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Illegal Immigrant Gang Member from Honduras Kidnaps Texas Woman: Police Reveal Chilling Plot to Sell Her Organs or Force Her Into Prostitution

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A 35-year-old Honduran national, identified as Eduardo Javier Ordonez Godoy, has been arrested following the abduction of a 22-year-old woman in Haltom City, Texas.
The incident occurred on Tuesday, December 24, 2024, when the victim was walking to her vehicle at the Acacia Apartments around 4:45 a.m., WFAA reported.
According to police reports, Godoy, who was previously deported back to Honduras for a similar crime, was armed and masked when he forced the woman into her car at gunpoint.

86 years old. Joe Biden and the rest of the elites are protected and have unleashed violent criminals upon the populace.
 

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Death penalty.

There's no point in even trying to keep these people alive. They are irredeemable to society and can't ever be freed from prison.

I would just go with automatic death penalty for these.
 
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Your OP is from the other story. However, the WFAA link does not discuss any organs or prostitution.

Other articles suggest he made such threats (perhaps to scare the victim into compliance) but did not actually have such a "plot".

He confessed to the crimes, saying he just needed money

Police say he claimed to be affiliated with a gang [in Honduras].
 
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Your OP is from the other story. However, the WFAA link does not discuss any organs or prostitution.

Other articles suggest he made such threats (perhaps to scare the victim into compliance) but did not actually have such a "plot".

He confessed to the crimes, saying he just needed money

Police say he claimed to be affiliated with a gang [in Honduras].

Death penalty. Period.

You don't get money by kidnapping and selling women.

Death penalty. There's nothing to keep them alive for.... I'm not voting to waste tax payer dollars to imprison these people for life.

We don't want them here and they have no capacity to exist within any civilized society. Death penalty.

They can stay in Guantanamo Bay until their sentence is carried out.
 
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Death penalty. Period.

You don't get money by kidnapping and selling women.

Death penalty. There's nothing to keep them alive for.... I'm not voting to waste tax payer dollars to imprison these people for life.

We don't want them here and they have no capacity to exist within any civilized society. Death penalty.

They can stay in Guantanamo Bay until their sentence is carried out.
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.”?
 
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The bad acts of one person are not representative of his demographic, just as the terrorist acts last week are not representative of all veterans.
I trust your sharing is being shared responsibly--as one crime committed by one individual person, and hope readers are not misled to think otherwise.
 
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The bad acts of one person are not representative of his demographic,
The demographic we are concerned about are illegals. Those that come across the border illegally and commit other crimes that would not have occurred if our border were protected as it should be.
 
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I know people whom you would misidentify as "illegals" who have become NICU nurses, factory managers, entrepreneurs, teachers.
And statistics proving Hispanics commit fewer crimes than the general population show the criminal referenced in the article is the exception, not the rule.
 
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I know people whom you would misidentify as "illegals" who have become NICU nurses, factory managers, entrepreneurs, teachers.
And statistics proving Hispanics commit fewer crimes than the general population show the criminal referenced in the article is the exception, not the rule.
People who have committed a crime and taken jobs from Americans. What exactly are you advocating for?

He may be an exception, but it can't be denied that the crime wouldn't have happened if he wasnt here.

Like I said, what are you advocating for?
 
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People who have committed a crime and taken jobs from Americans. What exactly are you advocating for?

He may be an exception, but it can't be denied that the crime wouldn't have happened if he wasnt here.

Like I said, what are you advocating for?
Although undocumented immigrants are not "refugees," a pretty good case could be made that they came to America fleeing desperate poverty and violence, and that they have much in common with those who were granted refugee status (including the Haitians resettled in Ohio, who did not eat the dogs).

Here are some stories of inspiring Americans who fled the same persecution, violence, and poverty as today's undocumented immigrants. Arriving with nothing, you can see how much good they can do and how much they can accomplish, given a chance.

 
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Like I said, what are you advocating for?

They are advocating 1.) for the slaughter of American citizens and 2.) are demanding we lay down while they kill us.

Not happening. We have Tom Homan.

We are not carpet for left wingers to wipe their dirty feet on.
 
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They are advocating 1.) for the slaughter of American citizens and 2.) are demanding we lay down while they kill us.

Not happening. We have Tom Homan.

We are not carpet for left wingers to wipe their dirty feet on.
You understand that “left-wingers” live in this Nation too, right?
You seem to be implying that left-wingers are fine with being murdered by illegal immigrants so long as it does dirt to right-wingers too.

Please don’t reduce “the other-side” to mindless automatons; I’ll endeavor to do likewise.
 
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You understand that “left-wingers” live in this Nation too, right?
You seem to be implying that left-wingers are fine with being murdered by illegal immigrants so long as it does dirt to right-wingers too.

Please don’t reduce “the other-side” to mindless automatons; I’ll endeavor to do likewise.

Actually I think they are fine with it. They appear suicidal, so we have to protect them from their own poor decision making capabilities as well as protect ourselves from them.

For example, how many gays have to be strapped to chairs and thrown from buildings before liberals realize that extremist Islam isn't anyone's best friend and isn't something we should import here? How many women have to be jailed for being raped? Raped for not having a male escort?

We can go down a list of dangers but when you're the most liberal culture on earth you don't invite in the least liberal of all and/or the most dangerous of all unless you want to die.

It makes liberals exceedingly suicidal, and a danger to themselves and others until they start employing rational thought. I plan on survival myself, and I'll take liberals with me.
 
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Actually I think they are fine with it. They appear suicidal, so we have to protect them from their own poor decision making capabilities as well as protect ourselves from them.

For example, how many gays have to be strapped to chairs and thrown from buildings before liberals realize that extremist Islam isn't anyone's best friend and isn't something we should import here? How many women have to be jailed for being raped? Raped for not having a male escort?

We can go down a list of dangers but when you're the most liberal culture on earth you don't invite in the least liberal of all and/or the most dangerous of all unless you want to die.

It makes liberals exceedingly suicidal, and a danger to themselves and others until they start employing rational thought. I plan on survival myself, and I'll take liberals with me.
It seems to me that you are so blinded by your hatred of Islam that you cannot see how absurd this sounds. There is no interest from any significant number of liberals to import Islamic extremism to the US.
 
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It seems to me that you are so blinded by your hatred of Islam that you cannot see how absurd this sounds. There is no interest from any significant number of liberals to import Islamic extremism to the US.

You do know I'm a Christian convert FROM Islam yes?

Basically, your saying Im blinded by hatred for my own people - which m not, but I do think western society is worth preserving.

It's actually good. We should preserve it. It has a lot of worth, and liberals are trying to flush it all down the toilet.
 
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I hear and read about crime but it is somewhere else and not in my particular world.
However, I talked to a 75 year old woman, an old friend, who has always been very anti-gun.
She lives in a upper middle class neighborhood in California, peaceful residential.
Now she bought a gun! And is going to the gun range, learning to use it.
I asked her why? She said there are many strange people wandering around. There have been daylight assaults, robberies, car jackings, break-ins and homeless drug camps in her area.
I never heard that part of California was a problem area.
These are strange times when a middle class senior retiree is buying guns and learning to use them.
My neighborhood is still fairly peaceful. But then, I would have expected her neighborhood to remain the same.
 
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You do know I'm a Christian convert FROM Islam yes?
I do know that, yes.
Basically, your saying Im blinded by hatred for my own people - which m not,
I'm not saying that you hate the people, just the religion. You're quite vocal about it and the threat that it supposedly poses to America.
and liberals are trying to flush it all down the toilet.
See, this is the ridiculous part. Again, not a real thing. Are there people who are liberal and hate "western" society? Sure. But the existence of individuals who fit a certain mold does not suggest, imply, or otherwise signify the intent of the larger group that they belong to. Much like I would never claim that conservatives are trying to destroy western society, in spite of the fact that there are plenty of conservatives who hate it. "Destroying western society" is not a core tenet of liberalism or conservatism.

I'm not really sure how we got onto this tangent though - the subject of the OP is not Muslim.
 
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I'm not saying that you hate the people, just the religion. You're quite vocal about it and the threat that it supposedly poses to America.

Actually, that's because of my background. I was once married to an Islamic extremist, I know the topic quite well.

I know what's not a danger, and what is.
See, this is the ridiculous part. Again, not a real thing.

If it wasn't a real thing we wouldn't have open borders and zero national security right now.

Encounters with people ON the terrorist watch list is up under the Biden Harris Administration by over 3,000%

We have let in, due to poor vetting, some 100+ individuals on the terrorist watch list in the last couple years. We have also waived in more than 13,000 murderers and 10's of thousands of foreign criminals.

Just because we have problems with some few of our own citizens doesn't mean we should take on the murderers and terrorists of the world and cross our fingers and hope they don't kill us, whom they have zero respect for and a ton of hate towards.

This is suicidal behavior. Your destroying your very way of life.

I live here, and I won't support such idiocy.
 
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Encounters with people ON the terrorist watch list is up under the Biden Harris Administration by over 3,000%
Nice to see the Biden Administration’s interdiction rate going up…but I’m going to guess that this is a “bad thing”, for some reason.
 
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