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Lilith the first woman in the Bible?

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They are very different as it can be seen from Noah's flood account that God intends to remove the creation from the earth and preserve those after his kind. Read it through and keep in mind one creation is of his kind and the other is of the dust and has the breath of life in them. They are very different.

Below are a few classic differences.

GENESIS 1:2 - GENESIS 2:3 CREATION ORDER

1) Heavens and earth created.
2) Light shines on earth.
3) Light divided from darkness.
4) Firmament divided.
5) Land separated from water.
6) Plant life appears.
7) Sun, moon, and stars appear.
8) Animal life created.
9) Both male and female created.

GENESIS 2:4 - GENESIS 4:26 CREATION ORDER
1) Heavens and earth created.
2) Plant life appears.
3) Man created.
4) The Garden was made after man was made.
4) Animal life created after man.
5) Woman made from man’s rib.

NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCES IN THE ACCOUNTS

1) God commands the creation into existence in the first account, in the second account God is described as a creator, forming man, animals, and trees from the dust.
2) Creation takes place in stages accounted in days during the first account. In the second account no stages are recorded.
3) In the first account human beings are created to procreate but in the second one, they are created to live together in marriage.
4) There is no mention of Eden in the first account only the second.
5) In the first account, there are no limitation on what plants and trees are edible. The second has the restriction not to eat of the tree of life.

I am well aware that often we find further detail later in scripture. If we take a look just a few chapters over we see the content from Genesis 11: (1-9) contains detail Genesis 10:10. Likewise we see that the content Genesis 2:4 is clearly stated to occur in Genesis 1:1. Rather than placing it where most people place it, the above list of contradictions are left to be explained away.

There are no contradiction unless scripture is incorrectly interpreted and by placing it in its stated location (Genesis 2:4) of (Genesis 1:1), the contradictions vanish.

Would you place the content of Genesis 11: (1-9) starting at Genesis 10:21? No because it doesn't fit and you have a large collection of contradictions to deal with.

Think about John 1 and Ephesians 3:9. Realizing the all things are created through Jesus Christ from the very beginning. Look at the creator in Genesis 2:4 through Genesis 4:26. Notice that he is called Lord God. This is Christ Lord. This happened first. Notice in Genesis 1:2 through Genesis 2:3 is not addressed as Lord God.

Notice Job 38:26 and Genesis 2:5. The creation narrative in Job 38 is talking about the creation in Genesis 2:4. This is the first creation.

The list goes on and on. It is the truth.
There was only one creation.
In the Genesis 2 version actual details are given of how God did things.
Also in the Gen.2 version when God forms the animals it was for the purpose of Adam naming them..
2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

In the Gen. 1 account God makes it a point to say that man was the very last thing He made as He couldn't have said this if He hadn't already created these things.
1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Also, no matter how you translate Isaiah 34:14, nothing puts her before Eve.
Also Adam calls her "Eve" because she is the mother of all living.
 
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WAs she really the first woman that was created with Adam then came Eve? The Canaanite myths have her a moon goddess or monster that drank human blood?

For God's sake Frasier....

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Lilith comes from the Babylonian Talmud. There is nothing in the bible about such a person and I consider her to be a complete fabrication.
Agreed.

She was used by generations of Jewish parents to scare their kids into obedience.
 
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There is mention of Lilith in the Bible; Isaiah 34:14. But it gives us no information about her.
That would be a bad transliteration** of the Hebrew, and that verse is the ONLY place that words appears. However it is closely related to la-yeel לַיִל (H3915)
which just means night, darkness or gloom.


**Hebrew has no th sound
 
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The context is just talking about different kinds of animals so I don't believe an evil spirit is being mentioned in the middle among animals. People were always afraid of the dark and the animals that made scary sounds and they invented things but back to the OP, "Lilith the first woman in the Bible?"

My answer remains no and no one has presented any evidence to support there was a human woman named Lilith especially the first woman :)
From what I can tell, it seems likely there were competing world views within religion back then. Civilization didn't have Christianity, Islam and Judaism as major players. Back then the nations had their own views on history and how their gods behaved. Lilith just may be their name for Eve and how they viewed her theologically. Judaism's mention of Lilith can just be a reaction to her, just as much as we find responses between the major religious towards each other today.
 
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There was only one creation.
In the Genesis 2 version actual details are given of how God did things.
Also in the Gen.2 version when God forms the animals it was for the purpose of Adam naming them..
2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

In the Gen. 1 account God makes it a point to say that man was the very last thing He made as He couldn't have said this if He hadn't already created these things.
1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Also, no matter how you translate Isaiah 34:14, nothing puts her before Eve.
Also Adam calls her "Eve" because she is the mother of all living.

There was only one creation. No – Look at the list of the lineages in Genesis 4 and 5. They are different. Genesis 4 corresponds to the sons of men, Genesis 5 the sons of God (See the last verse of Luke 3)

In the Genesis 2 version actual details are given of how God did things. (No. How did you conclude this? Can you give me a direct quote that shows that this must be true. Can you draw me this conclusion through connecting other scriptures? I can show how this isn't case through many scriptures. See post #6 for a list of contradictions demonstrating why this isn't true. Also a collection of scripture is given with a logic showing it is not a recap of Genesis 1.)

Also in the Gen.2 version when God forms the animals it was for the purpose of Adam naming them..(This is an assumption on your part. How did you conclude this?)

2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

In the Gen. 1 account God makes it a point to say that man was the very last thing He made as He couldn't have said this if He hadn't already created these things.

1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. (Yes but Genesis 2:4 through 4:26 precludes this and so it doesn't really matter. Also consider 1:28, This creation is told to replenish the earth(the same thing Noah was told to do after the flood.) as the previous creation (Genesis 2:4 - Genesis 4:26) was covered by the deep Genesis 1:2. )

Also, no matter how you translate Isaiah 34:14, nothing puts her before Eve. (No. I am assuming you are talking about the Genesis 2 Eve. Again, her time was before what transpired in Genesis 1:2 – Genesis 2:3. There was many things going on in Eden during the age of the sons of men. Christ himself was there. )

Ephesians 3: (4-5) 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

Proverbs 8: (22-31) 22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

Nations of people (Ezekiel 31:6) are in Eden, Giants were there too.

Genesis 6: (2- 4) 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Ezekiel 31:8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chesnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty.

Amos 2:9 Yet destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit from above, and his roots from beneath.

These mighty men, the “children of men”. We see them later in (Genesis 11:5) can be traced back to Eden (Ezekiel 31:14 ), being in the nether parts of the earth as the people of earth (Ezekiel 31:12) are above them.

However, it is curious that Cain being banished from the “face of the earth” to “in the earth” (Genesis 4:14). No doubt these "children of men" in the nether parts of the earth was who he was afraid of.


Read Genesis 1:2 – 2:3. Notice the creation told to replenish the earth and have dominion only “upon the earth”. They had no business in the nether parts of the earth.

The flood was to clean the earth of the 1st creation made from the dust.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 6:7 7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Genesis 7:17 17And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

The 2nd creation (Genesis 1:2 - Genesis 2:3) "after his kind" is the one to be kept preserved and exits the ark. These are the sons of God. See Genesis 5, Luke 3, and I Chronicles 1. The creation that is the record (Exodus 20:11) and occurred 6 to 10 thousand years ago.

Genesis 8:19 19 Every beast, every creeping thing, and every fowl, and whatsoever creepeth upon the earth, after their kinds, went forth out of the ark.

Also Adam calls her "Eve" because she is the mother of all living (At that time. Also, this is not implying all things. For example, cats and dogs.).

Oh well, the list goes on and on. I’ll hush. Not everything is meant to be know about this age and it is not intended for everybody to know.

Mathew 13:35 35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

The problem is that people view the first chapters of the book Genesis as collection of different stories. It is not, it is one story describing many things. For example, people like to separate the creation narratives, the story about Cain and Able, Noah's flood, the tower of Babel. It is not many stories that are to be viewed separately but one describing how the seed that would bring Christ was protected from very bad things that happened Early in Eden. This is why he had to be brought by a virgin.

As far as Lilith, If you look at the lore associated with her, she was made from the dust of the earth and her origin is shown in two Eden accunts in scriture (Genesis 2:14 and Ezekiel 31:3).
 
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Lilith’s origins lie in Babylonian demonology, where amulets and incantations were used to counter the sinister powers of this winged spirit who preyed on pregnant women and infants. Lilith next migrated to the world of the ancient Hittites, Egyptians, Israelites and Greeks. She makes a solitary appearance in the Bible, as a wilderness demon shunned by the prophet Isaiah. In the Middle Ages she reappears in Jewish sources as the dreadful first wife of Adam.
While Lilith is not mentioned again in the Bible, she does resurface in the Dead Sea Scrolls, The Qumran sect was engrossed with demonology, and Lilith appears in the Song for a Sage, a hymn possibly used in exorcisms: “And I, the Sage, sound the majesty of His beauty to terrify and confound all the spirits of destroying angels and the bastard spirits, the demons, Lilith. . ., and those that strike suddenly, to lead astray the spirit of understanding, and to make desolate their heart.”7 The Qumran community was surely familiar with the Isaiah passage, and the Bible’s sketchy characterization of Lilith is echoed by this liturgical Dead Sea Scroll. (Lilith may also appear in a second Dead Sea Scroll.)
Centuries after the Dead Sea Scrolls were written, learned rabbis completed the Babylonian Talmud (final editing circa 500 to 600 C.E.), and female demons journeyed into scholarly Jewish inquiries. The Talmud (the name comes from a Hebrew word meaning “study”) is a compendium of legal discussions, tales of great rabbis and meditations on Bible passages. Talmudic references to Lilith are few, but they provide a glimpse of what intellectuals thought about her. The Talmud’s Lilith recalls older Babylonian images, for she has “long hair” (Erubin 100b) and wings (Niddah 24b).8 The Talmud’s image of Lilith also reinforces older impressions of her as a succubus, a demon in female form who had sex with men while the men were sleeping. Unwholesome sexual practices are linked to Lilith as she powerfully embodies the demon-lover myth.
source Lilith - Biblical Archaeology Society

I’ve heard it said that eastern housebuilding always included an amulet built under a cornerstone to fight Lilith’s influence on the household. I think that may be? still in practice ?
For us the cornerstone should be Christ, but those who’s minds flow in that wrong direction may feel they still need protection from myths.
 
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WAs she really the first woman that was created with Adam then came Eve? The Canaanite myths have her a moon goddess or monster that drank human blood?

Short answer? No.

Long answer? No. In antiquity and the middle ages Jewish sages tried to reconcile the two creation accounts in Genesis, the first in Genesis 1 which has man and women created simultaneously and the second in Genesis 2 with Eve created from Adam's rib by postulating that perhaps that Adam had a wife before Eve. This isn't a major rabbinical teaching, it was more just playing with ideas on how to reconcile the texts. However a fairly elaborate mythology came to surround the figure of Adam's supposed first wife, she was identified as Lilith, based on an ancient near eastern mythological demons or succubi, known collectively as lilitu; the connection was made that Lilith thought herself Adam's equal and that was her downfall, she was cast out of Paradise and became a demon, then God created a new woman from Adam's rib to be his helpmate and companion--Eve.

Lilith isn't actually a figure believed by most Jews. The concept is born out of an attempt by Jewish sages to reconcile the disparities between the two creation stories in Genesis, with an elaborate narrative to expand upon it. There are plenty of other ways to address the disparity between the Creation stories, for example some simply deny any disparity at all.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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WAs she really the first woman that was created with Adam then came Eve? The Canaanite myths have her a moon goddess or monster that drank human blood?
I would believe the Bible's account, which makes no mention of any woman preceding Eve.
 
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