JB Pritzker Reveals The Talk Show Stunt Trump Wanted In Exchange For COVID Equipment

[FreeinChrist]

Have you tracked excess mortality in those places? You maybe should. I often said throughout the pandemic that we weren't "saving lives" but that we were trading them to other causes. I know that there was a myopic focus on COVID, but people die from other causes. People in nursing homes literally died from loneliness. What a cruel imposition on someone at the end of their life all in the name of "protecting" them.



Fauci, who did such a great job that Biden had to grant him a pardon dating back to January 2014, around the same time that he was funding the risky research in Wuhan that almost certainly led to the creation of SARS-CoV2. Even the NYT now admits that we were "badly misled" (without acknowledging that they were tacit in the misleading).

Yet in 2020, when people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the COVID-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Many public health officials and prominent scientists dismissed the idea as a conspiracy theory, insisting that the virus had emerged from animals in a seafood market in Wuhan, China. And when a nonprofit called EcoHealth Alliance lost a grant because it was planning to conduct risky research into bat viruses with the Wuhan Institute of Virology — research that, if conducted with lax safety standards, could have resulted in a dangerous pathogen leaking out into the world — no fewer than 77 Nobel laureates and 31 scientific societies lined up to defend the organization.​

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So the Wuhan research was totally safe, and the pandemic was definitely caused by natural transmission — it certainly seemed like consensus.​

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We have since learned, however, that to promote the appearance of consensus, some officials and scientists hid or understated crucial facts, misled at least one reporter, orchestrated campaigns of supposedly independent voices and even compared notes about how to hide their communications in order to keep the public from hearing the whole story. And as for that Wuhan laboratory’s research, the details that have since emerged show that safety precautions might have been terrifyingly lax.​

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Opinion | We Were Badly Misled About the Event That Changed Our Lives

Five years after the start of Covid, we still don’t know the truth.

www.nytimes.com

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This has gone off topic. I tracked much more than you know, and actually talked with nurses who were taking care of Covid patients in the first year, having been an ICU nurse with friends in ICU. There is something missing in how you are reading things, but I do not care to discuss it with you .

Fauci, along with others, was simply pardoned to protect him from the nastiness of Trump.

Now please get back to the topic.

 

[probinson]

This has gone off topic. I tracked much more than you know, and actually talked with nurses who were taking care of Covid patients in the first year, having been an ICU nurse with friends in ICU. There is something missing in how you are reading things, but I do not care to discuss it with you .

That's fine. I don't think you could have a conversation on the topic in earnest anyway. You mostly ignore when I post evidence.

Fauci, along with others, was simply pardoned to protect him from the nastiness of Trump.

Fauci was pardoned because he was guilty of lying to congress and was almost certainly involved in the creation of SARS-CoV2. If you haven't done so, I highly recommend reading the NYT article that documents just how badly we were misled about the origins of the pandemic and Fauci's role in it.

Now please get back to the topic.

OK.

Pritzker says Trump required fealty, HuffPo dutifully reports what he said. Is there any evidence of this? Pritzker said in his speech that there was a plan placed in front of him. Can he show us that plan?

 

[FreeinChrist]

That's fine. I don't think you could have a conversation on the topic in earnest anyway. You mostly ignore when I post evidence.

I see the evidene differently, having worked in critical care and more. Some 'evidence' is not worth responding to.

Fauci was pardoned because he was guilty of lying to congress and was almost certainly involved in the creation of SARS-CoV2. If you haven't done so, I highly recommend reading the NYT article that documents just how badly we were misled about the origins of the pandemic and Fauci's role in it.

No. But we will not agree on that.

OK.

Pritzker says Trump required fealty, HuffPo dutifully reports what he said. Is there any evidence of this? Pritzker said in his speech that there was a plan placed in front of him. Can he show us that plan?

Here is another article with a different author.

Illinois Governor Says Trump Wanted to Trade Life-Saving Equipment for Praise on TV During Pandemic

"He would send life-saving equipment if only we would agree to praise him on the Sunday talk shows. That is literally a deal that he put in front of me”

www.mediaite.com

...He also accused Trump and his allies of viewing “people’s lives as a game” and recalled a story from the Covid-19 pandemic to illustrate his point.​

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Trump “could have fought for us. He really could have,” Pritzker said of the early days of the pandemic when masks and ventilators were in short supply for healthcare workers and patients.​

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“Instead, he made self-serving deals. He would send life-saving equipment if only we would agree to praise him on the Sunday talk shows. That is literally a deal that he put in front of me,” Pritzker said....​

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[probinson]

I see the evidene differently, having worked in critical care and more. Some 'evidence' is not worth responding to.

I guess that's a convenient way to dismiss any evidence that calls into question how you see the evidence.

No. But we will not agree on that.

Well OK. But evidence is mounting daily that Fauci was not only fully aware of SARS-CoV2 but that he approved the grants that likely resulted in its creation. Not only that, but he actively sought to circumvent FOIA requests by using personal email accounts and intentionally misspelling words. Maybe at some point you'll examine the evidence and realize just how badly misled you were about the origins of the virus. Or maybe not.

Here is another article with a different author.

Illinois Governor Says Trump Wanted to Trade Life-Saving Equipment for Praise on TV During Pandemic

"He would send life-saving equipment if only we would agree to praise him on the Sunday talk shows. That is literally a deal that he put in front of me”

www.mediaite.com

...He also accused Trump and his allies of viewing “people’s lives as a game” and recalled a story from the Covid-19 pandemic to illustrate his point.​

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Trump “could have fought for us. He really could have,” Pritzker said of the early days of the pandemic when masks and ventilators were in short supply for healthcare workers and patients.​

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“Instead, he made self-serving deals. He would send life-saving equipment if only we would agree to praise him on the Sunday talk shows. That is literally a deal that he put in front of me,” Pritzker said....​

So... another author that quotes exactly what Pritzker said. Compelling stuff.

Let's look at the last line. Pritzker said, "That is a literally a deal that he put in front of me". Now assuming that Pritzker understands what the word "literally" means, can he show us that "deal"? Or do I just have to take his word?

 

[Lukaris]

Fauci was a such a trustworthy advisor:

Anthony Fauci gives misleading, evasive answers about NIH-funded research at Wuhan lab

At a congressional hearing, Anthony Fauci tried to dismiss credible claims that his agency funded gain-of-function research.

reason.com

 

[FreeinChrist]

The topic is not Fauci.

 

[NxNW]

I'm just happy you've finally spelled the word "pathetic" correctly.

Really? You're arguing about typos?

 

[NxNW]

That's fine. I don't think you could have a conversation on the topic in earnest anyway. You mostly ignore when I post evidence.

You haven't posted any evidence.

Fauci was pardoned because he was guilty of lying to congress and was almost certainly involved in the creation of SARS-CoV2.

You haven't posted any evidence of either claim.

If you haven't done so, I highly recommend reading the NYT article that documents just how badly we were misled about the origins of the pandemic and Fauci's role in it.

Trump says NYT can't be trusted. I don't trust them either. Find a more reliable source.

 

[Pommer]

Really? You're arguing about typos?

Squibs are technically fireworks too.

 

[probinson]

Really? You're arguing about typos?

No, I'm commenting on typos. It's something pedantic people do. I'll even comment on my own, when I make them.

 

[probinson]

You haven't posted any evidence.

You don't think the Cochrane Review is evidence? Alrighty then.

You haven't posted any evidence of either claim.

Sure I have. You just can't be bothered to read it. Which is fine. But don't lie and say no evidence has been presented. There are FOIA emails, grant applications and more if you'll just read the article and do a little of your own digging. But then you'd actually have to address it, and I know it's far easier (although much more intellectually dishonest) to pretend like no evidence exists.

Trump says NYT can't be trusted. I don't trust them either. Find a more reliable source.

Since when do you care what Trump has to say?

The veracity of reporting isn't determined by who reports it but by whether or not what they are saying can be corroborated. The NYT isn't particularly high on my trust list either. In fact, I think that the NYT was instrumental in misleading people about the origins of the virus. But when the reporting references evidence that can be examined directly you can ignore the source and simply examine the evidence. It's also significant that the NYT, which is emblematic of the "mainstream media", is now admitting what many of us have known for years.

In any event, the OP has made clear that this isn't the topic of this thread. The topic is that Pritzker seems upset that his scrap pile of ventilators wasn't quite as big as New York's or Canada's. He says there was "literally" a deal where he had to trade fealty for "livesaving equipment", but thus far, I've not seen any evidence that this "literal" deal exists. I guess I'm just supposed to take Pritzker's word in a classic case of he said/he said. But then, claims bereft of evidence seem to be par for the course for anything COVID related with some people.

 

[St. Helens]

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