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Oklahoma's Most "Un"Christian Christian legislative agenda

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My friend just posted this on Facebook. (We live near Oklahoma.) I can't imagine anything more un-Christian than denying child tax credits to the families who need it most! These are children Oklahoma wants to harm. And do they really think that Tulsa and OKC are the only parts of Oklahoma where there is homelessness--and spousal abuse? WWJD? (Hopefully they will consider that question before they vote.)

SB 228 offers covenant marriage as an "option." As long as it remains an option, it's morally neutral.
The ten commandments? Did you know that the Catholic ten commandments are different from the Protestant ones? Protestants separate the first in two and combine the ninth and tenth. Catholics keep the first as one and separate the ninth and tenth. There is an awful lot of material in typical classrooms and I don't think it will have much of an effect one way or another. I would sort of prefer a large poster of Mt 7:12 (the Golden Rule) or the two great commandments.

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Maybe larger municipalities are better funded by taxpayer money.

"Provisions
The bill would prohibit municipalities with a population under 300,000 from using taxpayer funds to provide services for homeless individuals.
Only cities with a population over 300,000, such as Oklahoma City and Tulsa, would be allowed to continue providing services to homeless individuals."

SB 328 should include single parents.

SB 1006 I don't think it should be placed in schools or anywhere else unless there is someone qualified to teach the kids what they mean and who they were given to. I didn't know there was two sets of commandments but I don't care because I have Jesus. If it is in school I wouldn't mind them in textbooks as long as the other religions are taught.
 
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I am in a city of about 100,000 people (not in Oklahoma) but we have a homeless shelter, other programs for homeless people (Salvation Army), food pantries, and domestic violence shelter.

Oklahoma is a large state, and restricting government funded programs to OKC and Tulsa means that a woman in an abusive situation, for example, might have to travel 150 miles or more for any help. The state has many Native Americans who live far from OKC and Tulsa who need and deserve services.

I looked, and there are four or five other cities with populations over 90,000--but most are suburbs of Tulsa or OKC.

Child tax credits should be available to adoptive parents.

I am trying to figure out the rationale for some of these laws. If I had to guess, I'd think, "Oklahoma is directly north of Texas. Are they afraid they might be housing immigrants?" In terms of the child tax credits, perhaps they want to make children of gay parents suffer economically based on their parentage?
 
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The last two I disagree with.

As to the one about divorce used to be like that what most states have now is actually called no fault divorce and is actually a fairly new concept. Reasons make it easier anyway

As to the one about homeless shelters as sad as it is to have to say that is proabaly actually a good idea in this sue happy calture.
 
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Let's just look at the first one - it is about as much misinformation as an intelligent person can stand.

Oklahoma has a grand total of four cities with populations over 100k - two o which are large enough to fit the criteria of the bill. Other than smearing the Republican led (duly elected) representatives - why would we want to limit homeless shelters to cities large enough to provide for them.


Haitian migrants overwhelming small Indiana town: ‘It’s just overrun’


There are numbers of small cities in the US that are over run and inundated by the illegal aliens the Democrats allowed to run loose and unvetted. This bill protects citizens in OK small towns from experiencing the same.
 
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Let's just look at the first one - it is about as much misinformation as an intelligent person can stand.

Oklahoma has a grand total of four cities with populations over 100k - two o which are large enough to fit the criteria of the bill. Other than smearing the Republican led (duly elected) representatives - why would we want to limit homeless shelters to cities large enough to provide for them.


Haitian migrants overwhelming small Indiana town: ‘It’s just overrun’


There are numbers of small cities in the US that are over run and inundated by the illegal aliens the Democrats allowed to run loose and unvetted. This bill protects citizens in OK small towns from experiencing the same.

"The homeless have to suffer because there are dangerous brown people afoot."

-CryptoLutheran
 
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OK SB228 - Covenant marriage - an optional form


People can CHOOSE to be under the Covenant marriage or not - it impedes on no ones choice - much complaining about absolutely NOTHING
 
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"The homeless have to suffer because there are dangerous brown people afoot."

-CryptoLutheran
I am a brown person - stop using my race for your cheap political points - it's rude, unmannerly and borderline racist.
 
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I am a brown person - stop using my race for your cheap political points - it's rude, unmannerly and borderline racist.
People should not stop referring to racism in the US just because that offends a few people here and there.
 
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And the misinformation continues

SB 328


It effects OK State tax - NOT federal income tax

OK State income tax is a whopping 4.25%, which low income people pay zero
 
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People should not stop referring to racism in the US just because that offends a few people here and there.
No - people should stop making everything the Republican do about some sort of race issue because it is wrong.
 
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No - people should stop making everything the Republican do about some sort of race issue because it is wrong.
Thats not happening here. In this case its about specific proposals.

Maybe theres something racist here. Maybe not. But you cant just declare that notion off the table because it offends you.
 
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And the misinformation continues

SB 328


It effects OK State tax - NOT federal income tax

OK State income tax is a whopping 4.25%, which low income people pay zero
And child tax "credits" would be available even to people who don't incur any state income taxes.

And since it is Republicans who have introduced these discriminatory and unnecessarily cruel laws, saying that we are trying to make Republicans look bad is ridiculous. They are obviously making themselves look bad, and they don't need our help.

In terms of restricting government aid for homeless shelters except in OKC and Tulsa, perhaps racism does have something to do with it. Oklahoma has many Native Americans, herded their involuntarily via the Trial of Tears.

Native Americans have the second highest rate of homelessness of any racial groups. Addressing Native homelessness in Tulsa requires a multifaceted approach

Restricting homeless shelters--and especially spousal abuse shelters--to large cities will be devastating to rural Oklahoma and its large Native American population.
 
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Maybe larger municipalities are better funded by taxpayer money.

"Provisions
The bill would prohibit municipalities with a population under 300,000 from using taxpayer funds to provide services for homeless individuals.
Only cities with a population over 300,000, such as Oklahoma City and Tulsa, would be allowed to continue providing services to homeless individuals."

SB 328 should include single parents.
Why?
SB 1006 I don't think it should be placed in schools or anywhere else unless there is someone qualified to teach the kids what they mean and who they were given to. I didn't know there was two sets of commandments but I don't care because I have Jesus. If it is in school I wouldn't mind them in textbooks as long as the other religions are taught.
 
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And child tax "credits" would be available even to people who don't incur any state income taxes.
Your bias seems to be without bounds....
And since it is Republicans who have introduced these discriminatory and unnecessarily cruel laws, saying that we are trying to make Republicans look bad is ridiculous. They are obviously making themselves look bad, and they don't need our help.
Then why do you spend so much time and effort trying to do just that?
In terms of restricting government aid for homeless shelters except in OKC and Tulsa, perhaps racism does have something to do with it. Oklahoma has many Native Americans, herded their involuntarily via the Trial of Tears.
WOW! That is amazing that you are equating protecting small cities from being over run with illegal aliens with an event from 200 years ago
Native Americans have the second highest rate of homelessness of any racial groups. Addressing Native homelessness in Tulsa requires a multifaceted approach
They are also an autonomous nation within OK - they have their systems. We are talking about illegal aliens over running cities. Where is the Christian Compassion for the people whose lives are ruined, who live there and pay the taxes? Do they get any compassion at all?
Restricting homeless shelters--and especially spousal abuse shelters--to large cities will be devastating to rural Oklahoma and its large Native American population.
Spousal abuse centers is manufactured in your mind - no place else.
 
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OK SB484 is disgusting.

A battered womans (sometime with kids) shelter is prohibited except in 4 cities. What awful humans concoct these things?
Here is the bill:


Show me where it speaks of battered woman's shelter (sometimes with kids).

It is yet another feigned offence IMHO
 
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Here is the bill:


Show me where it speaks of battered woman's shelter (sometimes with kids).

It is yet another feigned offence IMHO
You obviously didnt even read it. I did - before commenting.
 
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