Paul was still keeping the Feast Days years after Jesus death, but weren't they abolished?

[SAAN]

1 Corinthians 11:1
1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

-Paul says we are to imitate him like he did Christ, so lets see what Paul did. Here are examples of 5 of the 7 feasts being kept.


Day of Pentecost
Acts 2:1
2 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[a] in one place.

-How did the receive the holy spirit after Jesus died? They were observing the Day of Pentecost that Sunday.

Acts 20:16
16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the Day of Pentecost.

-Paul was hurrying to observe this feast and Jesus has been dead for years.

1 Corinthians 16:8
8 But I will tarry in Ephesus until Pentecost.

-Paul is keeping this feast in Ephesus.

Passover and Unleavened Bread
Acts 20:6(NKJV)
6 But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days.

-Why even mention Unleavened Bread, if it was abolished and no longer being observed. Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 5:7-8
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.[a] 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

-Paul here is telling the New Testament Christians to keep the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 11:23-25
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat;[a] this is My body which is broken[b] for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

-Paul is describing the New Testament Passover service, that Jesus established with His disciples on the night before His crucifixion. From the above passages we see that Paul commanded the Gentiles in the city of Corinth to keep Gods Holy Days.

Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread


Feast of Tabernacles
Acts 18:20-21
20 When they asked him to stay a longer time with them, he did not consent, 21 but took leave of them, saying, “I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing.” And he sailed from Ephesus.

The Day of Atonement
Acts 27:9-10
9 Now when much time had been spent, and sailing was now dangerous because the Fast was already over, Paul advised them, 10 saying, “Men, I perceive that this voyage will end with disaster and much loss, not only of the cargo and ship, but also our lives.”

-Paul is referring to the Fast on the Day of Atonement. Luke wrote the book of Acts many years after Christ’s death and he referred to the Day of Atonement calling it the “Fast”




So why was Paul still observing all of these Feasts years after Christ death, if they were abolished and no longer needed?

Wouldnt Paul have received the revelations on the road to Damascus, when Jesus revealed himself to him that they were no longer needed?

 

[John 1:1 GodCZU]

Paul was a Pharisee. He was one of the most learned men among the disciples. If he kept the feast days after Christ there was a reason for it.
Of course there are some people who think everything in Jewish practice was abolished after Christ arose from the grave. That's not true either.

 

[Meowzltov]

Great post Saan. For Jews even today, the feasts are still relavant.

 

[sahjimira]

I am not a Jew but they have great relevance for me. I believe they incorporate the past, present and future. Also I think they have much deeper meanings than some would think.

 

[Frogster]

1 Corinthians 11:1
1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

-Paul says we are to imitate him like he did Christ, so lets see what Paul did. Here are examples of 5 of the 7 feasts being kept.


Day of Pentecost
Acts 2:1
2 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[a] in one place.

-How did the receive the holy spirit after Jesus died? They were observing the Day of Pentecost that Sunday.

Acts 20:16
16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the Day of Pentecost.

-Paul was hurrying to observe this feast and Jesus has been dead for years.

1 Corinthians 16:8
8 But I will tarry in Ephesus until Pentecost.

-Paul is keeping this feast in Ephesus.

Passover and Unleavened Bread
Acts 20:6(NKJV)
6 But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days.

-Why even mention Unleavened Bread, if it was abolished and no longer being observed. Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 5:7-8
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.[a] 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

-Paul here is telling the New Testament Christians to keep the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 11:23-25
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat;[a] this is My body which is broken[b] for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

-Paul is describing the New Testament Passover service, that Jesus established with His disciples on the night before His crucifixion. From the above passages we see that Paul commanded the Gentiles in the city of Corinth to keep Gods Holy Days.

Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread


Feast of Tabernacles
Acts 18:20-21
20 When they asked him to stay a longer time with them, he did not consent, 21 but took leave of them, saying, “I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing.” And he sailed from Ephesus.

The Day of Atonement
Acts 27:9-10
9 Now when much time had been spent, and sailing was now dangerous because the Fast was already over, Paul advised them, 10 saying, “Men, I perceive that this voyage will end with disaster and much loss, not only of the cargo and ship, but also our lives.”

-Paul is referring to the Fast on the Day of Atonement. Luke wrote the book of Acts many years after Christ’s death and he referred to the Day of Atonement calling it the “Fast”




So why was Paul still observing all of these Feasts years after Christ death, if they were abolished and no longer needed?

Wouldnt Paul have received the revelations on the road to Damascus, when Jesus revealed himself to him that they were no longer needed?

Why didn't Paul go to the Jerusalem Temple for 17 years after his conversion? No temple, and no feast keeping.

The Corinthian 5 verse was a metaphore, symbolic language. Why would Paul give the Judaizers ammo against him, by telling his church to go to temple, get circumcised, to keep the feasts? Please!

And 1 cor 11 , was about the new cov, not the old cov, we do not use animal blood, that was the Jewish Passover for the egyptian event, you are over pressing 1 Cor 11.

What does Acts 12 prove, especially about Paul!? lol..

Also, the feasts were calendrical by nature, we might say here, I will see you after the holidays, even though some don't celebrate them. Paul was trying for a long timer to get to Jerusalem, but it was not for feast keeping as you make it to be, it was for the gospel, and better to preach when it would be crowded, and hey, maybe he wanted to see old friends, no big deal, but this post does not mean kept feasts.

He was trying to go to Jerusalem in those upper Acts verses to...to.........read the bold, it is clear as a bell..ding..ding.. It says why....



Acts 20 22 And now, behold, I am going to Jerusalem, constrained by the Spirit, not knowing what will happen to me there, 23 except that the Holy Spirit testifies to me in every city that imprisonment and afflictions await me. 24 But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God.

 

[Frogster]

1 Corinthians 11:1
1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

-Paul says we are to imitate him like he did Christ, so lets see what Paul did. Here are examples of 5 of the 7 feasts being kept.


Day of Pentecost
Acts 2:1
2 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[a] in one place.

-How did the receive the holy spirit after Jesus died? They were observing the Day of Pentecost that Sunday.

Acts 20:16
16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the Day of Pentecost.

-Paul was hurrying to observe this feast and Jesus has been dead for years.

1 Corinthians 16:8
8 But I will tarry in Ephesus until Pentecost.

-Paul is keeping this feast in Ephesus.

Passover and Unleavened Bread
Acts 20:6(NKJV)
6 But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days.

-Why even mention Unleavened Bread, if it was abolished and no longer being observed. Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 5:7-8
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.[a] 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

-Paul here is telling the New Testament Christians to keep the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 11:23-25
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat;[a] this is My body which is broken[b] for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

-Paul is describing the New Testament Passover service, that Jesus established with His disciples on the night before His crucifixion. From the above passages we see that Paul commanded the Gentiles in the city of Corinth to keep Gods Holy Days.

Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread


Feast of Tabernacles
Acts 18:20-21
20 When they asked him to stay a longer time with them, he did not consent, 21 but took leave of them, saying, “I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing.” And he sailed from Ephesus.

The Day of Atonement
Acts 27:9-10
9 Now when much time had been spent, and sailing was now dangerous because the Fast was already over, Paul advised them, 10 saying, “Men, I perceive that this voyage will end with disaster and much loss, not only of the cargo and ship, but also our lives.”

-Paul is referring to the Fast on the Day of Atonement. Luke wrote the book of Acts many years after Christ’s death and he referred to the Day of Atonement calling it the “Fast”




So why was Paul still observing all of these Feasts years after Christ death, if they were abolished and no longer needed?

Wouldnt Paul have received the revelations on the road to Damascus, when Jesus revealed himself to him that they were no longer needed?

PS, Acts 2;1, when the spirit came, that also ended the feasts...hehehe

The promised Spirit came (Pentecost) after law redemption, see the chronology in these passages for proof. The Spirit came after the law...a feast day, Pentecost, actually marked that out...there ya go....


Gal 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.


Gal 4:4 But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6 And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!

 

[Frogster]

Paul was a Pharisee. He was one of the most learned men among the disciples. If he kept the feast days after Christ there was a reason for it.
Of course there are some people who think everything in Jewish practice was abolished after Christ arose from the grave. That's not true either.

Was, in his past a pharisee, but in Phil 3 he called all of that stuff 'poop", "dung", depends on what translation one reads..he did not live as a pharisee after conversion.

 

[Frogster]

Great post Saan. For Jews even today, the feasts are still relavant.

of course they do, because the unsaved Jews, still don't see that Jesus fulfilled them, so of course to them, they are relevant. But the feasts were never given to the church.

 

[John 1:1 GodCZU]

Was, in his past a pharisee, but in Phil 3 he called all of that stuff 'poop", "dung", depends on what translation one reads..he did not live as a pharisee after conversion.

“My brothers, I am a Pharisee, descended from Pharisees. I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead” (Acts 23:6).
Paul uses present tense there. I am a Pharisee.

 

[Meowzltov]

Why didn't Paul go to the Jerusalem Temple for 17 years after his conversion? No temple, and no feast keeping.

There you go again, making a claim you can't prove. And there was always a temple during Paul's day. Today, we keep the feasts without the temple. In fact, just a few hours ago, I was in synagogue for Rosh Hashana (feast of trumpets). You think you know so much about Judaism, but you don't. How about listening and learning a few things?

 

[Meowzltov]

of course they do, because the unsaved Jews, still don't see that Jesus fulfilled them, so of course to them, they are relevant. But the feasts were never given to the church.

I'm a Christian and a Jew, and the feasts are still relevant to me. You should go lurk in the Messianic Jewish forum for a while -- the saved Jews in there are enjoying the feast of Trumpets (Rosh Hashanah)

 

[Grafted In]

I think Paul had a very strong desire to see his Hebrew brethren saved, even to the point of saying he was willing to give up salvation if it would save the Jewish people. So, I think he went knowing there would be Jews from everywhere at Jerusalem to celebrate the Feasts and perhaps he thought he could bring about revival. I'm just throwing that idea out to see if others might agree to some extent. I don't think he believed it was required of him by God.

 

[Frogster]

“My brothers, I am a Pharisee, descended from Pharisees. I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead” (Acts 23:6).
Paul uses present tense there. I am a Pharisee.

Paul stressed the resurrection several times in Acts, and said he was on trial for that belief, so yes, he was as the pharisees were on that doctrine, they believed in the resurrection too, as Jesus was of the same belief as the pharisees. That was the context of chapter 26. But Paul clearly said it was all lost for Christ, calling it all poop, in phil 3.

 

[Frogster]

There you go again, making a claim you can't prove. And there was always a temple during Paul's day. Today, we keep the feasts without the temple. In fact, just a few hours ago, I was in synagogue for Rosh Hashana (feast of trumpets). You think you know so much about Judaism, but you don't. How about listening and learning a few things?

he said he DID NOT GO TO JERUSALEM FOR 14 YEARS Gal 2:1, REALLY 17 years NO TEMPLE, THAT IS A FACT. You are not really keeping the feasts.

 

[Frogster]

I'm a Christian and a Jew, and the feasts are still relevant to me. You should go lurk in the Messianic Jewish forum for a while -- the saved Jews in there are enjoying the feast of Trumpets (Rosh Hashanah)

I don't care if the saved jews observe the feasts, but they are not for the church, they were for unsaved israel.

 

[Frogster]

I think Paul had a very strong desire to see his Hebrew brethren saved, even to the point of saying he was willing to give up salvation if it would save the Jewish people. So, I think he went knowing there would be Jews from everywhere at Jerusalem to celebrate the Feasts and perhaps he thought he could bring about revival. I'm just throwing that idea out to see if others might agree to some extent. I don't think he believed it was required of him by God.

Yes! he said he was going there to finish his task, to preach the gospel of grace in Acts 20, not to follow Judaism. yes, what a perfect ideas he had, go when it is crowded, a larger audience.

 

[TheNorwegian]

This was less than convincing.Paul was not around in the events described in Acts 1 and 2... That Paul refers to the feasts says nothing about whether he kept them or not. You do not think that every person and business that refers to Christmas actually believe in the Christmas message, do you? Still, Christmas is known to most people so it makes sense to say "at Christmas time".

 

[Frogster]

This was less than convincing.Paul was not around in the events described in Acts 1 and 2... That Paul refers to the feasts says nothing about whether he kept them or not. You do not think that every person and business that refers to Christmas actually believe in the Christmas message, do you? Still, Christmas is known to most people so it makes sense to say "at Christmas time".

Exactly...

 

[Frogster]

“My brothers, I am a Pharisee, descended from Pharisees. I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead” (Acts 23:6).
Paul uses present tense there. I am a Pharisee.

It is right in the verse, he is talking about the resurrection, Paul was all about the resurrection at the trials, yes, Paul was still of that belief but he was no longer a pharisee, he did not even go to temple for 17 years.The doctrine was the issue in 26, the belief, yes, Paul was of the same belief, as was Jesus too.So that gives meaning to the "I am".




If Paul was still a pharisee, why fight them when they came to Antioch, to promote Judaism?


Acts 15:But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question.

 

[Frogster]

There you go again, making a claim you can't prove. And there was always a temple during Paul's day. Today, we keep the feasts without the temple. In fact, just a few hours ago, I was in synagogue for Rosh Hashana (feast of trumpets). You think you know so much about Judaism, but you don't. How about listening and learning a few things?

yes, there was a temple, but why didn't paul go there for 17 years? I thought some think Paul was still a practicing Jew?

Gal 4:12 says he became like his gentile converts, did converts keep feasts? lol..no!