JOHN 1:21-25Who was "That prophet" that they referred to

caller_to_truth · Sep 27, 2004

John 1 21-25
Joh 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

Joh 1:25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?

PLS who is that prophet mentioned here,Are the Christians or the Jews waiting for another prophet.Signs were given in the Books and they know who they were talking about but always out of arrogance denied it.Has he already come or are they waiting for asuprise guest.
WHO WAS THAT PROPHET?

caller_to_truth · Sep 27, 2004

Any more for anymore?

caller_to_truth · Sep 27, 2004

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Intrepid99 · Sep 27, 2004

caller_to_truth said:
John 1 21-25
Joh 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

Joh 1:25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?

PLS who is that prophet mentioned here,Are the Christians or the Jews waiting for another prophet.Signs were given in the Books and they know who they were talking about but always out of arrogance denied it.Has he already come or are they waiting for asuprise guest.
WHO WAS THAT PROPHET?

"The prophet" refers to the prophet foretold by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:15

Intrepid99 · Sep 27, 2004

Answers on a post card pls postage paid
No, it is your need that you needed an answer to this question. Therefore, you would pay for it.

caller_to_truth · Sep 27, 2004

Intrepid99 said:
"The prophet" refers to the prophet foretold by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:15

What prophet foretold in Deutronomy who was he? do you have a name for Him.Christians say that it was Jesus that was foretold in Deutronomy.Do you know something they don't
Peace

Intrepid99 · Sep 27, 2004

What prophet foretold in Deutronomy who was he? do you have a name for Him.
He was indeed Jesus Christ. Stephen used this verse to support his claim that Jesus Christ is God's Son, the Messiah (Acts 7:37)

Christians say that it was Jesus that was foretold in Deutronomy.Do you know something they don't
Peace
Who are "they"? If they are the Christians, yes, our notions are correct. It is indeed Jesus Christ. But if "they" are the religious leaders during John the Baptist's time, yea, I do know something they don't. Because I am ahead of time. They reiterated the specifications, "Messiah or The Prophet or Elijah". Elijah can be striked out right of the bat. If they are referring twice, they must have thought there would be two people who would be coming.
"The prophet" could also mean a 'false' prophet as their option is left open.

caller_to_truth · Sep 27, 2004

Intrepid99 said:
What prophet foretold in Deutronomy who was he? do you have a name for Him.
He was indeed Jesus Christ. Stephen used this verse to support his claim that Jesus Christ is God's Son, the Messiah (Acts 7:37)

Christians say that it was Jesus that was foretold in Deutronomy.Do you know something they don't
Peace
Who are "they"? If they are the Christians, yes, our notions are correct. It is indeed Jesus Christ. But if "they" are the religious leaders during John the Baptist's time, yea, I do know something they don't. Because I am ahead of time. They reiterated the specifications, "Messiah or The Prophet or Elijah". Elijah can be striked out right of the bat. If they are referring twice, they must have thought there would be two people who would be coming.
"The prophet" could also mean a 'false' prophet as their option is left open.

It says clearly that Prophetso it definitely was not Jesus cos they asked him are you the christ and are you elijah and are you That prophet.not the false prophets but one particular prophet.
Who? they were expecting someone??????

Intrepid99 · Sep 27, 2004

It says clearly that Prophetso it definitely was not Jesus cos they asked him are you the christ and are you elijah and are you That prophet.not the false prophets but one particular prophet.
Who? they were expecting someone??????
Would someone go and ask a thief,"Are you a thief?" This question dosen't show authority but stupidity. If John was himself false, would he accept himself as 'false' prophets to their questions?
Now, you have to get clear over the singular and plural use of the language. When there is one person, they wouldn't ask, "the false prophets"
Even if they asked, "Are you one of the false prophets?" Would he say, Yes or No?

caller_to_truth · Sep 27, 2004

Intrepid99 said:
It says clearly that Prophetso it definitely was not Jesus cos they asked him are you the christ and are you elijah and are you That prophet.not the false prophets but one particular prophet.
Who? they were expecting someone??????
Would someone go and ask a thief,"Are you a thief?" This question dosen't show authority but stupidity. If John was himself false, would he accept himself as 'false' prophets to their questions?
Now, you have to get clear over the singular and plural use of the language. When there is one person, they wouldn't ask, "the false prophets"
Even if they asked, "Are you one of the false prophets?" Would he say, Yes or No?

Either you are deliberately not getting the point or you are swaying from the true meaning.It says here "That prophet" meaning somebody in particular someone who the christian do not want to hear at all about so they will make up all sorts of Excuse , they will even bring up ghosts to justify who this is but because of arrogance many will deny the truth.The Pharisees and those before them were informed of new prophets to come so when jesus was being Questioned they knew exactly who That prophet was supposed to be.
Peace

new_manII · Sep 27, 2004

Hello everyone
Very good topic caller_to_truth, I hope you realy "wonder who is that prophet" as u write in your sign.
anyways, do you accept that fact that this prophet Jews were refering to, is the one that was mentioned in Dut. 18:15 prophicy? or you have another opinion?
if you agree on that, we can move to the next point...

waiting for your reply
thanks in advance
nmII

Intrepid99 · Sep 27, 2004

Either you are deliberately not getting the point or you are swaying from the true meaning.
It is not me but rather you who are deliberating swaying away from the true meaning. You have started a thread saying that Jesus never said He was the God in the bible. I don't find any more wayward arguments that you have posted in that thread. Aren't you who is deliberately being blind to the lucid commandments He had made? Everyone in here knows the flaws and holes in your arguments. Would you expect to see 300 billion Christians (Actual Saved Christians-- unknown) to follow bible by denying Christ as God? You asked me questions about false prophets. What is so unclear about my explanation?

It says here "That prophet" meaning somebody in particular someone who the christian do not want to hear at all about so they will make up all sorts of Excuse , they will even bring up ghosts to justify who this is but because of arrogance many will deny the truth.
Someone who the Christians do not want to hear?? Actually there were no Christians at that point of time. There were Jews. Even Christ did not enter the arena. John the Baptist was still preparing for Jesus arrival. And, I have no idea what you are talking about in your next statements. Tell me, who will bring up ghosts, and who will deny it with arrogance?

The Pharisees and those before them were informed of new prophets to come so when jesus was being Questioned they knew exactly who That prophet was supposed to be.
Peace
John the Baptist is being questioned here. What does it have to do with Jesus and questioning Him?

TheListener · Sep 27, 2004

[size=-1]John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.[/size]

Looks like you are trying to get a bit of credit for muhammed from a questionable bit of scripture. No need for that, Jesus already made it clear. I hope this clears things up for you a bit God Bless

caller_to_truth · Sep 28, 2004

new_manII said:
Hello everyone
Very good topic caller_to_truth, I hope you realy "wonder who is that prophet" as u write in your sign.
anyways, do you accept that fact that this prophet Jews were refering to, is the one that was mentioned in Dut. 18:15 prophicy? or you have another opinion?
if you agree on that, we can move to the next point...

waiting for your reply
thanks in advance
nmII

This could be referred to as the prophet mentionned in Deut 18:15.But My point is were the Christians or the jews at that time after Jesus had arrived and Elijah, were they expecting anybody else.If not then this verse or this sequence of events is an insertion like many other insertions in the Bible.It has to be one or the Other and if Yes they were aware of the coming of another protherwho ws "that prophet" who was mentioned.So whether he is the one in deutronomy or not it is referring here to some body else because John had been asked if he was The christ,so that discounts him out,he was asked if he was Elias(elijah) that discounts him out too.So who is that prophet. it all depends on who you are saying was being described in Deutronomy.
Peace

caller_to_truth · Sep 28, 2004

TheListener said:
[size=-1]John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.[/size]

Looks like you are trying to get a bit of credit for muhammed from a questionable bit of scripture. No need for that, Jesus already made it clear. I hope this clears things up for you a bit God Bless

No one is trying to get any bit of credit for anybody.When the proof is there then why disregard it.No suddenly this verse for you has become questionable bit of Scripture and what if other verse are proven to be showing otherwise they will become questionable bits of scripture too. and what about the whole book will you agree that is questionable too.
God sent the truth through many prophets but people due to the arrogance refused to beleive even though the proofs were shown to them
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Unfortunately for this verse people do not act according to it they just use it to hide being when they are trying to justify Jesus divinity.IF jesus is the the way and the truth.Do what he did follow his way.act like he did.leave what he left, then may be you can attain god not just by lip service
peace

TheListener · Sep 28, 2004

1 - Look at the verse
2 - Look at the verse in context of the chapter
3 - Look at the verse in context of the book
4 - Look at the verse in context of the Bible

There are many many signs saying that Christ is to come. There are also many many signs that he is the only way, the only salvation. There is nothing saying there is another guy to come. There is one word (which in context means nothing as you seem to not understand) which if you really wanted to could mean the Jews were confused. Islam is a false religion. You've been lied to as I was for all my life. Why is this so difficult to understand?

caller_to_truth · Sep 28, 2004

Intrepid99 said:
Either you are deliberately not getting the point or you are swaying from the true meaning.
It is not me but rather you who are deliberating swaying away from the true meaning. You have started a thread saying that Jesus never said He was the God in the bible. I don't find any more wayward arguments that you have posted in that thread. Aren't you who is deliberately being blind to the lucid commandments He had made? Everyone in here knows the flaws and holes in your arguments. Would you expect to see 300 billion Christians (Actual Saved Christians-- unknown) to follow bible by denying Christ as God? You asked me questions about false prophets. What is so unclear about my explanation?

It says here "That prophet" meaning somebody in particular someone who the christian do not want to hear at all about so they will make up all sorts of Excuse , they will even bring up ghosts to justify who this is but because of arrogance many will deny the truth.
Someone who the Christians do not want to hear?? Actually there were no Christians at that point of time. There were Jews. Even Christ did not enter the arena. John the Baptist was still preparing for Jesus arrival. And, I have no idea what you are talking about in your next statements. Tell me, who will bring up ghosts, and who will deny it with arrogance?

The Pharisees and those before them were informed of new prophets to come so when jesus was being Questioned they knew exactly who That prophet was supposed to be.
Peace
John the Baptist is being questioned here. What does it have to do with Jesus and questioning Him?

I am referring to the Christians of Today who like the Jews at the time Of Jesus denied the scriptures and the proofs put before them.Tampered with the word of god and attributed it it to GOD. Who is that prophet. If they are asking John who is that prophet then obviously as they knew John knew tyoo of another prophet who was due to come after Jesus, as they already asked him are you the christ and he denied, and are you Elias(elijah ) he denied so obviously they all knew of the coming of another prophet.WHO?The books were clear that somebody else was supposed to come.WHO?

TheListener · Sep 28, 2004

I dont think Christianity is on trial here, you got it wrong.

Again I write:

[size=-1]John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.[/size]

Matthew 24:11:
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Now tell me, who is muhammed?

caller_to_truth · Sep 28, 2004

TheListener said:
1 - Look at the verse
2 - Look at the verse in context of the chapter
3 - Look at the verse in context of the book
4 - Look at the verse in context of the Bible

There are many many signs saying that Christ is to come. There are also many many signs that he is the only way, the only salvation. There is nothing saying there is another guy to come. There is one word (which in context means nothing as you seem to not understand) which if you really wanted to could mean the Jews were confused. Islam is a false religion. You've been lied to as I was for all my life. Why is this so difficult to understand?

I think you are the one who has not understood your own scriptures here.John had alreday been asked are you the christ, he denied and also about being elijah he denied so how can we turn the 3 rd question again to christ when he was already asked it and denied it.The jews were told who was due to come and so was John and so was Jesus. they knew clearly.It is only the people who came after who were so arroganyt so as to play around with verse and make black seem white. After Christ and elijah it is clear they ask about another prophet"That Prophet" my question is clear who could that prophet be.Those who held the scripture before they knew otherwise they would not have asked.
Peace

TheListener · Sep 28, 2004

Have you thought about maybe it was necessary for it to be this way so that the scriptures and God's Will would happen?

Tell me this, could Jesus have stopped Judas if he wanted to? Yes, but that was not what was meant to happen. And he could have stopped the entire process at any time. We aren't meant to understand some things. But we are clearly warned against other things.

God Bless

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