John Hagee - False Prophet?

[pdudgeon]

Also, people are false prophets who predict things that are from material that is about that historic events in the past.

nope, not quite.

prophets prophesy on future events.
predictors use extrapolated data to publish the odds on a future happening.

the first will tell of acts of God using the Word of God, while the second will tell you which horse will win the Bellmont Stakes race.

 

[Targaryen]

I am sure everyone here is familiar with John Hagee. He has been in the end times prophecy prediction business longer than I can remember. There has recently been a lot of excitement among my fellow believers in regards to his Four Blood Moons prediction.

My question is, given the man's track record, how can people see him as anything but a false prophet? He has been proven wrong time and time again, having predicted the rapture at numerous points as well as events like Y2K and the 2012 Mayan Calendar to trigger the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

There have been numerous fringe endtimes speculators who have went as far as to set a date and purchase billboards nationwide to advertise it i.e. Harold Camping, but what makes Hagee different is the influence he has among evangelicals and the Republican Party. He sells books and lots of them and is taken very seriously among many brothers and sisters.

John Hagee also promotes dual-covenant theology i.e. Jews can still be redeemed through the old Mosaic covenant and aren't under the covenant of the cross, which per the Bible is blatant heresy.

Why do so many take him seriously? Am I right to consider him a false prophet?

I'd be even stronger with my words on him, but this is a board where that language is unacceptable.

 

[Interplanner]

pdudgeon,
then a lot of the "prophecy experts" would have had people buying losing tickets with all their prediction mistakes

 

[pdudgeon]

pdudgeon,
then a lot of the "prophecy experts" would have had people buying losing tickets with all their prediction mistakes

agreed. By their fruits you will know them.

 

[karen4you]

Hi and gby. Anyone who proclaims to date set and ramble about knowing when these things will happen is a "FALSE PROPHET". He has set more dates than lance armstrong won false racing triathlons. Plus, I can't stand His voice. lol...

 

[abysmul]

Televangelist: that describes him enough for me.

 

[BABerean2]

I am sure everyone here is familiar with John Hagee. He has been in the end times prophecy prediction business longer than I can remember. There has recently been a lot of excitement among my fellow believers in regards to his Four Blood Moons prediction.

My question is, given the man's track record, how can people see him as anything but a false prophet? He has been proven wrong time and time again, having predicted the rapture at numerous points as well as events like Y2K and the 2012 Mayan Calendar to trigger the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

There have been numerous fringe endtimes speculators who have went as far as to set a date and purchase billboards nationwide to advertise it i.e. Harold Camping, but what makes Hagee different is the influence he has among evangelicals and the Republican Party. He sells books and lots of them and is taken very seriously among many brothers and sisters.

John Hagee also promotes dual-covenant theology i.e. Jews can still be redeemed through the old Mosaic covenant and aren't under the covenant of the cross, which per the Bible is blatant heresy.

Why do so many take him seriously? Am I right to consider him a false prophet?

I know at least one person who accepted the Gospel while sitting in his living room, listening to Pastor John Hagee preach on television.

It was me.


That was at least one moment when he was not a False prophet. It was a moment that was eternal for me.

As Pastor Hagee described the day Christ suffered on the cross, it felt as if a drop of blood ran down the Savior's body and dripped into the air. It felt like it fell onto me before it hit the ground. I cannot say for sure exactly what happened that day. However, I know it made me understand the sacrifice Christ made for me. I came to understand, I was the one who drove those spikes into his hands and feet.

Pastor Hagee is a Dispensationalist. They have been responsible for sending missionaries all over the world. One of the pastors I know in my area is also a Dispensationalist. He was speared in the jungle of Boliva, but went back to share the Gospel with the people who tried to kill him. The man who wielded the spear later became a Christian. This pastor is a better man than I am.

It saddens me to see Pastor Hagee promoting any doctrine that is clearly not scriptural. The descendants of Jacob can only obtain salvation through Christ. God's Word is clear on this matter. Pastor Hagee and many others have confused Israel of the Flesh with Israel of the Promise.

The Blood Moons is another delusion in my humble opinion.

I do not know how to draw the line between who is a False Prophet and who is not in this particular case, because of my personal predjudice in favor of the man who shared the Gospel with me.

Others will have to make that decision.

 

[karen4you]

Hi and gby. Anyone who proclaims to date set and ramble about knowing when these things will happen is a "FALSE PROPHET". He has set more dates than lance armstrong won false racing triathlons. Plus, I can't stand His voice. lol...

Opps...I thought I read "Hal Lindsey". Its funny though because I was watching about 3 min. of him and started to yawn. Its Hal Lindsey who is the "Date setter". Ha.. Its Hal Lindsay that I don't take heed too at all. Hagee has SOME okay views and theories on the "FOUR BLOOD MOONS". lol................ Will see uh?

 

[Interplanner]

The D'ists did charge all over the world due to their near-end understanding of some passages. By taking D'ism with them, it was a half step backward, but many people did hear that Christ loves them and gave himself up for them.

re the descendants of Isaac (BAB, above). More to the point: the salvation referred to in the famous Rom 11--Isaiah passages is justifcation, personal purification and entry into the new covenant. I dont' know anywhere in the NT where the apostles say there is the blessing of the Gospel for all, and for Israel there is also a miracle restoration of it as a nation state. There is one Gospel for all mankind.

 

[Interplanner]

The word processor is all disjointed here. Will try later.

 

[ebedmelech]

Hagee has a "cult following" of some in his church. I think it's just a matter of time, as his ridiculous assertions come to nought...that he will be a "byword".

 

[Ronald]

To be fair, the four blood moons prophecy hasn't proven false yet, but I wonder why I should put any stock in it ...

He does not claim to be a prophet. He just may interpret scripture inaccurately and lean towards Pre-Trib theology. John MacArthur is a sound Bible teacher but is also Pre-Trib.
Hey, all eschatology buffs on this forum pontificate about this is this and that is that and take opposite views, etc. We are not prophets in the sense that we claim to be a voice of God claiming, "Thus says the Lord ..."
We all get it wrong. Eschatology is confusing because of the sphere-like multi-dimensional end time scenario. It's not chronological and actually should be viewed as different vantage points with overlapping and repeated events.
He does get excited and in his excitement maybe gets carried away. I'm not saying pride and arrogance doesn't get in the way. It get's in our ways does it not. Or haven't you had a disagreement with someone who swears his way is correct and yours trash? I've read many writers on this forum accusing each others of being a false prophets. David Koresh, and Jim Jones were false prophets. A false prophet leads someone away from Jesus and does not love the Lord. He will distort what scripture says or means but anyone so into and anxiously awaiting the Second Coming of Jesus IS NOT A FALSE PROPHET. HE LOVES THE LORD AND IT IS EVIDENT. Be careful about your accusations!

As for the Blood Moons, the scripture referencing it has a solar eclipse attached to it and the last one did not. So we have the third and fourth which both have solar eclipses two weeks prior to the blood moons. The last one is a super blood moon that will be visible in Israel. So do not discount these events yet.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

What is his prediction about the four blood moons?

I had never heard of that before today. Weird!

John Hagee's FOUR BLOOD MOONS Debunked, refuted, exposed, false doctrine


Both Mark Biltz and John Hagee have indirectly hinted that the second coming of Christ, or Jesus planting his feet on the mount of Olives (Zech 14) or some other huge catastrophic event on 23 September 2015 (Yom Kippur). Such is irresponsible but boy does it sell books!
The FOUR BLOOD MOONS of John Hagee and Mark Biltz are refuted at the end of this outline.
Read more


VII. The four blood moons of John Hagee and Mark Biltz are money making scams!
The following outline adapted from William Stewart

Not visible in Jerusalem


Not visible on any land mass (over ocean)


Not visible in Jerusalem


Partially visible in Jerusalem


Passover

4-11 April 2015​

Adar 29


Last day of year


(Nisan 1 is 21 March)


Nothing


Special


Sukkah

28 Sept-4 Oct 2015​

 

[bibletruth469]

http://youtu.be/i9JmZBo8G5E

I watched john hagee in this video on Israel . I believe that he speaks the truth. We Christians should support Israel wholeheartedly! I do not believe that john hagee , from what I have seen in my own experiences is a false prophet. He supports Israel just like all Christians should !

 

[Targaryen]

JOHN HAGEE ON ISRAEL AND THE U.S WAKE UP PEOPLE - YouTube

I watched john hagee in this video on Israel . I believe that he speaks the truth. We Christians should support Israel wholeheartedly! I do not believe that john hagee , from what I have seen in my own experiences is a false prophet. He supports Israel just like all Christians should !

Good luck with that.

I'll stick to real truth and real Christianity.

 

[Jerico Miles]

I had never heard of that before today. Weird!

John Hagee's FOUR BLOOD MOONS Debunked, refuted, exposed, false doctrine


Both Mark Biltz and John Hagee have indirectly hinted that the second coming of Christ, or Jesus planting his feet on the mount of Olives (Zech 14) or some other huge catastrophic event on 23 September 2015 (Yom Kippur). Such is irresponsible but boy does it sell books!
The FOUR BLOOD MOONS of John Hagee and Mark Biltz are refuted at the end of this outline.
Read more

Do you have a link to a video or John Hagee's website where he actually made those predictions? I wanna hear his words on a video or his website making those predictions.

I don't find 3rd party websites making claims that John Hagee say this or that as evidence. Any hater or disbeliever can create a website and form their own opinion.

See where I'm getting at? Feel free to link something from John Hagee please so we can hear it from the horse's mouth.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Do you have a link to a video or John Hagee's website where he actually made those predictions? I wanna hear his words on a video or his website making those predictions.

I don't find 3rd party websites making claims that John Hagee say this or that as evidence. Any hater or disbeliever can create a website and form their own opinion.

See where I'm getting at? Feel free to link something from John Hagee please so we can hear it from the horse's mouth.

Umm, the links are in that post you quoted.

Here is his webpage. Click on #4:

Home Page



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[Jerico Miles]

Umm, the links are in that post you quoted.

Here is his webpage. Click on #4:

Home Page

New Companion Study Guide!

1 2 3 4 5 6 7



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That's a link to his ministry, which is huge. Where in there does it show him making those predictions. Please give a direct link of the page to that website where it's documented of him making these predictions.

I've seen many of his videos in the past and the only prediction I've witness from Hagee is "something is about to happen!"

So please, provide the direct link of the actual page where he makes false predictions. Please don't give me a haystack expecting me to find the needle in it.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

That's a link to his ministry, which is huge. Where in there does it show him making those predictions. Please give a direct link of the page to that website where it's documented of him making these predictions.

I've seen many of his videos in the past and the only prediction I've witness from Hagee is "something is about to happen!"

So please, provide the direct link of the actual page where he makes false predictions. Please don't give me a haystack expecting me to find the needle in it.

Look for it yourself or others can.
I am pretty much thru with this thread.......
Signing off



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[rockytopva]

I guess an evangelist who has not made his first million would be known as a false profit