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ICE Arrests Palestinian Ringleader of Anti-Israel Columbia Protests

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I think Trump has went above...
Nup. Still answering a question that no-one asked.

I just want to know if you think he should obey judicial decisions. Or not.

It can't be that hard for you. You'll contradict Trump whatever your answer is, but that's not your problem. That's his problem
 
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Nup. Still answering a question that no-one asked.

I just want to know if you think he should obey judicial decisions. Or not.

It can't be that hard for you. You'll contradict Trump whatever your answer is, but that's not your problem. That's his problem
I think I did answer your question, you just don’t like the answer which did not fit your gotcha, get Trump narrative. Judges are not a god to be revered they must operate within the confines of the constitution just like everyone else. Some do not and it is just messy trying to deal with that but we will get that fixed. Higher courts are leaning more to Trumps position. The latest 9, O ruling by the supreme court is not against Trump it is a pause until that can be addressed by the court. I believe Tump is complying with that Supreme Court order.
 
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Since when were military planes and pilots subject to any judges anywhere.
They are subject to laws. Judges are here to ensure that they are faithfully executed.

The President is Commander in Chief.
Orders can be illegal. Obeying a clearly unlawful order should also result in a sericemember being subject to a judge.
 
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So a random judge can order the military planes not to attack the Houthis?
In the unlikely event that someone with standing appeals to the court with a convincing argument based on the law, I don't see why not.

But as we know, the Commander in Chief is well within his legal rights to order that Paraguay or Poughkeepsie be nuked.
 
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That example is in no way a threat against the safety and well being of others.
If course it is when tied to an unrest that unlawfully takes over a campus building and holds people there against their will, supporting terrorist organizations by ACTION not just words, etc. When you watch the videos of what occurred, yes it definately was an unsafe environment that he was apart of.
 
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They are subject to laws. Judges are here to ensure that they are faithfully executed.
Judges are not in the military chain of command. Some may think they are but they are not.

Orders can be illegal. Obeying a clearly unlawful order should also result in a sericemember being subject to a judge.
You speak as though judges are the do all be all . Do you know what CO-EQUAL branch means? Judges have certain areas they have legal jurisdiction over and being commander in chief is not one of them. That authority is constitutionally given to the President. Our problem today is we have a few activist judges who do not know their place and they are trying to usurp authority not given them by the constitution.
 
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But as we know, the Commander in Chief is well within his legal rights to order that Paraguay or Poughkeepsie be nuked.
But he can't expel illegal alien terroist criminals??? That makes no sense.
 
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But he can't expel illegal alien terroist criminals??? That makes no sense.
When was the court case saying they were terrorists? Do your truly believe Donald's word is divine?
 
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But he can't expel illegal alien terroist criminals???
Certainly he can, as long as he follows the law. He's not a dictator or omnipotent. He has to faithfully execute the laws.
 
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Judges are not in the military chain of command. Some may think they are but they are not.
They cannot issue orders to the military directly, but they can tell the other branches of government to stop breaking the law. And, in some cases, that may require the Executive branch to modify or rescind its orders to the military.
 
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You speak as though judges are the do all be all .
When a case at law is brought before them, they are, in fact, the deciders. That's the role their branch plays. They do not write the laws. Nor can they summon a case out of thin air, but when a case is brought to them, they sit in judgment.
 
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When a case at law is brought before them, they are, in fact, the deciders. That's the role their branch plays. They do not write the laws. Nor can they summon a case out of thin air, but when a case is brought to them, they sit in judgment.
Importantly, the US courts (including the Supreme Court) are not "constitutional courts" like are found in some other systems where all rules are automatically reviewed for legality. It is the first responsibility of the Congress to ensure that the laws they write are constitutional and the second responsibility of the Executive to ensure that the law (including the Constitution) is faithfully executed.
 
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When was the court case saying they were terrorists? Do your truly believe Donald's word is divine?
The president has the authority to designate who or what is a terrorist organization, and he did in this case. The courts have no jurisdiction on that.
 
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They cannot issue orders to the military directly, but they can tell the other branches of government to stop breaking the law. And, in some cases, that may require the Executive branch to modify or rescind its orders to the military.
Can you site what statute was broken here?
 
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The president has the authority to designate who or what is a terrorist organization, and he did in this case. The courts have no jurisdiction on that.
Yes they do. Unless you believe Donald is the Fuhrer.
 
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Can you site what statute was broken here?
The judge found probable cause that the government was violating the due process rights of migrants by deporting them to El Salvador without a hearing, so he ordered a temporary halt on all deportation flights.
 
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The judge found probable cause that the government was violating the due process rights of migrants by deporting them to El Salvador without a hearing, so he ordered a temporary halt on all deportation flights.
Can you site the statute that gives designated terrorist illegal aliens the same due process rights as citizens!
 
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