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Jeff Clark: I Can’t Find Evidence Kamala Harris Led the Prosecution of a Single Case

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That’s not his claim, though.
I thought it was.

Unless youre now talking about the "guns I carried in war" thing, which was really dumb of him to say, and I hope he took care to publically retract it.
 
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I thought it was.

Unless youre now talking about the "guns I carried in war" thing, which was really dumb of him to say, and I hope he took care to publically retract it.
He’s says he was a retired Command Master Sergeant. That means he would be able to still use that insignia if he ever wore his uniform for certain functions.
 
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He’s says he was a retired Command Master Sergeant. That means he would be able to still use that insignia if he ever wore his uniform for certain functions.
This is just not a big deal for me so long as he did the job satisfactorily.

If he did wear insignia he's not entitled to, that would be bad.
 
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This is just not a big deal for me so long as he did the job satisfactorily.

If he did wear insignia he's not entitled to, that would be bad.
As long as stolen honor isn’t a big deal, okay.
 
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As long as stolen honor isn’t a big deal, okay.
That makes it sound way worse than what happened. I understand how it can seem politically useful to carry on about this tho. So do what you gotta do.
 
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That makes it sound way worse than what happened. I understand how it can seem politically useful to carry on about this tho. So do what you gotta do.
Stolen valor is a big deal. But I guess it isn’t to some folks, which is quite sad.
 
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Stolen valor is a big deal. But I guess it isn’t to some folks, which is quite sad.
Valor: "great courage in the face of danger, especially in battle."

Valor isnt even at issue here. So I don't know what you're talking about.
 
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Valor: "great courage in the face of danger, especially in battle."

Valor isnt even at issue here. So I don't know what you're talking about.
Just say that you don’t understand.
 
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Just say that you don’t understand.
Stolen valor refers to lying about having served in the military or the extent of your military service. Walz has done neither - he definitely served in the military, and he performed the duties of a CSM (and was provisionally promoted to that rank).
 
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I dont care.
So when Waltz lies on his resume and one of his former employers confirms the lie that that lie, you don't care. His former boss called him a coward. But you don't care. Veterans have confronted him and accused him of stolen valor, but you don't care. So what DO you care about? You care about whatever it takes to prevent Trump from being reelected...period.
 
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Stolen valor refers to lying about having served in the military or the extent of your military service.
He lied about the extent of his military experience. So even by your definition, Waltz is guilty of stolen valor.
 
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No, he didn't. And it's not my definition: Stolen Valor
Your definition:
Stolen valor refers to lying about having served in the military or the extent of your military service.
Waltz lied about the extent of his military service by claiming that he served in combat in combat zones. Hence, stolen valor. Now continue to your "weird" attempt to justify or defend Waltz.
 
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So when Waltz lies on his resume and one of his former employers confirms the lie that that lie, you don't care. His former boss called him a coward. But you don't care. Veterans have confronted him and accused him of stolen valor, but you don't care. So what DO you care about? You care about whatever it takes to prevent Trump from being reelected...period.
Show me where valor is at issue here. I even posted a non controversial definition earlier.

I will tell you what my goal is here. My goal here is to talk about reality.

Thats why I said earlier in this thread that Walz' talk about what guns he carried "in war" was much worse than this little nothing. Thats because "in war" kind of implies that you were in combat, which, unlike this retirement thing, actually could be "stolen valor". And I hope he repented of that. So lay off the mind reading about what my goals here are.
 
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I will tell you what my goal is here. My goal here is to talk about reality.
Then going back on topic, the reality is that Waltz is just as much of a lying fraud as Kamala. Whether it is stolen valor or recreating a false record as VP, neither can run on their performance or record. So they just bash Trump and gaslight.
 
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Your definition:

Waltz lied about the extent of his military service by claiming that he served in combat in combat zones.
Except he didn't. He said he carried weapons "in war". Which, while possibly misleading, is technically true - he was part of support forces deployed to Italy during the Afghanistan invasion (meaning that he was deployed "in war") and would have carried a gun at the time. If he had spent 2003 sitting in Minnesota, then yeah, stolen valor. But he didn't, so it isn't.

@RDKirk has discussed this in other threads from the perspective of someone who was in a similar position during the Vietnam War.
Now continue to your "weird" attempt to justify or defend Waltz.
What's weird about correcting the record?
 
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Then going back on topic, the reality is that Waltz is just as much of a lying fraud as Kamala. Whether it is stolen valor or recreating a false record as VP, neither can run on their performance or record. So they just bash Trump and gaslight.
Back on topic is actually the absurd implication that Harris never prosecuted a case.

Talk about "any means necessary" to advance political objectives!
 
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Against, nothing in that article where he said it was happening. He said he was repeating what he was told.
Oh bologna! He said he was repeating what he was told, but very selectively. He had his aide contact town officials to ask about this specifically and was informed no, there was no evidence that pets were missing or eaten. Yet he chose to ignore that in favor of hate-mongering for political advantage at the expense of the community.

Bomb threats, school closings, etc. ensued, disrupting the community.
 
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