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In landmark ruling, UK's top court says legal definition of woman refers to biological sex

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LONDON, April 16 (Reuters) - Britain's highest court ruled on Wednesday that only biological and not trans women meet the definition of a woman under equality laws, a landmark decision greeted with concern by trans supporters but welcomed by the government as bringing clarity.

The decision confirms that single-sex services for women such as refuges, hospital wards and sports can exclude trans women, clearing up legal ambiguity.
 

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this is wonderful in theory. But what about those few people who are intersex?

Are they allowed to participate in sports?
If they are not a biological woman i would guess they would not be allowed to.participare in a biological woman's sport.
 
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This is another important ruling. Being a woman is an immutable characteristic. It is not something that changes depending on how you feel. Being transgender is not immutable. It's really interesting it came out of the UK.

It's like so many of us have been saying all along. Womens spaces were based upon sex. An immutable characteristic of sex.

It was not based upon a genetic defect.
 

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this is wonderful in theory. But what about those few people who are intersex?

Are they allowed to participate in sports?
Sure they can participate in men's sports.
 
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LONDON, April 16 (Reuters) - Britain's highest court ruled on Wednesday that only biological and not trans women meet the definition of a woman under equality laws, a landmark decision greeted with concern by trans supporters but welcomed by the government as bringing clarity.

The decision confirms that single-sex services for women such as refuges, hospital wards and sports can exclude trans women, clearing up legal ambiguity.
Good! It's common sense.

Women are women, men are men.

Feelings are irrelevant.

:)
 
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LONDON, April 16 (Reuters) - Britain's highest court ruled on Wednesday that only biological and not trans women meet the definition of a woman under equality laws, a landmark decision greeted with concern by trans supporters but welcomed by the government as bringing clarity.

The decision confirms that single-sex services for women such as refuges, hospital wards and sports can exclude trans women, clearing up legal ambiguity.

Took a while for common sense to prevail here. The next challenge is getting woke institutions like the NHS to abide by the ruling.
 
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this is wonderful in theory. But what about those few people who are intersex?

Are they allowed to participate in sports?
Typically, for intersex people, a sex is assigned at birth based on what are perceived to be the dominant set of physical characteristics.

Per the NIH:
In most cases, someone born intersex will appear to be either male or female in a way that seems typical to others. Their intersex traits might be internal, chromosomal, or hormonal, and often aren't visible at all. Many intersex people grow up without even knowing they’re intersex until something prompts medical testing—like fertility issues or genetic screenings.


Intersex (which is a medical condition/anomaly) people have been victims of broader culture narratives surrounding the transgender subject.

Trans-advocates have attempted to bring them into their group as a sort of "ace in the hole" for debates.

The one side's position is to highlight the binary nature of human beings (as mammals) in regards to the transgender topic.

The trans-advocates will often use the "Well, what about intersex people?" as a rebuttal.

....when in reality, the two have nothing to do with each other.


Trans advocates (who are advocating for a broad redefining of centuries old social norms and cultural standards) bringing up "what about intersex people? They were born that way" as justification for all of the things they want is reminiscent to when early 2000's marijuana advocates used to always bring up "Well, what about cancer patients, it's good for giving them an appetite" when everyone knew full well that wasn't their primary objective or concern, that was just their "noble-sounding" rhetorical device used to try to further what their actual mission was, which was legalizing it so adults can choose to use it.

(which, for the record, I was in favor of the legalization of marijuana, but it was a poor-taste disingenuous approach for some advocates to try to achieve their actual aims off the backs of cancer patients)
 
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