Is "JESUS" & hindu god "LORD KRISHNA" same?

[rahul_sharma]

Is jesus.. lord krishna?

Is "jesus" another name of "lord krishna"

it looks those who are worshipping jesus are actually worshipping hindu god:lord krishna".

1)jesus and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.
2)Both was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man.
3)Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.
4)for both adoptive human father was a carpenter.
5)A spirit or ghost was their actual father.
6)Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent.
7)Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star.
8)Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna's parents stayed in Mathura.
9) Both claimed: "I am the Resurrection."
10)Both referred to themselves having existed before their birth on earth.
11)Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine.
12)They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
13)Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured "all manner of diseases."
14)Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead.
15)Both selected disciples to spread his teachings.
16)Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners.
17)Both encountered a Gentile woman at a well.
18)Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies.
19)Both descended into Hell, and were resurrected. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven.
20)Jesus' and Krishna's mothers had similar names: Miriam (Mary) and Maia
21)Jesus' and Krishna's mothers were holy virgins.
All these points of there life history force us to believe that jesus is actually another name given to hindu god krishna....and our JESUS is actually hindu LORD KRISHNA.
and maybe bible was actually copied from hindu holly books with some changes because of large time gap between krishna (3000 B.C.) and date when bible was written.

so it means we all are "hindus"?

 

[Macrina]

Hmm...

I can see why this occurs to you. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I can tell you what orthodox Christian belief says and what I speculate might be a connection.

Christians believe in the uniqueness of Jesus, that the only way to God the Father is through him.

As for the similarities, I have often wondered about that sort of thing myself. Not just with Hinduism, but many world religions or ancient myths/folktales have similar themes (the Flood comes to mind). My theory is that God gave us some understanding and and the commonalities point us toward something that is basic and true.

With that said, I have to say that I hold to the orthodox Christian belief that God has only fully manifested himself to humanity in Jesus. I don't believe that I am a Hindu, but I believe that there are some elements of understanding that we share.

I don't know if I'm making myself very clear. This is a tough topic to communicate about in a chat forum, because I can't communicate that I am trying to be respectful while acknowledging our differences.

Macrina

 

[Macrina]

PS: One thing to consider is that the Hebrew Bible (the Christian Old Testament) points toward Jesus, predicting things about him. I don't think the things it says are present in Hinduism, so that element would be unique to this faith.

 

[rahul_sharma]

dear...but these similarities between gods of a religion 5000 years old and a religion 2000 years old cannt be avoided....so much similarities....not 1..not 2..but unlimited...we have to understand that there was a time diff. of 3000 years between lord krishna and when bible was written...still there are these huge similarities ...and little differences are acceptable because of this huge time difference.

 

[rahul_sharma]

also.... god is one.....u may call him krishna or jesus.....or allah..... different theories emerged at diff. times...with similarities said above....so a theory most oldest seems to be most pure....but god is not affected by all this...he only wants love and devotion within us....it doesnt matter weather we call him jesus instead of lord krishna or vice versa.

 

[Proud Hindu]

How true

Nice to have another follower of the Sanatan Dharma (Eternal Religion) here

 

[Macrina]

3)Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.

I wonder if you can tell me more about your "Trinity." I have heard of the Hindu Trinity before, but I don't know much about it. What is it? Who are its members and how are they related to one another? I'd like to compare it with my understanding of the Christian Trinity.

thanks,
Macrina

 

[Remus]

I posted a link in the other place that you posted this. So as not to repeat myself, I'll post a different link.
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/copycatwho2.html
About 2/3 of the way down, you'll find the Krishna part.

 

[Wayfarer]

Christianity is one of the many rehashes of famous lore.

 

[challenger]

I wonder if you can tell me more about your "Trinity." I have heard of the Hindu Trinity before, but I don't know much about it. What is it? Who are its members and how are they related to one another? I'd like to compare it with my understanding of the Christian Trinity.

thanks,
Macrina

From what I remember (I could be wrong)
Brahma, the creator
Vishnu, the preserver (I think Krishna was meant to be an avatar of Vishnu)
Shiva, the destroyer

 

[CrownCaster]

also.... god is one.....u may call him krishna or jesus.....or allah..... different theories emerged at diff. times...with similarities said above....so a theory most oldest seems to be most pure....but god is not affected by all this...he only wants love and devotion within us....it doesnt matter weather we call him jesus instead of lord krishna or vice versa.

That is a trick of the dark side. All gods are not the same. There is ONE God and that is Jesus Christ. All paths do not lead to God. All will get you to His judgement seat but only one will leave you in His presence and that path, that gate to God, is Jesus Christ the Son of the triune God.

 

[markie]

Hmm...

I can see why this occurs to you. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I can tell you what orthodox Christian belief says and what I speculate might be a connection.

Christians believe in the uniqueness of Jesus, that the only way to God the Father is through him.

As for the similarities, I have often wondered about that sort of thing myself. Not just with Hinduism, but many world religions or ancient myths/folktales have similar themes (the Flood comes to mind). My theory is that God gave us some understanding and and the commonalities point us toward something that is basic and true.

With that said, I have to say that I hold to the orthodox Christian belief that God has only fully manifested himself to humanity in Jesus. I don't believe that I am a Hindu, but I believe that there are some elements of understanding that we share.

I don't know if I'm making myself very clear. This is a tough topic to communicate about in a chat forum, because I can't communicate that I am trying to be respectful while acknowledging our differences.

Macrina

I think there are elements of Christianity in all religions.

 

[markie]

Is jesus.. lord krishna?

Is "jesus" another name of "lord krishna"

it looks those who are worshipping jesus are actually worshipping hindu god:lord krishna".

1)jesus and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.
2)Both was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man.
3)Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.
4)for both adoptive human father was a carpenter.
5)A spirit or ghost was their actual father.
6)Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent.
7)Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star.
8)Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna's parents stayed in Mathura.
9) Both claimed: "I am the Resurrection."
10)Both referred to themselves having existed before their birth on earth.
11)Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine.
12)They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
13)Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured "all manner of diseases."
14)Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead.
15)Both selected disciples to spread his teachings.
16)Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners.
17)Both encountered a Gentile woman at a well.
18)Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies.
19)Both descended into Hell, and were resurrected. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven.
20)Jesus' and Krishna's mothers had similar names: Miriam (Mary) and Maia
21)Jesus' and Krishna's mothers were holy virgins.
All these points of there life history force us to believe that jesus is actually another name given to hindu god krishna....and our JESUS is actually hindu LORD KRISHNA.
and maybe bible was actually copied from hindu holly books with some changes because of large time gap between krishna (3000 B.C.) and date when bible was written.

so it means we all are "hindus"?

You mentioned the Hindu God Krishna, is that where the Harare Krishna's come from?

 

[rahul_sharma]

challenger...no LORD KRISHNA was avtar of second trinity .....VISHNU not SHIVA

 

[rahul_sharma]

THESE SIMILARITES ARE NOT CHANCE but reamake of KRISHNA'S life story as JESUS.....also we have to understand there was a gap of 3000 years between LORD KRISHNA and date when bible was written.....it looks bible is based on hindu holly scriptuers and knowledge which travelled from india to other parts of the world in these 3000 years.

but it really doesnt matter to LORD KRISHNA... weather we call him krishna or jesus as long as there is love , devotion and purity is present within us.

 

[Proud Hindu]

hat is a trick of the dark side. All gods are not the same. There is ONE God and that is Jesus Christ. All paths do not lead to God. All will get you to His judgement seat but only one will leave you in His presence and that path, that gate to God, is Jesus Christ the Son of the triune God.

You bible thumpers make me laugh. You think you are so sophisticated, but you are like foolish children, caught up in your ridiculous fears and superstitions.

That is a trick of the dark side

*Hums the Star Wars theme song*

 

[Arthra]

Baha'is recognize both the Lord Jesus and Bhagaven Shri Krishna as Manifestaions of God... If you read the Bhagavad Gita and the Gospel of John the Bhakti or devotional aspects of these scriptures, you will be struck by the similarities.

Baha'is also believe the Kalkin Avatara has returned in Baha'u'llah.

- Art

 

[Macrina]

You bible thumpers make me laugh. ... your ridiculous fears and superstitions.

Proud Hindu,

I am trying to treat your beliefs with respect and participate in an informative discussion. Please do not mock my beliefs, as I do not mock yours.

Thank you,

Macrina

 

[peaceful soul]

You bible thumpers make me laugh. You think you are so sophisticated, but you are like foolish children, caught up in your ridiculous fears and superstitions.



*Hums the Star Wars theme song*

We are no worse than you when it come to our beliefs. We could call you a Hindu thumper. You do not understand that if the Bible is our authority, we are going to use it in our lives completely if we are serious about it.

We evidently understand somethings that you do not about the spiritual realm. We know that God is not what we choose to make god to be. We have a whole world of people who do just that and chase religions to that end. Religions are selfish acts to find God. They serve self - not God. Christianity, in its true form, seeks to serve God - not ourselves. This is a big difference. In Christianity, spirituality is not the goal to seek; it is to worship God because He is our creator and we owe our creator that devotion.

Have you ever thought that those who had religions before Hinduism came along would be saying the same thing about your beliefs? If Jesus is God, then He could not have borrowed from anyone. That is His claim per Bible.

The Bible states that He was from the beginning. Let's suppose that Krishna and Christ were the same. How would you explain their differences? Similarities do not make two entities the same. Their differences have to also be weighed; otherwise one gets a distorted view of the comparison to begin with.

 

[Faith In God]

One God cannot exhibit different (esp contradictory) characteristics.

Christianity and Hinduism are quite different in many ways. There are some similarities in everything, but that does not make them same, esp when there are definate contradictions in doctrine (ie Christianity and Islam)