Is it a sin to admire and longingly look at and check out (for a man) a woman's beauty if...

[John Davidson]

Is it a sin to admire and longingly look at and check out (for a man) a woman's beauty, even her "parts" if your not "lusting" in your heart or in your "member" for her...?

Probably can create an opening for the temptation to lust, so may not be a good idea... But, admiring without lust a woman's glorious beauty, all her part's, not just T & A, but her hair, the way it's done, it's color, her eyes, her face, her shape and her form, her curves, her legs, wasn't woman created by God to admire?

Probably not a good idea in some settings, like church, but what about, at the beach, especially if your single... Not the feeling of lust, and maybe not even desire for, but simply admiration...

Some women like this, some do not, I can understand that they do not just and only want to be seen as beautiful for only the physical, but that is all that is initially presented to you, and there has to be some physical attraction, in the beginning especially when you first meet someone, right, then, only after that, can you figure out if your attracted to them, for other kinds of beauty...

Comments?

Help?

I don't know if I should do this at all, or not? But, I am single, is it not right for me to look for a potential mate? I have to initially physically attracted before I can discover if there is even more than that...

God Bless!

If the woman is married it would be a sin to admire her.

This would be considered coveting another mans wife.

 

[Aldebaran]

If the woman is married it would be a sin to admire her.

This would be considered coveting another mans wife.

I've heard coveting something means to develop an inclination to acquire something that is not yours. For example, if you covet your neighbor's car, you would have feelings of resentment toward your neighbor ("Why should he have a car like that when I can't even pay my mortgage?"), and maybe even looking for ways to vandalize his car, or even to steal it because you feel you deserve to have it more than he does. At the same time, you could look admiringly at your neighbor's car and like it so much that you go out and buy one just like it. That would be called copying rather then coveting.

 

[1213]

Is it a sin to admire and longingly look at and check out (for a man) a woman's beauty, even her "parts" if your not "lusting" in your heart or in your "member" for her...?

Probably can create an opening for the temptation to lust, so may not be a good idea... But, admiring without lust a woman's glorious beauty, all her part's, not just T & A, but her hair, the way it's done, it's color, her eyes, her face, her shape and her form, her curves, her legs, wasn't woman created by God to admire?
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Admiring doesn’t seem to be forbidden in the Bible. But it is good to understand that some don’t like to be admired. And also it can be risky, because it may lead to desire for something that you shouldn’t desire.

 

[Neogaia777]

Admiring doesn’t seem to be forbidden in the Bible. But it is good to understand that some don’t like to be admired. And also it can be risky, because it may lead to desire for something that you shouldn’t desire.

First off, I thank all of you for your replies...

I admit, It can be risky, especially when it turns into lust or becomes sexual in nature, like picturing her naked or thinking about that or what you might do with her in the sack, for example, or if it turns into covetous desire for her, but, if it doesn't and it's not, but is only an admiration of beauty, much like you'd look at a piece of "art" that you thought was very beautiful and very well done by it's creator, but in this case, a wonderful, beautiful, and glorious work of art of God, in the case of a wonderful work of art, you might take the time to examine the details, say, a painting, looking at the colors in every corner and part of it, the detail of the brushstrokes, ect...

I'll admit, no one should look at another man's wife this way, or even a woman who is in the company of another a man, because that could be his wife, and you don't know, so, you shouldn't, also very inappropriate in a lot of settings where it would be inappropriate, in fact, I'd say, if you can't view it in this way (above) or have a certain amount of control with it, then don't do it at all... And, that this would be an important indicator that you shouldn't... But, if you can, I'd say there isn't anything wrong with simply "admiring" the opposite of sex, if that is all it is, in an appropriate avenue or setting to do so, when say, at the beach, admiring a woman who is alone, or with a group of women, that are not in the company of men...

God Bless!

 

[CCHIPSS]

Oh how I love yeah if women didn't wear XYZ....

Actually if it was the case the clothing was short, sexy or showing off part of the body, only brought about the on coming of stares and creepiness, then it would be amused that it was the clothing fault and that men couldn't help themselves. Sadly this isn't true because women still get stares, felt up, creeps, chatted up, even when fully covered up. Yeah that issue is out of the window. Men aren't animals, they have brains and feeling and shockingly can turn off these feeling.. Because do you check out a female relative like your sister, or mom if she wear a bikini... and you know it's more than 2 seconds... ooohhhh how we know its you thinking you have the right over my body, to the right to stare at me.

Also to note to men, I am not yours to be touched, followed, make unwanted comments towards me. I do not wish for you to stare at me (Actually this happened a few weeks ago the man stopped and stared and then followed me - his head and eyes, as I walked away down the street) and i was WEARING JEANS and a T-SHIRT, you don't have the right to feel the right to chat me up, you do not have the right to feel that I should dress, drink or act anyway that you think a woman should act.

Men has control to not stare at a woman or follow her up like a creep. Yes creeps are creeps. However men has no control for the first 1-2 seconds! If a lady wears a mini skirt, any men would look at that skirt for 1-2 seconds. This happens subconsciously and we honestly cannot help it.

After that their consciousness kicks in, and the man can decide to either be a creep or be a gentleman. And if the man decides to be a creep, then yes it is his fault.

Once again I am not against ladies wearing short skirts or other revealing clothing. Ladies are free to wear whatever they want. All I (and other gentlemen) ask is that the ladies gives the men the benefit of doubt when they only look at your skirt for 1-2 seconds. We can't help it so that doesn't make us creeps.

 

[MotherFirefly]

It seems unhealthy to me to look at things in such a serious manner..
I love the human body, regardless of sex, and can appreciate anyone who makes an effort to keep themselves presentable.

 

[John Davidson]

I've heard coveting something means to develop an inclination to acquire something that is not yours. For example, if you covet your neighbor's car, you would have feelings of resentment toward your neighbor ("Why should he have a car like that when I can't even pay my mortgage?"), and maybe even looking for ways to vandalize his car, or even to steal it because you feel you deserve to have it more than he does. At the same time, you could look admiringly at your neighbor's car and like it so much that you go out and buy one just like it. That would be called copying rather then coveting.

Coveting is desiring something that is not yours.

So if you see your neighbors wife and admire her, wishing she was yours, that is coveting.

 

[Constantine the Sinner]

Honestly that's a big part of why I do dress a little more skimpily than most, I think we really should be past the female body being taboo. If everyone just wore whatever they wanted like a guy does just because they want to, overtime it's desexualized.

Guys would not walk around in tight booty-shorts or skirts. They will sometimes walk around in something sleeveless or with a low collar, but that's generally seen as super tacky.

 

[TheGirlOnFire]

Men has control to not stare at a woman or follow her up like a creep. Yes creeps are creeps. However men has no control for the first 1-2 seconds! If a lady wears a mini skirt, any men would look at that skirt for 1-2 seconds. This happens subconsciously and we honestly cannot help it.

After that their consciousness kicks in, and the man can decide to either be a creep or be a gentleman. And if the man decides to be a creep, then yes it is his fault.

Once again I am not against ladies wearing short skirts or other revealing clothing. Ladies are free to wear whatever they want. All I (and other gentlemen) ask is that the ladies gives the men the benefit of doubt when they only look at your skirt for 1-2 seconds. We can't help it so that doesn't make us creeps.

*SIGH* we all look at people 1-2 second, male, female even DOGS

Are you saying you would LOOK at your daughter if she wore mini-skirt ? What about under 16 ? Since what you are saying is that you can not help it ?

 

[Radrook]

Unto itself, I would say no. However, be discreet about it so as not to make the woman feel awkward.

I recently complimented a woman on her beauty and it was not based on lust but simply a compliment of: "Have the angels come down from heaven?"indicating that I considered her angelic looking and it was not taken kindly by her husband. In fact, now I am not welcomed at their fruit and baked goods stand. Not a good outcome.

 

[Radrook]

If the woman is married keep the opinion to yourself. It will cause jealousy and will be perceived as an affront to the husband regardless of how innocent you imagine yourself to sound or look. It will all be interpreted as a cunningly contrived come-on.

 

[timewerx]

Are you saying you would LOOK at your daughter if she wore mini-skirt ? What about under 16 ? Since what you are saying is that you can not help it ?

I would look at her like this

No miniskirts until the age of thirty!

 

[blackribbon]

"and longingly look".... what are you longing for?

 

[CCHIPSS]

*SIGH* we all look at people 1-2 second, male, female even DOGS

Are you saying you would LOOK at your daughter if she wore mini-skirt ? What about under 16 ? Since what you are saying is that you can not help it ?

Let's say I am meeting up with my sister. I was bored looking around. Suddenly I see a lady coming with a mini skirt. I would look at her legs for 2 seconds before looking at her face. Then I realize that is actually my sister.

Am I a creep for doing the above?

Now if I keep staring at my sister's legs, I would indeed be a creep. But if I stop once I realize what is going on, I don't think I was a creep.

 

[MehGuy]

You're over-thinking this way too much. Lol.

 

[blackribbon]

Let's say I am meeting up with my sister. I was bored looking around. Suddenly I see a lady coming with a mini skirt. I would look at her legs for 2 seconds before looking at her face. Then I realize that is actually my sister.

Am I a creep for doing the above?

Now if I keep staring at my sister's legs, I would indeed be a creep. But if I stop once I realize what is going on, I don't think I was a creep.

So it matters WHOSE legs you are looking at? What if the stranger sitting next to you kept looking at her legs and thinking "longing" thoughts about her, is that okay?

 

[Neogaia777]

"and longingly look".... what are you longing for?

Without being able to get to know a woman's "inner beauty", for this "actually does" mean much "more" to me, and is what I am truly "longing for" most in a woman, but, first impressions, "longingly looking at" her "physical beauty"... standing in "admiration" and "awe" of her entire physical form, as a whole, first... Then, the details... Her hair and it's shape, length, color and style, her skin tone and color, any jewelry that she might decorate and accentuate herself with, her face, her eyes, her body shape, that is, her "curves" (I like a lot of curves in a woman's physical form and shape in just the right places), her legs, her shoulder's and arms, and yes, probably her chest or boobs, if only for a quick glance... Also, what she is wearing that may be pretty or beautiful, I like summer sun dresses on a beautiful woman, and, last but not least, the way she "carries" herself, I like "graceful" women, who carry themselves "gracefully" almost as if their "floating on air" kind of walk, basically, taking the time to "longingly look at" that is "admire" and be in "awe" of "all" of her, in all of her glory, essentially...

God Bless!

 

[Radrook]

Physical attraction between the opposite sexes is natural. God didn't have to make us that way since he could have made us oblivious to each other and when procreation time was needed we could do like the amoebas.

 

[Neogaia777]

Physical attraction between the opposite sexes is natural. God didn't have to make us that way since he could have made us oblivious to each other and when procreation time was needed we could do like the amoebas.

Do like the amoebas? What do you mean? Could you please explain, please? I'm afraid I don't know much about amoebas?

God Bless!

 

[Servant68]

I recently complimented a woman on her beauty and it was not based on lust but simply a compliment of: "Have the angels come down from heaven?"indicating that I considered her angelic looking and it was not taken kindly by her husband. In fact, now I am not welcomed at their fruit and baked goods stand. Not a good outcome.

If the woman and her husband have now banned you from their place of business, which is apparently a road side fruit stand, then you have not only exceeded all standards of decency among normal people, but went straight for the status of "potential serial killer" in your level of creepiness. Congratulations.

My job is to interact with hundreds of people at my place of business while assessing them for being either potential threats or sources of information. Meaning I have to walk a fine line between being friendly and being suspicious of everyone. Whenever a female I come in contact with changes their hairstyle or gets a haircut, I make a verbal note of it in a way that conveys a positive message that makes the woman feel good about themselves without the impression that I would like to wear them as a skin suit.

Earlier this week I noticed an attractive married woman had gone to a shorter, edgier hair style and colored it darker. That could mean she is feeling unappreciated at home and wanted a bolder, sexier style. Or it could mean that her relationship with her husband was recently strengthened and the more confident cut was an indication that she was becoming more secure in her relationship. My comment to her was; "Shelby, I love your new hair style. That color really accentuates your green eyes. Good job!" All the while smiling and then giving her a thumbs up.

She blushed, smiled, and thanked me. She felt good about her appearance and didn't think I was hitting on her. Her self-confidence was boosted and if her husband was within earshot, he would not have gotten the impression that I was lusting after his wife, which I wasn't.