and subjecting ourselves to hardships or difficulties including physical difficulties that may include grueling exercise (carrying our cross). The third component is trauma which can be physical, mental, psychological, and emotional (brokenness or having a "broken spirit").

Ironically the very same things have also granted me psychic abilities. The Bible doesn't actually place a limit on what supernatural abilities can consist of. That's for another discussion if you disagree. Jesus both demonstrated and taught in the Bible there is probably no limit on what supernatural ability is available for both Him and His followers. Supernatural abilities that Jesus demonstrated in the Bible but are rarely or even never talked about in church like levitation, auto/tele-kinesis/flight, shape-shifting, etc.

It's all the same. Evil people can also manifest these things but do differently to manifest these things like conducting abominable rituals.
In short, Psychic abilities come from the flesh brain, and use the physical body. The letters of the new testament speak in a negative context against "the flesh."

The Spirit is different than the soul, the Spirit was made dead in Adam through sin, and made alive in people born again through the Holy Spirit. By developing the spiritual body as Christianity understands it, one develops a consciousness (or mind of Christ) that psychic phenomenon cannot touch.

Since "the flesh" cannot discern "the things of the spirit" this is because it is dead to it, and hostile to what it cannot touch or understand. The two are always running parallel. The psychic phenomenon is a counterfeit of the spirit and sometimes results in not being able to develop the spiritual body and mind because the "speaking power" of "the flesh" simply becomes louder.
 
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Some people describe the possibility of various psychic ability... I wonder how Christians relate to that.
If you had psychic ability.. works you use it, or would it always be a bad thing? Could it every be a good thing?
Psychic abilities refer to a range of supposed extra-sensory perceptions. A "gut feeling" that something isn't right is an example of a psychic ability, although it is a more positive example. However, the term "psychic" includes both positive abilities and those related to darkness, such as mediumship, necromancy, and card reading. This makes it challenging to distinguish between positive and negative when using the umbrella term "psychic".

To avoid confusion and misinterpretation, a better approach might be to use specific terms to describe these abilities. For instance, instead of saying someone is "psychic", it would be more accurate to say they have a spiritual gift and explicitly state what that gift is. As a result, we can draw a clear line between abilities (spiritual gifts) that are from GOD and those that are not. By using specific terms, we can avoid the negative connotations often associated with the term "psychic", which has historically been linked to dark magic and the occult.
 
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Some people describe the possibility of various psychic ability... I wonder how Christians relate to that.
If you had psychic ability.. works you use it, or would it always be a bad thing? Could it every be a good thing?

I have the opposite of psychic ability, and I use it every day.
 
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If you had psychic ability.. works you use it, or would it always be a bad thing? Could it every be a good thing?

If Trump getting elected is a bad thing.

I have both supernatural gifts like prophecy plus psychic abilities. Unfortunately, the extent I can see the future is not extensive. It's like trying to stream a 4k movie on primitive dialup internet.

So I don't always know if the outcome of me trying to affect things supernaturally will be positive or negative.

Using my gifts for large monetary profit also doesn't seem to work. It only seems to work if I'm only going to make a little profit from it. Perhaps this might explain why some of the most powerful witches in myths don't demand money for payment but something that could enhance their abilities (which isn't money and is often blood sacrifice which we also read so often in our very own Bibles!) and why the majority of Christians don't really experience supernatural things due to allowing huge influence of money and material things over their lives.

I've always tried to use what I believe to possess. With great power comes great responsibility. Doing absolutely nothing about your gifts is not good stewardship of what is given you. If God blessed with lots of money and you're using most of it for yourself and your family, you'd account for it in the day of judgement.

You're bound to fail but that's the point of failing so we learn. What's worse is never trying. Not using a gift is misplaced humility/righteousness, self delusion. Snap out of it.
 
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If Trump getting elected is a bad thing.

I have both supernatural gifts like prophecy plus psychic abilities. Unfortunately, the extent I can see the future is not extensive. It's like trying to stream a 4k movie on primitive dialup internet.

So I don't always know if the outcome of me trying to affect things supernaturally will be positive or negative.

Using my gifts for large monetary profit also doesn't seem to work. It only seems to work if I'm only going to make a little profit from it. Perhaps this might explain why some of the most powerful witches in myths don't demand money for payment but something that could enhance their abilities (which isn't money and is often blood sacrifice which we also read so often in our very own Bibles!) and why the majority of Christians don't really experience supernatural things due to allowing huge influence of money and material things over their lives.

I've always tried to use what I believe to possess. With great power comes great responsibility. Doing absolutely nothing about your gifts is not good stewardship of what is given you. If God blessed with lots of money and you're using most of it for yourself and your family, you'd account for it in the day of judgement.

You're bound to fail but that's the point of failing so we learn. What's worse is never trying. Not using a gift is misplaced humility/righteousness, self delusion. Snap out of it.
You are aware of the Biblical definition of true vs false prophet?
 
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Some people describe the possibility of various psychic ability... I wonder how Christians relate to that.
If you had psychic ability.. works you use it, or would it always be a bad thing? Could it every be a good thing?
I think some incredibly holy people can have spiritual gifts, but I take most so called psychics with a grain of salt.

Blessings
 
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My extra sensory perceptions and extra biblical spiritual gifts appear, in hindsight now, to be limited by the free will of the person they concern.

So this tells me it is a spiritual gift and not a mental flesh perceptor

Now, for a human example. My coworker ja likes me. She lives with her bf, im married, and we have talked enough i have figured out she is on the dissociative spectrum. Ffor months i was a bit naive to the "tension" inside her, which was making conversation difficult starting about 6 months ago. Till one day i was pondering what was going on, and part of my own mind plainly told me "she likes you". I laughed.

So, that was my own mind.

Now for what was not my own mind: 4 or 5 times across 6 weeks starting in november 2024, while not at work, i had a distinct sense that an 8 year old girl was watching me. It didnt feel like an evil spirit at all. 4 times it happened wnd i would reply to the girl telepathically as if its part of my ex's mind. This didnt help. I was also on the alert, at church, to see if any 8 to 12 year old girls were not completely ignoring me as is usual. none were not ignoring me completely.

One day the girl showed up in my minds eye and along with it I had a sixth sense to go to work, so i did, and i found my coworker in an unnaturally depressed state, she didn't look at me, appeared half asleep, absolutely not normal. so this got me thinking, what if its her?

The next time i saw that 8 yr old girl i told her to pray and ask Jesus to help Ja, and when i told her my phone number, i saw an adult face enter the room so to speak, and the experience ended. (in real life i do not know her phone number, nor does she know mine)

And since then, my coworker seems to be doing better, there is no weird tension in our conversations.

I have decided not to tell her about these experiences i had because she may harden her heart and not let that 8 yr old part of her mind pray to Jesus.

So. Was that psychic or not? I don't know...

this is not the wierdest experience i've had.

i had a GF briefly in 2017, before we met she was in the room and i heard a human spirit cry out for help. my first thought was "oh no, W is going to get drunk again and cry about his dead mom" turns out i heard KA's spirit and when she asked me 6 weeks later "why are you so nice to me" and i replied "because i knew you were hurt" she uh.. shut down and we didn't have much of a relationship after that. but yeah, part of her spirit, absolutely wanted help. part did not. the part that wanted help is what i heard from, and was the part that was initially interested in me.

My wife has seen into my own childhood from before she was born.. and i have seen what someone did to her. there have been a wide variety of other experiences i can't make a lot of sense of. but what i do know is that if you pray about these things and ask Jesus what to do about it.. you'll get advice: as much as you need.


i healed a girls depression through the spiritual realm (i rarely have spoken to her because of her attraction to me) and i've been debating for 3 years now how to talk to the girls mother about this because i know that she knows that something was going on between us. (the mother did directly ask me to pray for her daughter at one point) A year later it was revealed to me the mother doesn't know why her daughter was depressed because her daughter wasn't giving consent to God sharing that information with her. so i asked God to open the mother's eyes. and it appears He did because the mother seems to no longer be interested in talking to me...

so yeah, people get kicked out of churches for less.

there are a handful of other people i need to initiate these kinds of conversations with....
 
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there is a weird subreddit where people post photos of their dolls.. to ask if there are spirits attached to them or not.

you might pray about whether or not you want to test your discernment on such matters. i tend to think.. its absolutely real. just.. not testable enough.

like asking AI engines to translate your private prayer language... i have mixed feelings about that.
 
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Sinful, sinful spirit. Not any kind of gift from above (from heaven nor from God).
there is this weird subgroup of christians who insist nothing interesting happens at all.. you seem to be one of them....
Whenever people post photos to get other people's attention,
there is a wrong spirit in those people posting the photos.
i am not talking about sex dolls.

actual ceramic china dolls (which have always creeped me out)
 
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There appears to be no understanding at all here.
Also including the non sequitur of dolls.
do you have something productive to add to the conversation or just here to harass me?

people, far and wide, report dolls having spiritual attachments. this is a near globally universal thing, and not just dolls, but many types of childrens toys.

I forget if it was on this website or a person i know in real life, mentioned they destroy photographs of people after they die. its not superstition, but just protective measures to cut off any mental and emotional attachment they have to the dead.

ever look at a photo and you instantly know the person in it is dead?

what spiritual gift is that?
 
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I don't if this is psyche ability but more some sort of connection that God uses that may give use signs or cause us to act at a certain time rather than others that God uses to help us. Even in small matters. I will give an example that only happened today.

My sons bed was a wreck from falling apart. I only had a limited budget. That was one of several issues I had to deal with. But today for some reason but I think as we have been going through some tough times I was calling to God more often than usual.

Anyway today I got motivated just to get my sons bed. I looked in the for sale ads and low and behoild around the corner, well actually about 2 km down the road was a man giving away a bed. I went to get it and it was near new with a great mattress. He offered top put it on his ute and followed me home and delivered it.

I helped him dismatle the bed and we got talking. He was about my age so we had a lot in common. He was selling up to go live in the countryside which I am aiming to do. I mentioned I volunteered at a local homeless support organisation and we got talking about how the church is helping the homeless crisis at the moment in our ares.

He says his dad was a Salvation Army Captain in Sydney at William Booth INstitute which happened to be the place that saved my life from the streets as an addict. His father Captain Linguard was the head when I was going through.

I think Peter his name was was not a Christian. He had been in the army and said he did not get into all that stuff. So I was able to give my testimony and his dad helped me. So he can take that with him when he moves to the mountains to reflect on. Praise God.

Oh and my son gets a nerw new beautiful bed. Problem solved :clap:
 
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