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Narrow or difficult? Matt 7:14 translation?

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I think difficult should be the least or the last reason which stops a person become a Christian. In contrast, be a dedicated Buddhist is indeed quite difficult.

I don't think there is anything which is easier than becoming a Christian. Why don't people choose it? Yeah, it is too easy to be true.
 
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Can difficult also mean that people have not tried and failed but don't try at all? When faced with a choice between doing something difficult or doing something easy, don't people often do what is easy, even when the difficult is more beneficial to them?
 
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But my friend, consider this:

1. A person has a choice between something that is too easy and something that is too hard.

2. The thing that is too easy is more beneficial to her than the thing that is too hard.

What thing is she more likely to choose? The thing that is easier and more beneficial, or the thing that is harder and detrimental to her?
 
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Just say I do believe in Jesus Christ and I will be saved? You must be kidding. I don't even know if Jesus ever existed.
 
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Only when they think the easier one works.
 
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Because people hate God and love sin.

This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. John 3:19-20 (NASB)
 
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So which is more accurate, narrow/compressed or difficult/hard?

The word (see here) is well-understood from Classical Greek. It can mean either "narrow/squeezed" (as in Mark 3:9) or, metaphorically, "troubled/afflicted/difficult" (as in 2 Cor 1:6, 2 Cor 4:8, 2 Cor 7:5, 1 Thes 3:4, etc.).

Definitely it means the opposite of "an easy path." I think the ESV gets the translation right with "For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."

I guess that if you read Paul's story in Acts, then you will understand in what way the path can be hard. The Christians in Iraq already understand it all too well.
 
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You are right.
I forgot the pressure from outside. In that case, it is hard, very hard.
 
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Single is more accurate.
 
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Huh?

How does this relate to the Greek word in Matthew 7:14?

Without it's relationship to the way and where it leads to, all the things the definition of the word narrow means or implies falls short, or is incomplete. It must be defined by the whole of the book rather than a dictionary definition alone, similar to the word seas, or the word clouds when James referenced these to depict truths that spoke in picture form to spiritual realties which are defined by the whole of scripture, as to what they equate to in the language of God.
 
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This is not how translation works. We don't alter words based on what someone thinks the "whole of the book" says.
 
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This is not how translation works. We don't alter words based on what someone thinks the "whole of the book" says.

This is not how you translate. In reality only God can define his word just as he is the only one who reveals the son.

Do you think Paul was wrong when he called the mountain of the law Hagar and her son, where did he get this from ... certainly he did not look up all the words in a dictionary and decide that this was all that they meant.

How about Jesus when he said the scriptures testified of him as being that which they searched the scriptures for ...

Or the Hebrew writer who said God in these last days has spoken to us by son, which in reality he has always spoken to us by him, not just in these last days, which the definition of this word (son) pales in comparison to the endless truth that he is.

How many words does it take to reveal the word God ...
 
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Neither of us is Paul.

You have no idea who you are, (or what is yours), or even where Paul saw this at and how he equated it with the son being revealed in him, which relates to us and every other son (no gender implied) as much as it did Paul seeing how it is God who is the all in all (and not of the mind of man or the labor of flesh (a stone cut out without hands, or a white stone given) leaving no one to boast), which has everything to do with the word narrow and its way, and the lfe it leads to (which is to know our father).
 
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