is it ok to have sex with my girl friend

[WinBySurrender]

If you're in love with someone and want to have sex with him/her, then go for it.

Sure, if you want to be guilty of sin.

 

[William II]

Sure, if you want to be guilty of sin.

Did YOU wait till you were married to have sex?

 

[WinBySurrender]

Did YOU wait till you were married to have sex?

No. That doesn't mean I was right in doing so. This question, by the way, is akin to "When did you stop beating your wife?" Utter nonsense, in other words.

 

[tyronem]

Which one?

That pre-marital sex is ok

 

[William II]

No. That doesn't mean I was right in doing so. This question, by the way, is akin to "When did you stop beating your wife?" Utter nonsense, in other words.

Do as I say, not as I do, etc.

I see. People have got to learn and make their own mistakes.

 

[WinBySurrender]

Do as I say, not as I do, etc.

There's nothing wrong with that, actually. It has been used in a negative connotation for so long people forget the validity of it. Just because I was young and stupid doesn't mean my kids had to be young and stupid too. In fact, they weren't. They both signed the True Love Waits pledge in junior high, and both presented their chastity rings to their spouses on their wedding days.

People have got to learn and make their own mistakes.

Unless they're willing to learn from the mistakes of others.

 

[MasterpieceMesias]

Mesias, how do you evaluate the discussion so far?

The same bullcrap discussion involving pre-marital sex and whether or not it's justified legitimately or not. I've heard practically all of these arguments for both sides of the coin already and, surprise (sarcasm), most think that you have to be married by the state and ceremony to have sexual relations with someone. In the end of this thread, whenever that'll be, nothing will be learned and nothing will be resolved.

 

[MasterpieceMesias]

Seriously, this thread is utterly useless. Everyone should just stop arguing about sex all the damn time, geez guys. The same arguments are getting uselessly thrown around akin to using a 3 week old corpse to fight someone with. Just agree to disagree and move on. Like I said, nothing is being gained here by arguing the same argument that's been going on as long as the Bible's existence I'm sure. What makes any of you think that yoi'll resolve anything by doing this again?

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

Just because I was young and stupid doesn't mean my kids had to be young and stupid too.

Unless they're willing to learn from the mistakes of others.

Agreed.

 

[William II]

There's nothing wrong with that, actually. It has been used in a negative connotation for so long people forget the validity of it. Just because I was young and stupid doesn't mean my kids had to be young and stupid too. In fact, they weren't. They both signed the True Love Waits pledge in junior high, and both presented their chastity rings to their spouses on their wedding days.Unless they're willing to learn from the mistakes of others.

There's nothing wrong with being a hypocrite? Lol.

There IS something wrong with that. How can one be expected to be taken seriously if they engage in rampant hypocrisy? It utterly destroys your credibility.

Sure, advice is fine. I'm more than happy to learn from the mistakes of others...but not when accompanied with threats and postulated by someone who's done the EXACT same thing.

Do you see what I'm saying?

 

[dayhiker]

So what did you make of the history of the meaning of porneia that I posted?
How do you evaluate that compared to what others say the word means?

The same bullcrap discussion involving pre-marital sex and whether or not it's justified legitimately or not. I've heard practically all of these arguments for both sides of the coin already and, surprise (sarcasm), most think that you have to be married by the state and ceremony to have sexual relations with someone. In the end of this thread, whenever that'll be, nothing will be learned and nothing will be resolved.

 

[MasterpieceMesias]

So what did you make of the history of the meaning of porneia that I posted?
How do you evaluate that compared to what others say the word means?

I'm not disagreeing with you at all on its meaning and so forth; honestly it doesn't matter if you're right or not because at the end of the day unfortunately people are going to believe what they're going to believe whether it be legit or not. Considering the popular and misinterpreted beliefs I've encountered over the years from 'Christians' I have to say that unfortunately when it comes to sexuality nobody has everything 100% correct, there's always something that somebody got wrong or misinterpreted. That isn't the case for a lot of things but when it comes down to sex it is. I agree with dayhiker on this one but at the same time unfortunately it won't convince everyone. Doesn't mean never to try at some points but when it comes down to it at some point people just won't listen no matter how hard you try. I myself am a firm believer in trying to explain logic and dig down deep into things because you can't take everything at face value, but again, sometimes people can't be coerced even by the most infallible logic and facts. So, yeah. . .
/long drawn out response.

 

[dayhiker]

I certainly understand what your saying.

 

[JoeyArnold]

Instead of asking what we can get away with we are rather to ask what is best.

 

[dayhiker]

So is what is best for you also best for me?

I've meet people who have clearly stated what is best for them and then tried is and it didn't work out as even good for me.

 

[Humble Pie]

Well scripture says "fornicators" won't be in the kingdom of heaven so getting married is important.

 

[William II]

Well scripture says "fornicators" won't be in the kingdom of heaven so getting married is important.

Looks like Heaven will be pretty empty then.

 

[dayhiker]

The kingdom of God is love, joy and peace.

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

The kingdom of God is love, joy and peace.

Question - is all that is Love, reflective of God?

 

[dayhiker]

God is love. So I would say yes. We love God because He 1st loved us.

feeling I've just been set up! LOL