Is this pushing an ideology?

[partinobodycular]

The Spirit of God is clear;
9 Don’t you know that people who are unjust won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Those who are sexually immoral, those who worship false gods, adulterers, both participants in same-sex intercourse, 10 thieves, the greedy, drunks, abusive people, and swindlers won’t inherit God’s kingdom. 11 That is what some of you used to be! But you were washed clean, you were made holy to God, and you were made right with God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

Inside the confines of your church you're perfectly free to hate whomever you want to. Go ahead, hate away. But don't be surprised if outside of it, the rest of us take offense.

 

[Palmfever]

Inside the confines of your church you're perfectly free to hate whomever you want to. Go ahead, hate away. But don't be surprised if outside of it, the rest of us take less kindly to it.

God gives us the freedom to choose our path in life, right or wrong.
I don't need anyones consent to speak the word of God.
To watch children playing in the middle of a busy street and encourage such behavior under the guise of love and acceptance is not of God. Anyone who takes offense at Gods Word is lost.
I don't expect those who walk in darkness to be pleased with scripture rather to walk off the cliff with their beloved piper.

 

[partinobodycular]

I don't need anyones consent to speak the word of God.

Oddly enough, that's pretty much what this thread is about... your right to preach intolerance whenever and wherever you want to. You may find that the more sensible among us have decided that that's a right that the you don't actually have.

 

[Palmfever]

Oddly enough, that's pretty much what this thread is about... your right to preach intolerance whenever and wherever you want to. You may find that the more sensible among us have decided that that's a right that the you don't actually have.

I'm familier with the group and not unaware of their father.
'We wrestle nor against flesh and blood.'

 

[ozso]

That post alone is enough to tell me the sad state of Christianity. When we need to define for them the places where they should be tolerant of others. But what's sadder yet, is that it implies that the most intolerant place that one can possibly find... is a church.

What about all the churches with rainbow flags and banners? click

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Could you give a description with more details please? Where is the space? At work, at school, in a store, out in the street? What does it look like? A room with a door they can lock? Some sort of isolation cube?

These days more like a church or an organization or even a person's private home.
Some people were little badges like "You are safe with me".

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

19 Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, and they are full of greed.

20 That, however, is not the way of life you learned

But it seem we single out the LGBTQ.

Meanwhile we elect a confessed sexual predator with no remorse and we reward greed as "prosperity".

 

[partinobodycular]

I'm familier with the group and not unaware of their father.

Neither am I unsympathetic with your quest to do what you believe is right. I simply have to question the manner in which many Christians choose to do it. It's as if they're more concerned about demonstrating what wonderful, loyal Christians they are, then they are about the people that they're supposedly trying to save. It seems as if they think that they're dealing with the devil himself, and so any semblance of empathy or humanity can be left by the wayside. But no matter how degenerate people may seem to be, it's possible to be effective and compassionate at the same time. It's possible to be accepting of someone's faults while still earnestly trying to change their hearts.

It's not necessary to abandon one's Christian compassion in order to make the world aware that you have it, in fact compassion in the face of contempt is the clearest evidence that you do. So for Christ's sake... be compassionate.

 

[partinobodycular]

What about all the churches with rainbow flags and banners?

When a Christian decided to hang a rainbow flag in front of their church the Grinch's heart grew three sizes that day. Mine too.

 

[ozso]

These days more like a church or an organization or even a person's private home.
Some people were little badges like "You are safe with me".

Should one trust a stranger or a strange house with a badge/sign saying you're safe with me?

 

[ozso]

When a Christian decided to hang a rainbow flag in front of their church the Grinch's heart grew three sizes that day. Mine too.

Most likely if one goes into any church saying "I need help someone is after me" they're not going to get kicked out whether or not it has a PRIDE flag. The trick though is getting there when the church is open.

 

[ozso]

Neither am I unsympathetic with your quest to do what you believe is right. I simply have to question the manner in which many Christians choose to do it. It's as if they're more concerned about demonstrating what wonderful, loyal Christians they are, then they are about the people that they're supposedly trying to save. It seems as if they think that they're dealing with the devil himself, and so any semblance of empathy or humanity can be left by the wayside. But no matter how degenerate people may seem to be, it's possible to be effective and compassionate at the same time. It's possible to be accepting of someone's faults while still earnestly trying to change their hearts.

It's not necessary to abandon one's Christian compassion in order to make the world aware that you have it, in fact compassion in the face of contempt is the clearest evidence that you do. So for Christ's sake... be compassionate.

Have you ever heard/read a Christian saying they would reject anyone seeking salvation? I think people who make comments like that, don't really know how Christians and the Church operates regarding the lost. I think it's mostly just a lot of unwarranted prejudicial hate being expressed.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Most likely if one goes into any church saying "I need help someone is after me" they're not going to get kicked out whether or not it has a PRIDE flag. The trick though is getting there when the church is open.

Oh, I don't know about that. I've heard some stories otherwise, and those were when the Church was open.

I think the problem stems from the fact that some people think a church is a political bastion rather than a spiritual and social refuge.

 

[partinobodycular]

Have you ever heard/read a Christian saying they would reject anyone seeking salvation?

You do realize that there are whole sections of this website where I can't go.

 

[ozso]

You do realize that there are whole sections of this website where I can't go.

Why do you think that is?

 

[ozso]

Oh, I don't know about that. I've heard some stories otherwise, and those were when the Church was open.

I'm sure there's plenty of made up stories out there.

I think the problem stems from the fact that some people think a church is a political bastion rather than a spiritual and social refuge.

As you know, most churches stay away from politics.

 

[partinobodycular]

Most likely if one goes into any church saying "I need help someone is after me" they're not going to get kicked out whether or not it has a PRIDE flag.

This is true of any church, and hopefully of any building for that matter. But when a PRIDE flag hangs outside of a church it says one very important thing to me... therein resides a Christian.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I'm sure there's plenty of made up stories out there.

No, I don't think the two ladies who told me their stories were lying.

As you know, most churches stay away from politics.

Do they all? Because in the election of 2016, the Southern Baptist church I was at had us get in little circles and say an insinuated Republican prayer at the end of service. Not that I'm Democrat, but I didn't like to be 'pushed' to pray in way that I thought was bit odd.

 

[ozso]

No, I don't think the two ladies who told me their stories were lying.

Well I wasn't there to hear it. But I know of people who went against the grain to point of being disruptive and were asked to leave, who give a very subjective account of what transpired.

Do they all?

No. That's why I wrote "most".

Because in the election of 2016, the Southern Baptist church I was at had us get in little circles and say an insinuated Republican prayer at the end of service. Not that I'm Democrat, but I didn't like to be 'pushed' to pray in way that I thought was bit odd.

I find that odd as well.

 

[ozso]

This is true of any church, and hopefully of any building for that matter. But when a PRIDE flag hangs outside of a church it says one very important thing to me... therein resides a Christian.

A Christian on your terms. I think there's probably a notable difference between what you say a Christian is, and what Christ and his apostles say a Christian is. Unfortunately there are Christians you have chosen to listen to non-christians, instead of listening to Christ and the apostles.