Mexico’s president agrees to stop migration into U.S. after tariff threats, Trump says

[DaisyDay]

Yes. The comma after "United States" is where Trump ends his lose paraphrase of what Mexico agreed to. After the comma is Trump saying what the agreement could accomplish. Syntax matters. So what is migration "through" Mexico and "into" the United States? It would be the migrants coming from countries South of Mexico. Mexico has a much smaller border and is more than capable of securing it.

Ah, "loose paraphrase", that's the ticket!

 

[FenderTL5]

Yes. The comma after "United States" is where Trump ends his lose paraphrase of what Mexico agreed to. After the comma is Trump saying what the agreement could accomplish. Syntax matters. So what is migration "through" Mexico and "into" the United States? It would be the migrants coming from countries South of Mexico. Mexico has a much smaller border and is more than capable of securing it.

That's interesting. In my understanding it could/should be read without the middle section, as one complete thought, like this:
“She has agreed to stop Migration through Mexico effectively closing our Southern Border. "

 

[DaisyDay]

By strict enforcement of the laws? Great idea! Why didn't Biden and Kamala think of that?

Why hasn't anyone? I mean it's awful the way south of the border criminals make good, God-fearing Americans take their drugs! Donald put an end to this his first term, so I'm sure he'll do the same for his second!

 

[Oompa Loompa]

That's interesting. In my understanding it could/should be read without the middle section, as one complete thought, like this:
“She has agreed to stop Migration through Mexico effectively closing our Southern Border. "

Yes. With 45% of migrants stopped south of the Mexican border, the end result would effectively be a secure American southern border.

Charted: Unauthorized Immigrants in the U.S., by Country of Origin

The U.S. has over 11 million unauthorized immigrants.

www.visualcapitalist.com

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Why hasn't anyone? I mean it's awful the way south of the border criminals make good, God-fearing Americans take their drugs! Donald put an end to this his first term, so I'm sure he'll do the same for his second!

Trump is going to declare drug cartels as terrorists, essentially allowing the use of lethal force. See what I did there with the comma?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It seems as though Trump's tariff threat is also pushing Canada to finally do a lot of great things. MAKE CANADA GREAT AGAIN! I pray that Mexico does the same.

 

[FenderTL5]

Yes. With 45% of migrants stopped south of the Mexican border, the end result would effectively be a secure American southern border.

Charted: Unauthorized Immigrants in the U.S., by Country of Origin

The U.S. has over 11 million unauthorized immigrants.

www.visualcapitalist.com

That's your paraphrase of what Trump paraphrased? You still can't bring yourself to say "close the border" like Trump did?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

That's your paraphrase of what Trump paraphrased? You still can't bring yourself to say "close the border" like Trump did?

Sure. Halting 45% of the illegal immigrants south of the Mexican border would free up the U.S. Border patrol to effectively CLOSE THE BORDER and open drug cartel hunting season.

 

[DaisyDay]

Trump is going to declare drug cartels as terrorists, essentially allowing the use of lethal force.

Wouldn’t this problem be solved if Americans would just say, “No” to foreign drugs? Do we have any personal responsibility for our actions?

See what I did there with the comma?

Separated the dependent clause from the main part of the sentence? What is your position on the Oxford comma?

 

[ozso]

That's your paraphrase of what Trump paraphrased? You still can't bring yourself to say "close the border" like Trump did?

Close the border altogether? Or close the border to illegal entry? Is the president of Mexico saying she'll leave the border open on her end to facilitate illegal entry into the US?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Wouldn’t this problem be solved if Americans would just say, “No” to foreign drugs?

Yes. Just like we can solve all crime problems is people would just say no to crime.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Do we have any personal responsibility for our actions?

Yes. It is called criminal convictions for drug use and possession. Perhaps another solution to the drug problem is just incarcerate all drug users. If we cannot eliminate the supply, why not eliminate the demand through mass incarceration? Is that what you are going for? It doesn't sound very kind and loving though.

But why not do both and have open season cartel hunting and mass convictions of drug addicts?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

The great part of that is we'll have better paying jobs if we bring manufacturing back to the US.

I wont have a better job, just higher prices.

 

[DaisyDay]

Yes. It is called criminal convictions for drug use and possession.

Or, hear me out, treatment and other support for addicts, mentally ill and those in chronic pain...

Perhaps another solution to the drug problem is just incarcerate all drug users.

That has not been shown to work. Draconian drug laws wreck communities as shown by our history.

If we cannot eliminate the supply, why not eliminate the demand through mass incarceration?

We already have one of the very highest incarceration rates in the world (American Samoa, Turkmenistan, Rwanda, Cuba and El Salvador beat us) but oddly enough, prisoners seem to get supplied while incarcerated.

Is that what you are going for? It doesn't sound very kind and loving though.

No, I have never advocated mass incarceration - this idea is yours, not mine.

But why not do both and have open season cartel hunting and mass convictions of drug addicts?

I don't see that as likely to succeed and it is very likely to cause more misery.

I'm not sure what you mean by "open season cartel hunting" means.

 

[durangodawood]

No ones going to be "effectively closing our Southern Border" no matter what Trump says. The idea is absurd.

 

[HARK!]

I wont have a better job,

Why not?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Why not?

Because I will have the same job.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Or, hear me out, treatment and other support for addicts, mentally ill and those in chronic pain...

Drug addicts get all that in prison.

That has not been shown to work. Draconian drug laws wreck communities as shown by our history.

Less destructive ignoring drug laws. Seattle is a mess with homeless drug addicts and people are leaving because it isn't safe. What on earth do you think wrecked havoc in the communities in Seattle? You cannot blame "draconian drug laws."

but oddly enough, prisoners seem to get supplied while incarcerated.

Well, it goes back to stopping the supply at the border.

No, I have never advocated mass incarceration - this idea is yours, not mine.

So you are advocating for open borders, no enforcement of drug crimes, and a load of wishful thinking to solve the problems of the country. I do not see that happening.

I'm not sure what you mean by "open season cartel hunting" means.

It means that not only the Border Control will not only be lifted of the strict restrictions that prevent them from dealing with the cartels, but drug cartels being declared to be terrorists make it legal to shoot them dead on sight. Hence, open terrorist hunting season.

 

[KCfromNC]

The great part of that is we'll have better paying jobs if we bring manufacturing back to the US.

And if a frog had wings...

 

[KCfromNC]

Ah, "loose paraphrase", that's the ticket!

I'm getting "it was not immediately obvious what Mr. Trump meant" vibes.