Matt Gaetz chosen by Trump for Attorney General

[Fantine]

Wow! You mean Al Capone beat most of the charges for crimes he'd committed, too?
Did he spend $100 million?
It is interesting to read your account of how much the president elect has in common with AL Capone.

 

[Valletta]

Highly doubtful. Elections--particularly unexpected ones--take a bunch of time to be able to set up, especially considering you have to have a primary first. The last time there was a special election for a Florida house seat (January 2022 for the 20th congressional district) it was nine months after the seat became empty. The special election before that, in May of 2014 for the 13th district, was a shorter gap, but still five months after it became empty. There does not appear to be sufficient time to hold a special election in just two months.

I think DeSantis can get it done quickly.

 

[Valletta]

Wow! You mean Al Capone beat most of the charges for crimes he'd committed, too?
Did he spend $100 million?
It is interesting to read your account of how much the president elect has in common with AL Capone.

Trump would have been convicted of even more had the Democrats avoided some of the scandal. The people decided in the election whether Trump was really guilty of all of those charges or whether the government was weaponized against him. In defiance of the major media/establishment the people have voted and the results are in.

 

[ozso]

Trump would have been convicted of even more had the Democrats avoided some of the scandal. The people decided in the election whether Trump was really guilty of all of those charges or whether the government was weaponized against him. In defiance of the major media/establishment the people have voted and the results are in.

I can hardly wait for the senate and house investigations into all of it.

 

[Fantine]

Trump would have been convicted of even more had the Democrats avoided some of the scandal. The people decided in the election whether Trump was really guilty of all of those charges or whether the government was weaponized against him. In defiance of the major media/establishment the people have voted and the results are in.

I just figured out the way Trump supporters seem to think.
When he tells the truth: I will end the ACA. I will put people in "camps." I will fire federal employees and replace them with loyalists: they think he's lying.
When he lies: No one in history has ever been more persecuted by a weaponized government: they think he's telling the truth.
If they flipped an internal switch they'd know the truth...but it's too late.

 

[ozso]

I just figured out the way Trump supporters seem to think.
When he tells the truth: I will end the ACA. I will put people in "camps." I will fire federal employees and replace them with loyalists: they think he's lying.

Really it's that they know democrat politicians and media opponents are lying to the public, by taking his words out of context, which is very easy to verify.

When he lies: No one in history has ever been more persecuted by a weaponized government: they think he's telling the truth.
If they flipped an internal switch they'd know the truth...but it's too late.

It's a matter of them having come to the same conclusion on their own. It started with the Steele Dosser and Mueller investigation fiasco, and has continued in the same vein since then. This is all stuff they've all seen and heard unfold with their own eyes and ears.

 

[Valletta]

I just figured out the way Trump supporters seem to think.
When he tells the truth: I will end the ACA. I will put people in "camps." I will fire federal employees and replace them with loyalists: they think he's lying.
When he lies: No one in history has ever been more persecuted by a weaponized government: they think he's telling the truth.
If they flipped an internal switch they'd know the truth...but it's too late.

"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold." Barack Obama June 6, 2009

Look, MAGAs are not Democrats, remember the Democrats put American citizens of Japanese descent in internment camps during World War II. They also took their homes and much of their belongings. And those were citizens! The Democrats have created a mess, there are terrorists and cartel members and prison gang members and mentally unstable illegals. They have to be held some place before transported, so of course Trump is not going to rule out temporary camps to deal with the enormous numbers.

Mara-a-lago was raided, they pawed through Melania's personal items, Baron's as well. Eric Trump alone has received HUNDREDS of subpoenas.
They have gone after Ivanka's business. Attorney client privilege was thrown out the window, the government demanded Trumps attorneys reveal his personal communications. Lawyers who represented Trump were persecuted. Trump's social media accounts were shut down. And the law was twisted Soviet-style to convict hims of anything--making a mockery of U.S. law.

Realize the Democrats outnumbered Republicans, spent more than twice as much money, and yet enough Democrats realized the truth and voted for Trump to give him a landslide victory.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

“Matt is a deeply gifted and tenacious attorney, trained at the William & Mary College of Law, who has distinguished himself in Congress through his focus on achieving desperately needed reform at the Department of Justice. Few issues in America are more important than ending the partisan Weaponization of our Justice System,” Trump said of Gaetz in the statement.

GOP shocked as Rep. Matt Gaetz, who faced sex-trafficking probe, gets attorney general nod from Trump

President-elect selected Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) to serve as his Attorney General Wednesday in a surprising pick.

nypost.com

I would have chosen Mark Levin first, but Matt is a fighter who won't back down.

Great! The more controversial appointments the better! Our Constitution is finally going to really be tested! The much coveted " agreement " will have to withstand an administration going rogue for the first time. All power will be in one man's hands soon enough.
But do not fear! :The Kingdom of God is not of this world ". Let it unfold, it is our Father's will for the sake of the remnant who will endure through it. This too will fall.
Blessings

 

[Fantine]

"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold." Barack Obama June 6, 2009

Look, MAGAs are not Democrats, remember the Democrats put American citizens of Japanese descent in internment camps during World War II. They also took their homes and much of their belongings. And those were citizens! The Democrats have created a mess, there are terrorists and cartel members and prison gang members and mentally unstable illegals. They have to be held some place before transported, so of course Trump is not going to rule out temporary camps to deal with the enormous numbers.

Mara-a-lago was raided, they pawed through Melania's personal items, Baron's as well. Eric Trump alone has received HUNDREDS of subpoenas.
They have gone after Ivanka's business. Attorney client privilege was thrown out the window, the government demanded Trumps attorneys reveal his personal communications. Lawyers who represented Trump were persecuted. Trump's social media accounts were shut down. And the law was twisted Soviet-style to convict hims of anything--making a mockery of U.S. law.

Realize the Democrats outnumbered Republicans, spent more than twice as much money, and yet enough Democrats realized the truth and voted for Trump to give him a landslide victory.

You forgot one word--cause. When there is more than abundant evidence that all those crimes were committed, the evidence is submitted to judges who issue subpoenas. To grand juries who issue indictments. And to those who don't have $100 million to buy their way out of jams, juries issue convictions.
The victory was not a landslide...maybe a mudslide, a destructive event it will take at least two years to get out of.

 

[Fantine]

Great! The more controversial appointments the better! Our Constitution is finally going to really be tested! The much coveted " agreement " will have to withstand an administration going rogue for the first time. All power will be in one man's hands soon enough.
But do not fear! :The Kingdom of God is not of this world ". Let it unfold, it is our Father's will for the sake of the remnant who will endure through it. This too will fall.
Blessings

I love you, but your speech reminds me of 19th century spirituals. "All my trials Lord soon be over." "Swing low sweet chariot."
The kingdom of heaven should begin here. Religion should not be the opiate of the masses. (Pause to find psalm)

 

[Fantine]

Great! The more controversial appointments the better! Our Constitution is finally going to really be tested! The much coveted " agreement " will have to withstand an administration going rogue for the first time. All power will be in one man's hands soon enough.
But do not fear! :The Kingdom of God is not of this world ". Let it unfold, it is our Father's will for the sake of the remnant who will endure through it. This too will fall.
Blessings

Psalm 15 They who do justice will live in the presence of God.
Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for justice, for they shall be satisfied.
We are called to bring God's kingdom to earth, as much as is possible.
November 5 was a leap in the wrong direction.

 

[Fantine]

Trump would have been convicted of even more had the Democrats avoided some of the scandal. The people decided in the election whether Trump was really guilty of all of those charges or whether the government was weaponized against him. In defiance of the major media/establishment the people have voted and the results are in.

Hogwash. Brainwash. The wealthiest techie in the world spent a fortune and who knows what kind of subliminal brainwashing techniques he might have put to use?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

We are called to bring God's kingdom to earth, as much as is possible.

How does your statement come into agreement with Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

"‘My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom,’ Jesus replied. ‘If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world".

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I think the notion of Gaetz getting past the senate confirmation is still a bit premature (unless he can mend fences with some of the establishment GOP he annoyed with his little stunt to oust McCarthy)

However, it should be noted that Gaetz is a bit of an enigma when it comes to the initiatives he gets behind.

He actually does have some positions that resonate well with the left-leaning populists, too, and has had some "surprise votes" on key issues where he's either sided with the democrats (or even held positions to the left of a lot of them)


-He previously supported legislative measures to break up Silicon Valley monopolies
-Supported regulating the online data broker industry
-He wouldn't accept corporate campaign money (only 1 of 61 members of the house, and the only house republican, to sign that pledge)
-Banning non-compete employment contracts
-Cutting certain arms supplies to Saudi Arabia
-Legalizing marijuana
-Supported AOC's initiative to end congressional stock trading

And in an interview with the WSJ, he once made the statement:
As the Republican Party becomes more working class, we need to be less captive to the neo libertarian view that everything big business does to people is OK, That means, the party can’t be harlots for big business and be the voice of the working class at the same time.

If he, in the capacity of AG, kept his job filtered through the lenses above... He could potentially end up doing some things that democrats find agreeable (even if they aren't crazy about his loyalty to Trump on some of the other issues)

 

[Hazelelponi]

I disagree with Trump's choice of Gaetz for Attorney General. If I were advising President Trump, I would have very strongly encouraged him to select one of the state AGs from a strong, conservative state such as Texas, Florida, Missouri, etc.

I worry in general about taking anyone out of the house or Senate for appointments. We need them all ..

But you're thoughts on taking a good AG from a red state is a good idea.

I don't mind the Gaetz appointment, outside of taking him out of Congress. What are we getting in his place? I don't like that much... But Gaetz as AG in general isn't a bad thing...

I haven't noticed anything sketchy about him, I think the ethics investigation was just lawfare because he made enemies wasn't it? He's served 5 terms hasn't he?

 

[essentialsaltes]

People had to decide whether Trump deserved to be convicted of 32 felonies

12 jurors had that job already.

 

[durangodawood]

I worry in general about taking anyone out of the house or Senate for appointments. We need them all......

There probably a provision in FL where the governor appoints a replacement for Gaetz. So The R number advantage in the house wont change. I dont know this for a fact tho.

 

[essentialsaltes]

There probably a provision in FL where the governor appoints a replacement for Gaetz. So The R number advantage in the house wont change. I dont know this for a fact tho.

Something like that appears to be the case.

I believe Speaker Johnson was thanking Gaetz for resigning so early in the process to make sure that could happen before the new Congress is seated.

Nobody else is being so generous, but nobody else was facing the public release of a report about their ethics problems involving "sexual misconduct with a minor and illicit drug use" this week.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

There probably a provision in FL where the governor appoints a replacement for Gaetz. So The R number advantage in the house wont change. I dont know this for a fact tho.

I could be mistaken, but I believe that process only exists for the senate and not the house.

But in any case, that's a pretty safely red district Gaetz was in, it's been 2:1 GOP since 2000, so they GOP isn't in any danger of losing it to the blue team.

 

[durangodawood]

.....Nobody else is being so generous, but nobody else was facing the public release of a report about their ethics problems involving "sexual misconduct with a minor and illicit drug use" this week.

Hmm...... suspeeecious.