Is it okay to to have oral sex before marriage?

[drstevej]

Great now I can't use the restroom any more

Wouldn't bother me.

 

[pgp_protector]

Wouldn't bother me.

It might after a day or two of not expelling your waste

 

[drstevej]

3 billion! REPS now, PgP

 

[cowboysfan1970]

Sex is probably one of if not the most controversial thing to talk about. A lot of people have different ideas about what is and isn't OK. Personally I think that any sex outside of marriage is wrong. There are also those that think oral is wrong inside of marriage too.

 

[Zaac]

I ask this on behalf of a friend from Messenger.

Consider this persuasive argument:
http://www.sexinchrist.com/oralsex.html

What do you think?

Fornication is fornication. Gussying it up and putting a pretty bow on it doesn't magically transform it from fornication.

God's Word really isn't as complicated as we attempt to make it. It's when we start looking for angles to justify sin that it becomes convoluted for us...not for God.

 

[Zebra1552]

No, Jer, it is wrong. Period. Start citing the statistics of people who have sex before marriage and their chances of marrying or continuing the relationship for very long.

 

[manchambo]

It is pretty unlikely that a couple having oral sex would resist normal sex as well, and the bible tells a lot about avoiding lusts, so even if it would be OK, then it would be really not clever to do that.

And I agree that it sounds like a bad joke.

And when it comes to oral sex in general I really don't understand how anyone enjoy it, married or unmarried. I don't know how it is like with guys, but girls have a really low PH (sour) "down there" to prevent bacterias. But if you would enjoy drinking a glass of vinegar, then it is probably great. Sorry for the information, but maybe it helps someone.

This is one of the strangest reasons I've ever heard suggested not to have oral sex. It tastes absolutely nothing like vinegar.

The article is rubbish of course.

 

[cowboysfan1970]

Vinegar? Are you serious? I've never heard anyone else say that.

 

[chingchang]

Would ya do it if Jesus were standing in the room watching?


He is

I'd thank him for the wonderful gift of sex. The fact that this question was posed assumes that premartial sex is a sin...which it is not. It may be an unwise choice to engage in prepartial sex because of some of the potential consequences...but it certainly IS NOT a sin. If it were a sin...the Bible would most certainly tell us so (see Leviticus 18 and 20). In fact...the best example of premarital sex we have is found in a hypothetical and was used to teach an ethic...

Exodus 22:16-17
16 "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. 17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.

If you've studied the OT...then you know that any sin had to be atoned for...a sarafice of some kind would need to be made. In this case a man has sex with a virgin and there is no requirement for sacrafice to "right-the-wrong". This is a property issue and the man infringed on the Father's property (his virgin daughter) and must make it right by paying the Father. Simple as that. If premarital sex was a sin...God would have legislated against that act specifically. He probably would have said "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must bring a perfect oxen to be sacrificed in the temple, then sleep outside the camp for 40 days before reentering". This is not hard to understand. But he has not legislated against premarital sex. The example in Exodus 22 relates his attitude toward premarital sex...and that is "if you do it...be prepared to marry her". No sin there.

Hugs,
chingchang

 

[drstevej]

1 Cor 7:9
But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

 

[chingchang]

1 Cor 7:9
But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Yes...like I said...waiting for marriage is the wise decision. Note that Paul instructed that it is "BETTER to marrry". He didn't say "you're going to hell if you engage in a premarital sex act". He also didn't say "premarital sex acts are sinful". It is a shame that "believers" feel the need to step in and say something on behalf of God that God himself has not said. Let us not add one thing to scripture and instead live in the freedom that Jesus' blood bought for us!

Hugs,
chingchang

 

[drstevej]

Yes...like I said...waiting for marriage is the wise decision. Note that Paul instructed that it is "BETTER to marrry". He didn't say "you're going to hell if you engage in a premarital sex act". He also didn't say "premarital sex acts are sinful". It is a shame that "believers" feel the need to step in and say something on behalf of God that God himself has not said. Let us not add one thing to scripture and instead live in the freedom that Jesus' blood bought for us!

Hugs,
chingchang

So rejecting wisdom is not sinful?

 

[chingchang]

So rejecting wisdom is not sinful?

Are you kidding? Do you know what sin is?

chingchang

 

[chingchang]

1 John 3:4
Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.

Paul didn't establish the law. The law was established by God and revealed to us in the OT. Jesus summed-up the law for us as documented in the NT. In order for premarital sex acts to be sinful...they would have to violate God's law. So I challenge you to find the law that forbids premarital sexual relations.

East to understand...no flaming-hoops to jump through.

chingchang

 

[drstevej]

Are you kidding? Do you know what sin is?

chingchang

No I am not kidding. Yes I do know what sin is: anything contrary to the character or commands of God.

"Flee youthful lust."

 

[chingchang]

No I am not kidding. Yes I do know what sin is: anything contrary to the character or commands of God.

"Flee youthful lust."

You'll need to post some scripture to back up your definition of sin.

 

[drstevej]

1 John 3:4
Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.

Paul didn't establish the law. The law was established by God and revealed to us in the OT. Jesus summed-up the law for us as documented in the NT. In order for premarital sex acts to be sinful...they would have to violate God's law. So I challenge you to find the law that forbids premarital sexual relations.

East to understand...no flaming-hoops to jump through.

chingchang

The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτί&#945 is usually translated as sin in the New Testament. In Classical Greek, it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target"

 

[drstevej]

You'll need to post some scripture to back up your definition of sin.

See ^^^

Do you know greek and hebrew?

 

[chingchang]

The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτί&#945 is usually translated as sin in the New Testament. In Classical Greek, it means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target"

Fine...then who or what establishes the mark/target to be missed? God does. And he has not established a mark/target when it comes to premarital sexual acts.

chingchang

 

[drstevej]

Fine...then who or what establishes the mark/target to be missed? God does. And he has not established a mark/target when it comes to premarital sexual acts.

chingchang

You just said it was not wise, by what standard do you declare that?

BTW, have you practiced premarital sex???
That is, do you bring in a bias and a need to justify your actions?