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Jack Chick's View on Catholicism

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What do you think of his views he had on the Roman Catholic Church? Not only what you think, but WHY?

I will say that I believe Constantine brought much into the church that shouldn't have been in there, but I think Roman Catholics can still be saved as long as they accept Jesus as the Savior of their sin.

For those of you who don't know who Jack Chick was and his views, here's some links:

Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Last Rites
Papa
Why Is Mary Crying?
 
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What do you think of his views on the Roman Catholic Church? Not only what you think, but WHY?

I will say that I believe Constantine brought much into the church that shouldn't have been in there, but I think Roman Catholics can still be saved as long as they accept Jesus as the Savior of their sin.

For those of you who don't know who Jack Chick was and his views, here's some links:

Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Last Rites
Papa
Why Is Mary Crying?

Isn't he deceased?
 
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I've never really understood why so many think that Roman Catholic Christians somehow don't acknowledge Jesus.

The Cathechism of the (Roman) Catholic Church says clearly in paragraph 430

"Jesus means in Hebrew: 'God saves.' At the annunciation, the angel Gabriel gave him the name Jesus as his proper name, which expresses both his identity and his mission. Since God alone can forgive sins, it is God who, in Jesus his eternal Son made man, "will save his people from their sins". In Jesus, God recapitulates all of his history of salvation on behalf of men."

But anyway, about the claims that Jack Chick (who is deceased, yes) expresses about Roman Catholicism...

One, these cartoon tracts are effective in getting and keeping people's attention. In my opinion, they are well-designed (although the drawings are often very poor or only mechanically competent).

Two, even when we take into consideration that everything in these tracts is cartoonishly exaggerated, the paranoid worldview they contain is bizarre. It is either dishonest or evidence of an inability to understand the world in a non-childish way.

"Dignity and Duties" is (sort of) cited in several places in the tract called "Papa." But "Dignity and Duties" is not an authoritative statement of any of the teachings of the RCC.

But that's not the worst of it. The tract depicts a child being confirmed in the RCC. The text reads "Anthony is 'sealed with the gift of the Holy Spirit' - or is it some other visitor?" The obvious suggestion is that it isn't the Holy Spirit but a demon or something. First, there is no reason to think that (if there is such a reason, why isn't it explained in the tract?). Second, the bit about the Holy Spirit is in quotes, but not cited. Even if we let that slide since the CCC does say "by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptized]...are enriched with a special strength of the Holy Spirit", we still can note that the words (sort of) of a church publication are quoted...and then replaced by a "suggestion". In other words, the church is responsible for whatever the Chick tract says. Yet in the very same panel, the text below the picture reads "Confirmation is said to 'bind a child into the Church.' In their own words, he is in bondage!"

So in some instances, the tract gets to replace the words of a church publication with others, and the Church is responsible. But in some instances, the words of the publication are to be willfully misinterpreted -- and again the Church is responsible. But since we've established that you get to replace whatever words you want, why not suggest that 'binding' really means 'loosing'? Or whatever?

No. Paranoid worldview aside, the tracts are intellectually dishonest. If there are problems with the RCC or any Christian body, meet them fairly and head-on.
 
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OKAY, HIS VIEWS WHEN HE WAS STILL ALIVE!!!

THERE, AM I BEING TECHNICAL ENOUGH?

I prefer letting this man rest in peace, and his views along with him.
 
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What do you think of his views he had on the Roman Catholic Church? Not only what you think, but WHY?

I will say that I believe Constantine brought much into the church that shouldn't have been in there, but I think Roman Catholics can still be saved as long as they accept Jesus as the Savior of their sin.

For those of you who don't know who Jack Chick was and his views, here's some links:

Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Last Rites
Papa
Why Is Mary Crying?
I think Jack Chick is going to be held accountable for all of the lies he told while he was alive. Chick's information came from two places. Alexander Hislop's The Two Babylons was discredited by real historians long ago. Not only did he make wild connections, he fabricated things. The man started with a presupposition and worked backwards and reached really hard to make things fit. Even folks who were well and ready to believe him found out his work was a sham, to their dismay, when they actually checked his sources and discovered he fabricated them. Jack Chick and his little con-artist friend- Alberto Rivera- only made an even bigger gothic novella out of the whole kit and kaboodle by taking his work and running with it (no need for source citations and truth in that little fantasy land).

As to why: There has been a concerted effort by the culture at large, over the past couple hundred years, to be anti-Catholic. For example, one of the hallmarks of classic gothic fiction is pervasive anti-Catholicism (and Chick tracts are the modern incarnation of that). It has been culturally ingrained. They don't need to know the truth about something when they've had their prejudices and straw men passed down from generation to generation. Couple that with American individualism and how the very idea of liturgical and corporate worship takes away from this individualistic view, and how many are extremely proud of their heritage and forebears that came to this country and specifically rejected traditional Christianity in lieu of the so-called Great Awakening, and it is a recipe for hate.
 
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I prefer letting this man rest in peace, and his views along with him.
His ministry still exists and still distributes his leaflets. So it's still relevant.
 
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I was taught many things about the Catholicism, and IF THOSE THINGS HAD BEEN TRUE, well, Lord have mercy!

But it's never very fair to listen to what someone who strongly condemns a group has to say about them, and judge based on that.

So one day, I asked Catholics myself what they believe, and read historic documents, and did the research myself.

I concluded that Catholicism is in error in several things, but in most cases not the ones I was taught, and pretty much everything I was taught turned out to be a gross misrepresentation. (Jack Chick's tracts included)

So, I'm not Catholic. But I do count them as brothers and sisters in Christ, for the most part. (I count people in just about any denomination as well as my own Church as brothers and sisters in Christ, for the most part.) But God will judge us all - that certainly isn't my place.

Many more specific things can be said, but that is the general answer. I would advise anyone to find out the truth and do some research themselves before taking anyone's word to condemn others - especially whole groups of people.
 
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What do you think of his views he had on the Roman Catholic Church? Not only what you think, but WHY?

I will say that I believe Constantine brought much into the church that shouldn't have been in there, but I think Roman Catholics can still be saved as long as they accept Jesus as the Savior of their sin.

For those of you who don't know who Jack Chick was and his views, here's some links:

Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Last Rites
Papa
Why Is Mary Crying?
Jack Chick was a VERY ignorant man with strong views. He used those absurd tracts of his to spread his views.
 
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That cartoon-tract form used by his ministry is quite attractive and effective, though. A sight more grabbing than many other kinds of tract. That tool shouldn't be abandoned to the Chick ministry.
 
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He was an ugly propagandist. His views of Catholicism were malicious and slanderous. God have mercy on his poor, ignorant soul.
 
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As to why: There has been a concerted effort by the culture at large, over the past couple hundred years, to be anti-Catholic. For example, one of the hallmarks of classic gothic fiction is pervasive anti-Catholicism (and Chick tracts are the modern incarnation of that). It has been culturally ingrained.

In Anglo-Saxon countries it's called "The Black Legend". The Tudors and the Dutch were largely were responsible for creating it.

I do think though there is a sometimes love-hate relationship with Catholics in gothic fiction and horror. It's the same in Hollywood. Catholicism is very visual and dramatic so its the perfect religion for film and stories.
 
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Oops, and please forgive me. I just noticed you are new to the forums.

Welcome to CF! We are glad that you've joined us, and I pray you are blessed by being here. :)

What do you think of his views he had on the Roman Catholic Church? Not only what you think, but WHY?

I will say that I believe Constantine brought much into the church that shouldn't have been in there, but I think Roman Catholics can still be saved as long as they accept Jesus as the Savior of their sin.

For those of you who don't know who Jack Chick was and his views, here's some links:

Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Last Rites
Papa
Why Is Mary Crying?
 
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For those of you who don't know who Jack Chick was and his views, here's some links:
I thought he said those chictracks. I don't know what they said about the catholics. I never handed out chictracks. Mine said "what do you have to do to go to hell" and the inside was blank. I remember handing it to a Jewess and she laughed, her satanist friend freaked out and a passerbyer started yelling at me for being judged for every word that comes out of his mouth. I was stunned for a moment but said he'd be judged for every thought. Then we were all friends.
I guess that's a bit off topic
 
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I will say that I believe Constantine brought much into the church that shouldn't have been in there
Oh? What did Constantine bring into the Church?
 
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