Malachi the Prophet

[keras]

isn't that what it just said? That it's not allowed?

I used the Bible given time periods of the Patriarchs and the Kings of Judah, to compile that timeline Simple additions, up to the known date of the Babylonian conquest of Judah.
Not allowed? Or just not suited to your fanciful beliefs.

I certainly know that. But it's not the way you present yourself.

I am maybe a little forceful in my presentations of the Prophetic Word. Wasn't the ancient prophets that way too? I am a messenger and I tell it how it is - and will soon be.
My aim and object is to shake up peoples complacent and unworried attitude to what must happen at the end of this Christian age. That I get abuse and ostracized, for doing that, is not my concern. They have been warned; Ezekiel 3:16-21 applies.

A 'vision' whose original interpretation of the end-times-tables and speculation on dates is about to prove false.

This is actually quite upsetting. You simply do not know what the future will be.
It shows your intransigence and your misplaced confidence in mans theology and in the errors, speculations and plain guesswork of todays eschatology.

Where do we go from here?

OK Brother in Christ.
For me, I will continue to post what the Prophets have so graphically informed us about Gods plans for our future.
You can carry on denying it all, but I pray that you will have an epiphany and see the truths, before the Lord takes action and you won't know which way to turn, Luke 21:25-26

 

[eclipsenow]

This is actually quite upsetting. You simply do not know what the future will be.
It shows your intransigence and your misplaced confidence in mans theology and in the errors, speculations and plain guesswork of todays eschatology.

OK Brother in Christ.
For me, I will continue to post what the Prophets have so graphically informed us about Gods plans for our future.
You can carry on denying it all, but I pray that you will have an epiphany and see the truths, before the Lord takes action and you won't know which way to turn, Luke 21:25-26

Again with the superior attitude...​

I had hoped you would de-escalate the spiritually superior bible-bashing attacks against my character after I just quoted the forum rules. I mean - it's getting boring. You put on your spiritually superior OT prophet mantle - I play the larakin Aussie - it's just a bit trite and superficial don't you think? Falling into our old roles like needles on an old record album? Oh well - if you won't drop it - why would I?

Apparently because I disagree with your theology I am demonstrating "intransigence" and "misplaced confidence in mans theology" and "plain guesswork of todays eschatology." Nice. That oughta de-escalate this conversation we've been having for 5 years or so.

But let's look at the 'logic' here. Are you claiming you are more than a man? Are you not developing your own theological position - stating scripture the way you see it? Come on. Be honest. Just saying "I'm just saying what the bible clearly says..." is ignoring that you have your own presuppositions etc.

What makes your uneducated opinion so much more valid than those who have studied all the apocalyptic symbolic writing of 200 BC to 200 AD? In other words, if I just followed you - what makes you the right voice out of tens of thousands of 'voices' and opinions on all this end-times stuff online - and why wouldn't I go with someone who actually had studied the ancient Hebrew and Greek and culture and language symbolism used in other apocalyptic writing of the time? Give me one good reason.

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Again with the CME...​

So Australia's going to be nuked by a CME?

Cool!

When?

Have you really truly wooly got it right this time?

What makes this 'new and improved super-timetable' righter-er than the last time you were 'perfectly confident'?

“I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel..."
Stated in August 2021 about the AOD being in January 2026. Must have felt like a long way aways then hey Keras? Felt safe predicting this stuff way back in 2021 hey? (Nudge nudge wink wink.)
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

Will it kill everyone - as in Nicholas Cage's "The Knowing?"​

Or should I take my family into a deep bunker - as in Greenland?​

Mind you - the BIBLE says there's NO PHYSICAL escape from the coming fire.​

Because there's no bunker that can save anyone from this. Even the kings and generals in Revelation 6 who saw the face of the Lord asked the mountains to fall on them to hide them from him! But that just doesn't work. Judgement day is going to be complete and usher in eternity.

This isn't a reset - as in the days of Noah. The days of Noah is about how surprising this will be - not the scope.

This is a replacement! A total renovation! A new heavens and new earth - and anyone that rips that bit off the end here is guilty of getting their scissors and cutting out chunks of the the bible to fit what they want.

It's Judgement Day - the return of the Lord - and the New Heavens and New Earth all rolled into one!


2 PETER 3
”Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. 8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. 11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.”

Anyone who completely downgrades and downplays this passage into a mere celestial event really needs to go back to basics and learn how to read the bible.

 

[keras]

What makes your uneducated opinion so much more valid than those who have studied all the apocalyptic symbolic writing of 200 BC to 200 AD? In other words, if I just followed you - what makes you the right voice out of tens of thousands of 'voices' and opinions on all this end-times stuff online - and why wouldn't I go with someone who actually had studied the ancient Hebrew and Greek and culture and language symbolism used in other apocalyptic writing of the time? Give me one good reason.

Somebody surely will know the truth of Gods plans. Or will God just say: Ha ha, you poor fools, you didn't know I was going to do that; despite My telling you, in great detail.

Jesus gave you the reason why you should not trust the wise and learned people. Matthew 11:25
Youi seem to be incapable of understanding even that truth, also supported by several scriptures.

So Australia's going to be nuked by a CME?
Cool!
When?

The whole world will be affected, Zephaniah 3:8, Luke 21:35
This is the Day that no one know when. But it surely looks very close now.

Mind you - the BIBLE says there's NO PHYSICAL escape from the coming fire.

Because there's no bunker that can save anyone from this. Even the kings and generals in Revelation 6 who saw the face of the Lord asked the mountains to fall on them to hide them from him! But that just doesn't work. Judgement day is going to be complete and usher in eternity.

You exhibit a chronic lack of Bible knowledge, Or you are just egging me along?

Most people will survive this Day of disaster. The Messianic Jews, by hiding in underground bunkers, Isaiah 29:1-4 and we Christians by heeding the warning and taking shelter, Isaiah 26:20-21.
But our best course of action, will be to Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be saved. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, Romans 19:13

Anyone who completely downgrades and downplays this passage into a mere celestial event really needs to go back to basics and learn how to read the bible.

You have the effrontery to say I have bad exegesis!
You downgrade verses 7- 10 to one Kaboom event.

2 Peter 3:1-13, is a narrative starting with the situation in the present day, then the Lords Day of wrath, then Peter refers to the old earth passing away, as per Revelation 20:11. A thousand years later, as Rev 20 undeniably says.

The mention of the Lord coming as a thief, only applies to the Day of vengeance and wrath, the next Prophesied event to happen, proved by how Jesus stopped His quote of Isaiah 61:1-2a, before and a day of the Lords vengeance.
Jesus does not Return in vengeance and wrath. 1 Thess 4:16

 

[eclipsenow]

I said give me one good reason for why I should trust you rather than the tens of thousands of other silly futurist timetable guessing games. Your answer was to attack me for not believing 'that truth, also supported by several scriptures.' But you see your own eisegesis proves you are NOT quoting scripture with any accuracy or discernment.
You regularly undermine the OT prophet's own statements about their own intentions - and the intentions and concerns of the broader OT like Deuteronomy!

"But it surely looks very close now."
Oh - let me guess - you're "perfectly confident" now? How reassuring!

Egging you on about Rev 6? Not at all! John repeatedly looks at the end of the world, Judgement Day, the Return of the Lord - the Last Day - whatever you want to call it! Repeatedly! From a variety of different themes! The Professors of OT have compelled me to see it. It's just there. John's sequences of various curses cover the history between Jesus Resurrection and his Return - this R&R period we live in now, from a variety of different themes. It's the same "Millennium" (bajillion years) spelled out from the perspective of natural disasters, curses, tyrants, appeals to wealth, etc. But the world ends at the end of each sequence - and then John repeats history from yet another perspective.

It's a sermon on suffering from different angles - not your precious sequential timetable.
If you ever read the rest of the apocalyptic works of the time you might understand basic parallelisms. But I guess when you're ignorant of the entire thing - you get a certain kind of confidence in your own work. It has a special name -that kind of confidence.

We even get to see Judgement Day a few times across Rev 19 and 20.

I'm convinced! I've studied the evidence. It's in books you will never dare read by people who have a clue!

Parallelism. It's a thing. Check it out.

It's not my fault you've made this ridiculous separation of 'fire' from the Return of the Lord and split the last day up like swiss cheese, and so cannot even read 2 Peter 3 correctly.

It's not my fault you pretentiously associated the 'correctness' of your position with your vision - like you were some modern day Joseph Smith!

It's not my fault your original timetable collapsed under the irrepressible weight of years passing and there being no visible sign of the temple in Jerusalem by Jan 2026!

So Keras - how long does it take to build a temple? Or wait - this is the miracle temple that flies down from heaven? If God's going to go that far - why not just end it all and have Judgement Day and the Return of the Lord all in one go as he said in the clearer parts of the bible? (And even Revelation for those who actually understand parallelism and how to read the thing!)

 

[keras]

John repeatedly looks at the end of the world, Judgement Day, the Return of the Lord - the Last Day - whatever you want to call it! Repeatedly! From a variety of different themes! The Professors of OT have compelled me to see it. It's just there. John's sequences of various curses cover the history between Jesus Resurrection and his Return - this R&R period we live in now, from a variety of different themes. It's the same "Millennium" (bajillion years) spelled out from the perspective of natural disasters, curses, tyrants, appeals to wealth, etc. But the world ends at the end of each sequence - and then John repeats history from yet another perspective.

What a weird and wacky view of the world now and the end times!
Tell me: Does Professor A agree with everything Professor B says? Is there any really sure interpretation of all the Prophesied end time events?
Or is it just speculation and sheer guesswork? As what you say here, surely looks to me.

Have you ever asked a Professor, or anyone who teaches on Bible Prophecy, their thoughts on Matthew 11:25-26?

why not just end it all and have Judgement Day and the Return of the Lord all in one go as he said in the clearer parts of the bible?

Because that is not what He has said will happen.
You exhibit a sad lack of understanding of what this whole exercise of the physical universe and of mankind, is all about.
What is Gods Purpose? Is it just like a lab rat experiment? And when God tires of it, just biff the lot into the incinerator!
Here is my article on that subject: [please do not make me apply Matthew 7:6 to you]
Part one:-
Long ago, God, who has existed forever, formed the angelic beings, in order to serve Him in the Heavenly realms. There are a great number of angels and they have varying degrees of powers. The most powerful of these is Lucifer. [the light bearer]

It was a sad day for God when Lucifer began to aspire to take over God’s kingship. Lucifer said; “I will be like the Most High.” Isaiah 14:12-14. Then he convinced a third of the other angels to go with him in rebellion against God.
God had a dilemma. He couldn’t simply wipe out those beings that He had created, because as a perfect and righteous God, to arbitrarily destroy them would not prove His just sentence against them.

What was required were witnesses – intelligent, unbiased and independent jurors to sit at this trial of Lucifer and his followers, so that the defendants could not say to God- you are unjust. Job 34:10-12

So God thought about that universe that He had created in another dimension and tidied up a suitable planet in it. He prepared a beautiful garden, and then formed a man and a woman in His likeness. They were given free will over their actions.

God may have been quite happy had Adam and Eve continued in obedience to Him. However, I guess God knew that they wouldn’t and sin came into this world, which does give humans the choice between good and evil.
And so, the first civilization gradually fell into worse and worse sin, until God wiped them out with a great flood, saving only one family.

Once again, the population increased and God decided that one righteous man would father a nation that would become “a light to all nations” in order to show the world His ways and be a people who would become His jurors and His friends. Isaiah 43:10-11

God showed His love for these people by rescuing them from bondage in Egypt, giving them His laws and settling them into the Promised Land. According to His plan, they divided into two Kingdoms - the House of Judah and the House of Israel. 1 Kings 12:24

Sadly, even these peoples backslid into apostasy and idolatry. So, ‘God flung them out of His presence.’ Jeremiah 23:39 They went into exile among the nations of the world. The House of Judah remains a visible entity, but the House of Israel is lost to our knowledge – only to be identified when all twelve tribes are gathered into the Land.
Into Judah, God sent His Son, Jesus, to clearly tell all who would listen how to live righteously in God’s sight. In order to atone for men’s sins, there has to be a sacrifice.
Jesus made that sacrifice for all those who accept Him as saviour, by His death on the Cross. He also demonstrated God’s power over death and Lucifer by rising to life again.

Now, nearly two thousand years later, most of Judah still refuse to recognise the Messiah, but Righteous Christian Israelites – those who love God and follow in His ways – await their redemption. Soon the Promised Land will be cleared of all wicked peoples, Jeremiah 12:14, Zephaniah 1:14-18, and His Christian peoples will gather there; with great joy and gladness. Isaiah 35:1-10.; Romans 9:24-26

 

[eclipsenow]

What a weird and wacky view of the world now and the end times!

Says the guy who inserts thousands of years into Matt 24 & 25 and 2 Peter and 1 Thess and 2 Thess - you know - whenever you need to to maintain the Sci-Fi story you're writing!

[please do not make me apply Matthew 7:6 to you]

No Keras - don't do it!
Pleaaaaase don't Matthew 7:6 me!
PLLEAAAASE! I'll be good!
I PROMISE I WON'T DO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!

Ok - can we dispense with the melodrama and superior mountain guru routine?
Who are you to Matthew 7:6 anyone?
Seriously - 12 months Keras - tik tok!

Thanks for contributing your junior high creative writing essay - but it's not really the topic.

1. Have you double-checked the tone of your writing - it's 'voice'? It sounds like it should start with "Once upon a time."

2. Then there's the insulting implication that God created the human race solely to watch him judge angels one day - and not because he wanted to create us out of his overflowing love and generosity to new creatures.

3. Your argument that Israel must be re-gathered today is unjustifiable from your verses selected through eisegesis. Remember - ancient Israel and Judah were spread out to the nations under Assyria and Babylon. But then anyone remotely identifying with Israel and Judah could have returned under the Persians thousands of years ago!

4. Then Jesus arrives and the gospel totally transforms the very idea of who God's people are. By the time the Romans crush Jerusalem and destroy the temple in AD 70 - ideas of 'national Israel' are so over-abundantly fulfilled - with the gospel shooting out into all the world as we see in Acts - that we can finally see how Abraham's descendant would bless all the nations. Jesus said "my kingdom is not of this world" and he meant it. The saving Christian message has transformed and continues to transform the world.

But now - back to eschatology.

There are serious questions you have failed to address:-

It's not my fault you've made this ridiculous separation of 'fire' from the Return of the Lord and split the last day up like swiss cheese, and so cannot even read 2 Peter 3 correctly.

It's not my fault you pretentiously associated the 'correctness' of your position with your vision - like you were some modern day Joseph Smith!

It's not my fault your original timetable collapsed under the irrepressible weight of years passing and there being no visible sign of the temple in Jerusalem by Jan 2026!

So Keras - how long does it take to build a temple? Or wait - this is the miracle temple that flies down from heaven? If God's going to go that far - why not just end it all and have Judgement Day and the Return of the Lord all in one go as he said in the clearer parts of the bible?