Is it wrong to eat shrimp?

[Banana Phone]

I copied this from another forum, and I thought it was interesting because I've never heard of it before.

"Leviticus 11:9-12 and Deuteronomy 14:9-10 clearly say that shrimp, crab, lobster, clams, and mussels are forbidden. What do you think?

Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:9-10 says:
9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you. "

 

[HEMDA]

I copied this from another forum, and I thought it was interesting because I've never heard of it before.

"Leviticus 11:9-12 and Deuteronomy 14:9-10 clearly say that shrimp, crab, lobster, clams, and mussels are forbidden. What do you think?

Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:9-10 says:
9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you. "

I am jewish so i have always live by the rules which are refered to as being kosher. But i don't think you go to hell! if you eat them. I just consider it more of a challenge to live the way he wanted us to. So many diseases today who knows where they all come from. They didn't have so many back then and the did as they were instructed. But then if we were truly obeidient we would not eat all that is bad for us. And that might eliminate half the food we eat lol. Like chocalate caffine etc etc. Just my lil 0.02 worth.

G-d BLESS YA"LL

 

[silwJC7]

supposedly it's not appropriate to eat shrimp. It says in the Old Testament to not eat the sea bottom-dwellers and all that. If you look at it Shrimp has high cholesterol content. I mean the Bible warned us not to eat it, but if we choose to then, we have to accept the fact that sooner or later we might get sick due to the things that we eat. Not just shrimp but other types of food as well that can harm the body. This is only what I think

 

[Banana Phone]

I think maybe this calls on a broader question: is there anything in the Bible that doesn't necessarily apply today?

 

[HEMDA]

: is there anything in the Bible that doesn't necessarily apply today?

Well LOL i think there is!! That is what it is the law he handed down. He never specified that in 2,000 to 3,000 that it would all of a sudden not apply. He knew what was good for our bodies. He knew we all including self would desire things that were not good for the body. So therefore it is up to us to obey or not obey.


JUST YOUR ORDINARY $0.02 WORTH

 

[jenptcfan]

Certain seafood like shellfish and shrimp was forbidden...as was pork. They were considered "unclean". Lots of things were considered forbidden--mixing dairy products with meat (Hassidic Jews have two separate kitchens in their house so that the two products don't come in contact with one another), wearing clothes made of two different kinds of fabric, a menstrating woman and anything she touched was considered unclean.

The way I see it is that they were trying to stay "clean" so that they could be close to God (generally). Just like offering sacrifices to please God. Then Jesus came and fulfilled the law and we don't have to do these things to please God anymore. He offered the final sacrifice and allowed us to have a personal relationship with him. Therefore there are certain things that don't apply anymore.

 

[jenptcfan]

But on a more personal note: shrimp are gross, why would anyone eat them on purpose?

 

[gollus]

Romans 14:14 "As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean."
There are a few other scriptures relating to this, but I think this one clears it up pretty well.
Edit: Actually here is the one I was looking for
Mark 7:14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' "

 

[HEMDA]

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The way I see it is that they were trying to stay "clean" so that they could be close to God (generally). Just like offering sacrifices to please God. Then Jesus came and fulfilled the law and we don't have to do these things to please God anymore. He offered the final sacrifice and allowed us to have a personal relationship with him. Therefore there are certain things that don't apply anymore.

I agree on most of this But ( there is always a but LOL) to say we don't have to do them anymore is an opinion! Yes we are now given the gift of a relationship with him. But he still commands us to take care of our temple (meaning our bodies). And therefore eating things that are not good for us would be wrong.

I have never tried shrimp looks nasty!

But i guess technically i have eaten pork. Cause some restraunts cook in LARD! which is pork fat oh well!!! That is why i am considered one of those non kosher Jews LOL.


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[HEMDA]

Romans 14:14 "As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean."
There are a few other scriptures relating to this, but I think this one clears it up pretty well.
Edit: Actually here is the one I was looking for
Mark 7:14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' "

OK OK You've convinced me maybe i am looking from the wrong side of the table. I just recently read Mark 7:14 i thought he was talking about what you say. Meaning just because someone says your a crapper head dosen't mean you are. But if you say and do things like a crapper head then you would be one(unclean) But i am new at this stuff so i am not sure.


JUST YOUR ORDINARY $0.02 WORTH G-D BLESS YA'LL

 

[Spicy McHaggis]

But on a more personal note: shrimp are gross, why would anyone eat them on purpose?

Don't you blasphemy now!!!

 

[jenptcfan]

I agree on most of this But ( there is always a but LOL) to say we don't have to do them anymore is an opinion! Yes we are now given the gift of a relationship with him. But he still commands us to take care of our temple (meaning our bodies). And therefore eating things that are not good for us would be wrong.

I have never tried shrimp looks nasty!

But i guess technically i have eaten pork. Cause some restraunts cook in LARD! which is pork fat oh well!!! That is why i am considered one of those non kosher Jews LOL.


JUST YOUR ORDINARY $0.02 WORTH

Certainly 99% of everything that is said at CF should be considered as opinion (unless backed up by scripture).

However, since the pork/shellfish issue was a cleanliness thing and not a "body as a temple" thing, I consider them two different issues.

An occasional slice of bacon for breakfast isn't bad for your health. Now, if you eat a whole package of bacon every day, that would be a "body as a temple" issue because you're engaging in gluttony and probably clogging up your arteries. Same thing could be said of eating too much junk food. A little bit won't harm you, but a lot of junk food will cause health problems.

The verses already posted by Gollus show that the "unclean" foods from the OT are not to considered unclean anymore (if Jesus himself said so, I believe it's more than opinion).

That's not meant to start a debate, and I hope you don't take my tone as anything more or less than friendly. I respect your views on the topic and wanted to expound on my views as well.

God bless,
J

 

[jenptcfan]

Don't you blasphemy now!!!

lol. OK, reverend Iklepac!

 

[Justin04]

I've always thought that you werent suppose to eat them but dont really pay attention to every letter of every little thing. Such as the speed limit, in all reality isnt that just as bad as spitting in somebodys face, lying, cheating, stealing? I think on a certain level it is. I've never gotten a speeding ticket and for the most part I'm a VERY slow driver cause I dont really pay attention when I drive, it was just an example.

Shrimp,Catfish,Lobster,Halibut, theres a huge number of things we eat all the time that if we were to study every last letter we might give up. I think for the most part it probably does apply for today.

 

[Justin04]

I do not think that you will go to hell for it, maybe just get to heaven sooner, if the bible was rewritten today I'm betting there would be a lot more then just shrimp mentoined that are foods we should generally stay away from.

Edit- as a side note I had some really awesome shrimp last week, I very rarley eat shrimp but it was at a friends house, didnt wanna be rude, besides it was bomb

 

[HEMDA]

 

[Ginsu]

Good points all. Just going over, things that were unclean were not because God hated shrimp, they just aren't good for human consumption. Well i read this topic this morning, I guess you all beat me to it.

 

[Banana Phone]

I think we've had some pretty good dialogue here on this... I was scared at first 'cuz i do love those shrimp...

Now on a more serious side, I suppose, how do we determine which teaching of the Bible no longer apply to us today? I'm not sure if this is the right place to start this discussion as I'm new here, but if it isn't could someone direct me in the right section? Thanks!

 

[micaela]

Ok, everyone flick to Galations.

Here, (a cool book that you should read right through for some great teaching), Paul calls the Galations FOOLISH for turning back to the law which meant a FALSE gospel Galations 1:6, when it is clear that Jesus came to fulfil the law (meaning that it no longer applied) Galations 3:22.

The law was established by Moses 430 years after God made his covenant with Abraham that all nations would be blessed through him and his descendents would number the stars etc. The law was put in place because of the sins of the Israelites, until such a time that Jesus could come and end it Galations 3:19.

The law does not require faith to complete the tasks at hand, it requires obedience. Righteousness is not gained by fulfilling the law Galations 2:21.

So, REST EASY and enjoy eating seafood. Christ has redeemed us, and lives in us! We no longer need to follow the law of Moses to be justified, saved or become righteous in God's eyes. Not to say that some of the laws make a lot of common sense, but....know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. Galations 2:16

 

[Spicy McHaggis]

lol. OK, reverend Iklepac!

Hey, I never went through with it remember?!