Kim Clement

[tammym1972]

Is anybody here familiar with Kim Clement? What do you think of him? Has any of his prophecies come true?

 

[Elijah2]

Is anybody here familiar with Kim Clement? What do you think of him? Has any of his prophecies come true?

As far as I know from resources that he is a false teacher, preacher, prophet and a new age prophet.

The best way to find out any information, is to punch it in GOOGLE, such as Kim Clement False or Deception or whatever negative you can think and you will probably get enought information for you to discern.

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

 

[pdudgeon]

he used to be a good prophet. but shortly after the first swearing in of President George W. Bush, he went to the White House to deliver a written prophesy to the president concerning Bush's tenure in office. the problem was not the prophesy but that he spoke about it with pride.

from that time onward his track record on fulfilled prophesy changed.

 

[Alpine]

He never did say what was in that message.

Also, elijah2, I could probably put anyone's name in google+false teacher and come up with all kinds of results.

John Macarthur
KJV bible
Baptists
Jesus

 

[MrSnow]

Well, whether he's a true or false prophet/teacher, if you ever hear him singing, there's about a 99% chance that it's the "Yeshua" song ('Yeshua' being almost the only word in the song, and he LOVES to sing that song).

 

[MinJeremiah]

He never did say what was in that message.

Also, elijah2, I could probably put anyone's name in google+false teacher and come up with all kinds of results.

John Macarthur
KJV bible
Baptists
Jesus

Thank you Alpine. You can do that with every minister. Kim is a great man of God. Has every prophecy he ever gave came to pass? Probably not. Everyone can sometimes miss it in the gifts of the Spirit. God is working with imperfect vessels.

 

[JimB]

How do you know "Kim is a great man of God"? Judge not, M. You are judging as true which may not be. My guess is you do not know KC. He may be a man of God, then he may not be. Probably no one in this forum knows for sure.

Weren’t some posters scolded a couple of months ago for daring to believe anything other than that Todd Bentley was a real man of God ... until we learned the facts, then all of his supporters who were scolding the more discerning suddenly had nothing to say?

All I know about KC is that he has made some outlandish documented predictions (aka, "prophecies") that have not come to pass. Had it been Elijah or Isaiah, they would have been summarily stoned. Why KC is excused for error and misleading God’s people, I do not know?

~Jim.

God brings us into deep waters not to drown us, but to cleanse us.​

 

[pinetree]

He never did say what was in that message.

Also, elijah2, I could probably put anyone's name in google+false teacher and come up with all kinds of results.

John Macarthur
KJV bible
Baptists
Jesus

Good point.

You can google toothpaste,and hear goofy things too.

 

[BillynJennifer]

With Clement, I've noticed that when he is "leading" worship, there is a genuine corporate desire to be close to God. This isn't really anything that is credited to him personally as much as it is a credit to God for using the opportunity to spend some quality time with those that are there.

Then on the other hand, when he starts to "prophecy", he tries to drum up a desire for the people to want more of him and more of his talents. It's sort of a two-edged sword. He has learned to monopolize on the emotions that the people feel during worship.

 

[Faulty]

I don't trust the man. He's been proven false on several occasions and now I don't even waste any of my time or effort on him (other than to write this post).

 

[nephilimiyr]

Is anybody here familiar with Kim Clement? What do you think of him? Has any of his prophecies come true?

When it comes to what I think about him being a true prophet, the jury is still out, I simply don't know. I know that some prophecies he has made has come true but others have not.

The reason why I still am not sure about him is his belief of what a true prophet is and what their true job of being a prophet is. It's intriguing, whether it intrigues me because of my itching ears or because there's truth in what he says I don't know.

I do know that in the late 90's he accurately predicted that George W. Bush would win the presidency in a controversial election in 2000. He also accurately said that Obama would win the election and these elections can be used as a good way to discribe the way he sees the job of the prophet.

He says that the prophet hears from God and then delivers the message. Then it's up to the people to believe the message or disregard it. People can and do effect the result. He often points to the story of Jonah and how he heard the message of the Lord saying to go to that city and tell them that they will be destroyed, but the people repented and God reversed his decision. Because the city was not destoryed did not make Jonah a false prophet, God originally had every intention of passing judgment upon that city, but because the people took that message and believed it and then acted upon it they effected the outcome and made God repent of his decision. By today's standards, Jonah would've been a false prophet because he said God was going to pass judgement and it didn't happen.

 

[nephilimiyr]

As far as I know from resources that he is a false teacher, preacher, prophet and a new age prophet.

The best way to find out any information, is to punch it in GOOGLE, such as Kim Clement False or Deception or whatever negative you can think and you will probably get enought information for you to discern.

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

Whatever happend to balance Elijah2? Anyone only making searches about him being a false prophet is more than likely to come to the conclusion that he is a false prophet. That's not using discernment but allowing yourself to be led by the conclusions of others.

 

[nephilimiyr]

he used to be a good prophet. but shortly after the first swearing in of President George W. Bush, he went to the White House to deliver a written prophesy to the president concerning Bush's tenure in office. the problem was not the prophesy but that he spoke about it with pride.

So the way to judge whether a prophet is true or false is to judge his heart and whether there's pride in it? Tell me, how do you know that pride was his downfall?

 

[Alpine]

When it comes to what I think about him being a true prophet, the jury is still out, I simply don't know. I know that some prophecies he has made has come true but others have not.

That's where I'm at too. He also predicated 9-11 amongst many other things. But then some of his other prophecies make little sense, or don't seem to have occurred.

 

[JimB]

I do not doubt that KC has a prophetic gifting—but then, we all do—I think it is just that he may feel pressure to prophesy the spectacular and oudo himself.

Agabus was also a prophet that predicted a famine (Acts 11) but it was another twenty years before we have a record of another prophecy of his (Acts 21). Agabus did not feel the need to take his show on the road, or promote his gift in any way. A man’s gift alone will make room for him. IMO, KC, feeling the need to outdo himself, oversteps his gift from time to time and maybe should reign it in a little and wait on the Lord more.

~Jim.

God brings us into deep waters not to drown us, but to cleanse us.​

 

[nephilimiyr]

I do not doubt that KC has a prophetic gifting—but then, we all do—I think it is just that he may feel pressure to prophesy the spectacular and oudo himself.

Agabus was also a prophet that predicted a famine (Acts 11) but it was another twenty years before we have a record of another prophecy of his (Acts 21). Agabus did not feel the need to take his show on the road, or promote his gift in any way. A man’s gift alone will make room for him. IMO, KC, feeling the need to outdo himself, oversteps his gift from time to time and maybe should reign it in a little and wait on the Lord more.

That could very well be Jim.

As for Agabus, his prophecy doesn't have to be seen as him "not feel the need to take his show on the road, or promote his gift in any way", it could be, but doesn't have to be. That however is an excellent point to make, especially for those people out there who are believing they are receiving prophecy but are not operating in the office of a prophet. As you stated, I think correctly, we all have a level of a prophetic gift in us.

Was Agabus a prophet that received many prophecies but only those two mentioned in the scripture being the only ones that the authors deemed worth telling about, or even the only two that Agabus prophecied correctly while his other prophecies fell flat? I don't know, the scripture does not say, does it?

I guess my point is, the Book of Acts was not a celebrity magazine of it's day (like the "People" mag.) so the reason why he is only mentioned twice after prophecing correctly doesn't, in my eyes, say that Agabus was against "taking his show on the road". He very well may have, after all, to make his prophecy in Acts 11 he traveled from Jerusalem to Antioch to make the prophecy. And in Acts 21, Agabus traveled down from Judea to make that prophecy. Now did he make the prophecy while in a traveling show full of glitz and enterainment, I highly doubt it. But people's perception of Kim Clement's meetings being nothing but glitz and entertainment is mearly an opinion of what is going on. I'm more than sure that others will say it's worship, nothing more.

 

[nephilimiyr]

That's where I'm at too. He also predicated 9-11 amongst many other things. But then some of his other prophecies make little sense, or don't seem to have occurred.

I'm not sure but didn't he also predict what would happen to New Orleans during the Katrina disaster, or am I thinking of someone else?

 

[nephilimiyr]

I guess my point is, the Book of Acts was not a celebrity magazine of it's day (like the "People" mag.) so the reason why he is only mentioned twice after prophecing correctly doesn't, in my eyes, say that Agabus was against "taking his show on the road". He very well may have, after all, to make his prophecy in Acts 11 he traveled from Jerusalem to Antioch to make the prophecy. And in Acts 21, Agabus traveled down from Judea to make that prophecy. Now did he make the prophecy while in a traveling show full of glitz and enterainment, I highly doubt it. But people's perception of Kim Clement's meetings being nothing but glitz and entertainment is mearly an opinion of what is going on. I'm more than sure that others will say it's worship, nothing more.

Actually, take a look at this:

Acts 21:11, Coming over to us, he took Paul's belt, tied his own hands and feet with it and said, The Holy Spirit says, In this way the Jews of Jerusalem will bind the owner of this belt and will hand him over to the gentiles.

By our standards of today that may not be glitz and entertainment the way we see it but that was certainly weird! What did he have to demonstrate it like that for? If someone today did something like that some would label that over the top and then he'd be mocked to high heaven, yet his prophecy did come to pass.

 

[JimB]

Actually, take a look at this:

Acts 21:11, Coming over to us, he took Paul's belt, tied his own hands and feet with it and said, The Holy Spirit says, In this way the Jews of Jerusalem will bind the owner of this belt and will hand him over to the gentiles.

By our standards of today that may not be glitz and entertainment the way we see it but that was certainly weird! What did he have to demonstrate it like that for? If someone today did something like that some would label that over the top and then he'd be mocked to high heaven, yet his prophecy did come to pass.

Agabus may very well have had a touch of showmanship in him. Why not? People are people. Some are just more dramatic than others.

~Jim.

People don’t fail; they just give up trying.​

 

[nephilimiyr]

Agabus may very well have had a touch of showmanship in him. Why not? People are people. Some are just more dramatic than others.

~Jim.

People don’t fail; they just give up trying.​

Agreed, and I also agree with some of the points you have made throughout the years about this, that some go over the top unecessarily so and perhaps for self-serving motives.